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Remove Ants 2022
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:00 am
by Pandarsenic
- Without GoonStation's full Ant Chem support, you can't do anything with ants and ants can't do anything with you
- Nobody(?) wants to take charge of making them Do Something in a way that doesn't step on GoonChem's toes
- Ants are a nuisance, but not (or barely) a meaningful one
- They have no real interactable RP implication (and it's unrealistic that food on the station rots and gets swarmed by ants so quickly anyway)
- You can still have food rot away if you think it's really important to not leave food items on the floor?
- It turns maintenance mice into annoying piles when they become a food item on the floor by chewing a wire
- Nobody(?) has any positive ants-related experiences
We tried, it didn't work, nothing wrong with that but let's call it a day on ants.
Re: Remove Ants 2022
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:02 am
by Shadowflame909
Antz copied a bugs life
Re: Remove Ants 2022
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:03 pm
by oranges
don't leave out food and you wont get ants bro, simple as
Re: Remove Ants 2022
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:03 pm
by Farquaar
oranges wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:03 pm
don't leave out food and you wont get ants bro, simple as
Re: Remove Ants 2022
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:36 pm
by Mothblocks
i asked for the mouse thing to be fixed like the days after it was merged but then didn't do anything
Re: Remove Ants 2022
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:49 pm
by cacogen
I wish you could cover food. Like, wrapping paper but it's just a plastic wrap overlay. Or actually zip lock bags like evidence bags might look better. Would make more sense than ants that can't climb.
Food should take longer to decompose, too. And temperature should affect decomposure rates. The kitchen has a cold room that sets off the atmos alarm every time the door is opened but as far as I'm aware that's just fluff that probably only affects lizard cooks.
Decomposure should be an overlay when there aren't proper sprites, too. Creating piles of burnt messes looks cheap and bad. Certain things should be blacklisted from becoming piles of shit to begin with.
Instead of ants' nests being caltrops that play a bite sound and cause damage every time you step on them, they should apply the ant reagent like when someone throws it on you if you stand on them for a couple of seconds. A delay and applying reagents could probably be worked into the caltrop component.
Re: Remove Ants 2022
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:55 pm
by Farquaar
cacogen wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:49 pm
Instead of ants' nests being caltrops that play a bite sound and cause damage every time you step on them, they should apply the ant reagent like when someone throws it on you if you stand on them for a couple of seconds. A delay and applying reagents could probably be worked into the caltrop component.
This is a good idea. It ought to take a few seconds for the creepy crawlies to climb aboard your pantleg.
Re: Remove Ants 2022
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:28 pm
by oranges
seems reasonable, the food stuff is probably fine too, chilling food would be cool, but you should get ab ad moodlet if you eat frozen food.
Re: Remove Ants 2022
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:16 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
counterpoint the fuck: my fucking post about eating ants like a gorilla FUCK YOU just LET ME EAT ANTS GOD DAMN IT i want to return to aepe life
Re: Remove Ants 2022
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:38 pm
by Mothblocks
someone sprite ant eaters
Re: Remove Ants 2022
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:44 pm
by GamerAndYeahMick
Mothblocks wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:38 pm
someone sprite ant eaters
I have desired this for a long time...
Re: Remove Ants 2022
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:37 pm
by Pandarsenic
If someone will actually take responsibility for making ants do something other than be shitty caltrops until you scoop them up and throw them at a wall to kill them and STOP EATING MICE that's fine too
Otherwise please remove
Either outcome is good. Great, even.
Re: Remove Ants 2022
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:30 am
by TheFinalPotato
cacogen wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:49 pm
The kitchen has a cold room that sets off the atmos alarm every time the door is opened but as far as I'm aware that's just fluff that probably only affects lizard cooks.
This is honestly mostly a nitpick, but the cold room actually being cold is a metastation only (Maybe another one?) thing. No idea why.
Re: Remove Ants 2022
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:45 am
by Armhulen
TheFinalPotato wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:30 am
cacogen wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:49 pm
The kitchen has a cold room that sets off the atmos alarm every time the door is opened but as far as I'm aware that's just fluff that probably only affects lizard cooks.
This is honestly mostly a nitpick, but the cold room actually being cold is a metastation only (Maybe another one?) thing. No idea why.
Should be all stations and there should be benefits to cold food storage
Re: Remove Ants 2022
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:49 am
by RaveRadbury
Should be all stations to bully lizard cooks.
Re: Remove Ants 2022
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:51 am
by NecromancerAnne
Mothblocks wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:36 pm
i asked for the mouse thing to be fixed like the days after it was merged but then didn't do anything
It's a line change at this point. I didn't add it myself because I already had folk on my case about cytology balance.
Re: Remove Ants 2022
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:06 pm
by cacogen
Armhulen wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:45 am
TheFinalPotato wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:30 am
cacogen wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:49 pm
The kitchen has a cold room that sets off the atmos alarm every time the door is opened but as far as I'm aware that's just fluff that probably only affects lizard cooks.
This is honestly mostly a nitpick, but the cold room actually being cold is a metastation only (Maybe another one?) thing. No idea why.
Should be all stations and there should be benefits to cold food storage
It's definitely on DeltaStation and Ice Box Station because I've done my best as an atmospheric technician (and once as an AI) to try to keep the room below the threshold to stop it triggering the air alarm and it's either been too cold or it hasn't worked without holofans which don't look very good in that tiny space plus you may need them before research unlocks more projectors.
I agree though, cold should affect the rate at which food degrades and when frozen it shouldn't degrade at all. Like Rimworld. It's the sort of feature I've wanted since noticing fridge closets and freezer crates in the game and wondering why they're even there if they don't do anything.
Re: Remove Ants 2022
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 4:48 pm
by Kendrickorium
Ive seen pax make ant bombs and ant smoke machines
whats the problem
Re: Remove Ants 2022
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:38 pm
by BrianBackslide
I have a kill tally of lone ops I've killed with ants. They're good if you're evil enough.