Why were atmospherics berets removed?

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Why were atmospherics berets removed?

Post by Super Aggro Crag » #662352

Atmospherics techs do not get any drip in their atmosdrobe. Some may say this is to cut "bloat." Yet engineers have an alternate jumpsuit, hard hats, and berets. Atmos techs get nothing. Security has like 4 outfit varieties in their autodrobe. Please give Atmos Techs some headwear that isn't the firefighter helmet.
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Re: Why were atmospherics berets removed?

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Atmos tech needs a hat like this, but with 2 O2 tanks instead.
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Re: Why were atmospherics berets removed?

Post by Super Aggro Crag » #662364

Helios wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:41 pm Image
Atmos tech needs a hat like this, but with 2 O2 tanks instead.
id wear it in a heartbeat
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Re: Why were atmospherics berets removed?

Post by Farquaar » #662367

Do you have any ideas that are atmos tech themed?
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Re: Why were atmospherics berets removed?

Post by Super Aggro Crag » #662368

Farquaar wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:28 am Do you have any ideas that are atmos tech themed?
helios has done me a great service with the air-hat
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Re: Why were atmospherics berets removed?

Post by Helios » #662409

If it were to have a gameplay effect, putting one tank in would have you breath through one tank, and having 2 tanks would allow you to breath through both.
This would also have gameplay implications for Atmos techs, as it would allow them to replace the contents of those standard emergency 02 airtanks with something else, be it one tank of N02 and one tank of plasma, or two tanks of superheated plasma
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Re: Why were atmospherics berets removed?

Post by sinfulbliss » #662453

I agree strongly. The reasoning was that colored berets are bloat since GAGs allow for multicolored berets. Except... GAG berets weren't added to the atmos vendor to replace them! So all this does is remove one of the few alternate uniform items atmos tekkies got to have.
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Re: Why were atmospherics berets removed?

Post by Super Aggro Crag » #662483

sinfulbliss wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 2:36 am I agree strongly. The reasoning was that colored berets are bloat since GAGs allow for multicolored berets. Except... GAG berets weren't added to the atmos vendor to replace them! So all this does it remove one of the few alternate uniform items atmos tekkies got to have.
meanwhile engies have a beret
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Re: Why were atmospherics berets removed?

Post by Farquaar » #662488

Super Aggro Crag wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:48 ammeanwhile engies have a beret
I don't think engies should have a beret
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Re: Why were atmospherics berets removed?

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Farquaar wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:48 am
Super Aggro Crag wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:48 ammeanwhile engies have a beret
I don't think engies should have a beret
Who should have berets
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Re: Why were atmospherics berets removed?

Post by Farquaar » #662492

Super Aggro Crag wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:23 am
Farquaar wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:48 am
Super Aggro Crag wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:48 ammeanwhile engies have a beret
I don't think engies should have a beret
Who should have berets
Security and mimes.
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Post by InfiniteGalaxies » #662494

Why doesnt atmos have a firefighter hat yet?
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Post by Super Aggro Crag » #662543

InfiniteGalaxies wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:59 am Why doesnt atmos have a firefighter hat yet?
they do its in the lockers

also farquaar why does security need berets? they have ballcaps and helmets already.
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Re: Why were atmospherics berets removed?

Post by sinfulbliss » #662574

Why are berets such a rare fuckin commodity that we have to decide who gets them and who doesn’t

Dawg just let people have their god damn berets!!
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Re: Why were atmospherics berets removed?

Post by Farquaar » #662586

Super Aggro Crag wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:06 pm
InfiniteGalaxies wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:59 am Why doesnt atmos have a firefighter hat yet?
they do its in the lockers

also farquaar why does security need berets? they have ballcaps and helmets already.
Berets are a military uniform thing. And a French artist thing. Think of as many science hats or engineering hats as you want, but they have to make sense. There's no such thing IRL as a "science beret"
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Re: Why were atmospherics berets removed?

Post by Helios » #662588

So why does Research Director get a beret?
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Post by bastardblaster » #662590

Helios wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:52 pm So why does Research Director get a beret?
the RD is a smug asshole larper
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Re: Why were atmospherics berets removed?

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Farquaar wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:43 pm
Super Aggro Crag wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:06 pm
InfiniteGalaxies wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:59 am Why doesnt atmos have a firefighter hat yet?
they do its in the lockers

also farquaar why does security need berets? they have ballcaps and helmets already.
Berets are a military uniform thing. And a French artist thing. Think of as many science hats or engineering hats as you want, but they have to make sense. There's no such thing IRL as a "science beret"
medbay has berets too
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Re: Why were atmospherics berets removed?

Post by Rageguy505 » #662616

Berets are pretty lame, baseball caps fit every job
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Re: Why were atmospherics berets removed?

