/tg/Station 13

If you have any feedback on the new changes to audio please post them here.

For anyone who hasnt really noticed; the changes are basically:
You hear sound from almost 3 times as far (barring some), and sound falloff was completely re-done

This has been just fantastic. Another great addition floydobuddy!

Is this the change that allowed me to hear carp scrolling being used from multiple rooms across, or hearing nukies try to stealth kill me as AI? It's garbage and has killed off any subtlety. Any attempt at stealth is immediately subverted by being heard by someone 3 rooms away from you. Shit sucks man

pugie wrote:Is this the change that allowed me to hear carp scrolling being used from multiple rooms across, or hearing nukies try to stealth kill me as AI? It's garbage and has killed off any subtlety. Any attempt at stealth is immediately subverted by being heard by someone 3 rooms away from you. Shit sucks man

Walking makes no footstep sound

I love it.

For one, it makes the station feel more alive. I'm honestly shocked about how much activity happens on the station. The station used to always feel so vast and underpopulated, even on fullpop. Now when the station is really empty, you *feel* it.

As for stealth, I think it's a major improvement. In the past, murders and violence were basically silent unless you were in the same room. Now it's more dynamic. Now, people will hear sound of a gunshot or a scream they can investigate. Detectives can interview people nearby who heard a struggle but didn't witness the murder. I think that this increased detection radius might allow for some buffs to strengthen noisier weapons. After all, a gun might crit someone in a shot or two, but you'll need to act fast before curious crewmembers arrive on-scene.

I think overall it makes everything too noisy and too busy and being able to adjust the volume of it or a toggle would be greatly appreciated.

Aside from the reverb which is sometimes excessive and cuts off abruptly when you move between sound environments I'd forgotten these audio changes were made. Which I guess makes them natural and unobtrusive. I'm not discounting the possibility of an effect on whatever stealth this game has though where light goes through walls and you have a full 360 degree field of view while being shortsighted enough to qualify as legally blind.

Walking makes no footstep sound

I know this but what does this have to do with moving in sat, this isn't bar. I don't just run around in sat dreaming about drinking irl i want to kill ai.

pugie wrote:

trollbreeder wrote:Walking makes no footstep sound

I know this but what does this have to do with moving in sat, this isn't bar. I don't just run around in sat dreaming about drinking irl i want to kill ai.

I don't think you understood correctly. You press the "run" button on your UI to change it to "walk"
Then while walking you make no footstep sounds, so you can quietly get to the AI's weak point to murder it, attempting to make no other sounds (hardsuit, backpack, turrets, etc)

I don't think you understand how literally impossible it is to kill ai without any tools other than walk button.

Audio changes are good other than ai hearing everything happening in a 100m radius, every windoor opening, grenade primed, etc.

pugie wrote:I don't think you understand how literally impossible it is to kill ai without any tools other than walk button.

Audio chamges are good other than ai hearing everything happening in a 100m radius, every windoor opening, grenade primed, etc.

If you're using grenades you might as well cross stealth out as an option

trollbreeder wrote:

pugie wrote:I don't think you understand how literally impossible it is to kill ai without any tools other than walk button.

Audio chamges are good other than ai hearing everything happening in a 100m radius, every windoor opening, grenade primed, etc.

If you're using grenades you might as well cross stealth out as an option

You're missing the point I'm making again. Also merry christmas

pugie wrote:

trollbreeder wrote:

pugie wrote:I don't think you understand how literally impossible it is to kill ai without any tools other than walk button.

Audio chamges are good other than ai hearing everything happening in a 100m radius, every windoor opening, grenade primed, etc.

If you're using grenades you might as well cross stealth out as an option

You're missing the point I'm making again. Also merry christmas

Then what is the point

It's pretty simple. Any sound in a gorillion square meter radius can be heard, so ai just returns to core and says 'NUKIES'

This isn't even a complaint made from a nuke op perspective. I am AI and I hear literally ANYTHING happening on my sat every windoor opening, airlock, screwdrivering of an airlock. Don't latch onto my example of grenades please.

i like hearing clown shoes honk down the halls, i dislike how half the time i'm in a 3x2 room and it echoes like i'm in an aircraft hangar.

Walls should really be better at blocking sound imo. Also that weird thing when you open a door and enter a new sound environment should be changed, it creates really intense echos for a second.

It'd be epic if there were a lot of modifiers for hearing (say, helmets would reduce your range, and AIs can't hear as far as most) but that also sounds really hard to do. If only!

confused rock wrote:It'd be epic if there were a lot of modifiers for hearing (say, helmets would reduce your range, and AIs can't hear as far as most) but that also sounds really hard to do. If only!

not really hard to do actually, might be a fun pr to do in the future