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Detomatix Check-In

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:06 pm
by Pandarsenic
The Nuke Ops Thread has reminded me that the Detomatix Cartridge was reworked https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/62494a full season ago.

I honestly want to ask:

Has anyone bought a Detomatix or witnessed a PDA bombing since then?

Re: Detomatix Check-In

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:10 pm
by Shadowflame909
Nope.

Re: Detomatix Check-In

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:17 pm
by oranges
It has been purchased in 5623 rounds since then, most recently on the 18th.

Showing rows 0 - 99 (5623 total, Query took 1.7569 seconds.) [datetime: 2022-04-18 20:10:32... - 2022-02-25 07:02:09...]
SELECT * FROM `feedback` WHERE key_name = "traitor_uplink_items_bought" AND json LIKE "%Detomatix PDA Cartridge%" AND datetime > DATE(2021-11-14) ORDER BY `datetime` DESC

Re: Detomatix Check-In

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:40 pm
by BrianBackslide
I bought it a few times. It's great as a Mime as you can PDA emojis AND text as someone else to really fuck with them.
Also using it to impersonate people or to PDA bomb someone by pretending you're deaf.

I think the TC cost should be a little lower since it's a one and done kind of thing. Once it's known, the PDA server tends to get shut off.

Re: Detomatix Check-In

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:00 pm
by CDranzer
oranges wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:17 pm It has been purchased in 5623 rounds since then, most recently on the 18th.

Showing rows 0 - 99 (5623 total, Query took 1.7569 seconds.) [datetime: 2022-04-18 20:10:32... - 2022-02-25 07:02:09...]
SELECT * FROM `feedback` WHERE key_name = "traitor_uplink_items_bought" AND json LIKE "%Detomatix PDA Cartridge%" AND datetime > DATE(2021-11-14) ORDER BY `datetime` DESC
You mean to tell us that an obscure sabotage item has been purchased in 35 rounds a day, every day, for the last 5 months?

Re: Detomatix Check-In

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:05 pm
by oranges
The average round is about 90 minutes, there are 5 servers talking to the database, that's about 96 rounds a day, so 35 of those rounds having a detomatix purchased (low tc item) seems reasonable to me at a quick glance?

Re: Detomatix Check-In

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:39 pm
by Pandarsenic
Marathon Campbell, who regularly has 9-hour rounds with 4 players on at a time, is an outlier and should not be counted.

Re: Detomatix Check-In

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:57 pm
by Nabski
That doesn't feel right from bagil either. I know there's long stretches of time where I'll be the only traitor on slow long rounds. 1/3 of it's rounds having a detomax purchased seems absolutely wrong.

Is this some commonly used sybil or MRP item? To europeans love to send mailbombs?

Re: Detomatix Check-In

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:11 pm
by Mothblocks
I'm curious about the usage over time now and will now dedicate all of today to making a fuck huge graph of every uplink items purchase rate since Biddle traitors

Re: Detomatix Check-In

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:32 pm
by oranges
Pandarsenic wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:39 pm Marathon Campbell, who regularly has 9-hour rounds with 4 players on at a time, is an outlier and should not be counted.
It's a pie in the sky estimate, I'm not going to spend more time on this than I already have, if you think the SQL query is wrong, point out the issue, if you think the feedback recording is broken, point out that issue?

wtf more do you want from me.

Re: Detomatix Check-In

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:43 pm
by Pandarsenic
oranges wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:32 pm
Pandarsenic wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:39 pm Marathon Campbell, who regularly has 9-hour rounds with 4 players on at a time, is an outlier and should not be counted.
It's a pie in the sky estimate, I'm not going to spend more time on this than I already have, if you think the SQL query is wrong, point out the issue, if you think the feedback recording is broken, point out that issue?

wtf more do you want from me.
:( I'm just making fun of Campbell's round lengths

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Re: Detomatix Check-In

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:17 pm
by oranges
sorry, I got defensive

Re: Detomatix Check-In

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:24 am
by Pandarsenic
oranges wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:17 pm sorry, I got defensive
♥ It's okay!

Re: Detomatix Check-In

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:08 am
by Mothblocks
Plotly is doing some really annoying stuff to me so the brand new moth.fans chart is delayed

Re: Detomatix Check-In

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:21 am
by PKPenguin321
oranges wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:32 pm
Pandarsenic wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:39 pm Marathon Campbell, who regularly has 9-hour rounds with 4 players on at a time, is an outlier and should not be counted.
It's a pie in the sky estimate, I'm not going to spend more time on this than I already have, if you think the SQL query is wrong, point out the issue, if you think the feedback recording is broken, point out that issue?

wtf more do you want from me.
i want to see how many explosions resulted from the purchase of a detomatix if that's possible, moreso out of curiosity than anything

Re: Detomatix Check-In

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:56 am
by cacogen
Mothblocks wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:11 pm I'm curious about the usage over time now and will now dedicate all of today to making a fuck huge graph of every uplink items purchase rate since Biddle traitors
can't wait tbh (to be honest)

Re: Detomatix Check-In

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:40 pm
by oranges
PKPenguin321 wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:21 am
oranges wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:32 pm
Pandarsenic wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:39 pm Marathon Campbell, who regularly has 9-hour rounds with 4 players on at a time, is an outlier and should not be counted.
It's a pie in the sky estimate, I'm not going to spend more time on this than I already have, if you think the SQL query is wrong, point out the issue, if you think the feedback recording is broken, point out that issue?

wtf more do you want from me.
i want to see how many explosions resulted from the purchase of a detomatix if that's possible, moreso out of curiosity than anything
You're probably better off asking bobbah for this, since it's more likely to be in scrubby's logs

Re: Detomatix Check-In

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:40 am
by Annihilite111
Entirely anecdotal, i know, but i have gotten PDA bombed exactly once since the change, and that was within a week of it being merged. I still think this is better than "turn your messaging off roundstart or gg no re 20 second instant stun into being decapped by an esword", which wasn't any fun at all.

Re: Detomatix Check-In

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 8:12 pm
by BrianBackslide
Come to think of it, I don't think the Detomatix even works now that PDAs are tablets.

Tablets that are off can receive messages, but can't reply to them. Does that work when clicking Detomatix virus messages? Will you still boom even if your tablet is off? I don't have means to test it, but I'm going to assume not.