Post by Super Aggro Crag » #662619

i just want a head gear of some time for atmos techs. if it has utility that'd be cool.
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Re: Why were atmospherics berets removed?

Post by RedBaronFlyer » #662620

reposting my comment that I made on the github pr that removed atmos berets:
I'm kinda eh on berets but I'd definitely love to see more clothing options for each job

Cargo could get hard hats, hazard vests, workboots, earmuffs, and/or full-body boilersuit style jumpsuits like today's dock workers wear

Botany could get more farming-related hats and overalls. IIRC they currently get two overalls, and one of the overalls doesn't have an additional pocket while the other does, making the former pointless to wear outside of style

Bartender could have additional fancy clothing items that have been added to the clothing vendors in the dorms over the years.

I can't really think of other jobs clothing, but hopefully, the point comes across.
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Re: Why were atmospherics berets removed?

Post by Farquaar » #662626

Super Aggro Crag wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:54 pm
Farquaar wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:43 pm
Super Aggro Crag wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:06 pm
InfiniteGalaxies wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:59 am Why doesnt atmos have a firefighter hat yet?
they do its in the lockers

also farquaar why does security need berets? they have ballcaps and helmets already.
Berets are a military uniform thing. And a French artist thing. Think of as many science hats or engineering hats as you want, but they have to make sense. There's no such thing IRL as a "science beret"
medbay has berets too
They shouldn't have berets either.
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Re: Why were atmospherics berets removed?

Post by Super Aggro Crag » #662632

Farquaar wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:36 am
Super Aggro Crag wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:54 pm
Farquaar wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:43 pm
Super Aggro Crag wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:06 pm
InfiniteGalaxies wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:59 am Why doesnt atmos have a firefighter hat yet?
they do its in the lockers

also farquaar why does security need berets? they have ballcaps and helmets already.
Berets are a military uniform thing. And a French artist thing. Think of as many science hats or engineering hats as you want, but they have to make sense. There's no such thing IRL as a "science beret"
medbay has berets too
They shouldn't have berets either.
they should get a wide brimmed hat like the plague doctors wear
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Post by FantasticFwoosh » #680311

Farquaar wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:43 pm Berets are a military uniform thing. And a French artist thing. Think of as many science hats or engineering hats as you want, but they have to make sense. There's no such thing IRL as a "science beret"
You can literally make a beret out of cloth and either crayon stain it or spraypaint it yellow, stop hoarding the berets and just give it to players.

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Post by Farquaar » #680346

FantasticFwoosh wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:13 pm
Farquaar wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:43 pm Berets are a military uniform thing. And a French artist thing. Think of as many science hats or engineering hats as you want, but they have to make sense. There's no such thing IRL as a "science beret"
You can literally make a beret out of cloth and either crayon stain it or spraypaint it yellow, stop hoarding the berets and just give it to players.
Perfect. So there's no need for a dedicated "atmos" or "science" beret since people who want a coloured beret can find one in the autodrobe.
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Post by TheFinalPotato » #680354

quit necroing
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TheFinalPotato wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:57 pm quit necroing
To be fair, the Coding Feedback subforum is already pretty slow. It's not like Fwoosh had to go into the backpages to find threads from January.
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Post by Indie-ana Jones » #680370

Why does anyone need a baseball cap on a space station far away from our own galaxy? There's no indication that a sun exists anywhere nearby.
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Farquaar wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:06 pm
TheFinalPotato wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:57 pm quit necroing
To be fair, the Coding Feedback subforum is already pretty slow. It's not like Fwoosh had to go into the backpages to find threads from January.
this forum being a honeypot doesn't mean it's nice to drag dirt around it, bees still gotta eat
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Indie-ana Jones wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:23 pm Why does anyone need a baseball cap on a space station far away from our own galaxy? There's no indication that a sun exists anywhere nearby.
Baseball remains popular as ever in the far-distance spess future, especially with holodeck technology.

The only caveat with colored crayon, is that with engineering needing to shower regularly to expel traces of radiation it's very easy to have the colors run, unless of course they push them old-school through the suit-decontaminators.

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Post by factoryman942 » #680487

Indie-ana Jones wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:23 pm Why does anyone need a baseball cap on a space station far away from our own galaxy? There's no indication that a sun exists anywhere nearby.
the station literally has solar panels
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sinfulbliss wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:48 pm Why are berets such a rare fuckin commodity that we have to decide who gets them and who doesn’t

Dawg just let people have their god damn berets!!
You're right. More berets
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/74820
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Armhulen wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:34 am
sinfulbliss wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:48 pm Why are berets such a rare fuckin commodity that we have to decide who gets them and who doesn’t

Dawg just let people have their god damn berets!!
You're right. More berets
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/74820
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