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Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning it

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 4:28 pm
by Bombadil
I'm noticing a trend of total asshole clowns deconstructing the machine with screwdriver and a crowbar to steal diamond or plasma to be griefing assholes. It's getting annoying as shit

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:02 pm
by Jeb
Put it behind a windoor "delivery area" and have a console on the wall that actually spawns the items.

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:15 pm
by DemonFiren
I guess then there's no further point in keeping the ore redemption circuit board around?

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:00 pm
by phil235
A way to mitigate the griefing would be to have the crowbar deconstruction step take time.

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:06 pm
by Not-Dorsidarf
Give caro a button that electrifies the machine, shocking anyone trying to steal it

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:21 pm
by Scott
A wall terminal linked to the machine that will let you eject materials. Machine is then placed fully inside Cargo and the minerals will be carried out on a belt.

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:04 pm
by Incomptinence
Decon it yourself then move it to mining. Ergo put it in a retarded place anyway.

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:15 am
by lumipharon
Easiest solution tends to be the best.

But a windoor infront of it.

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:54 am
by DemonFiren
A reinforced windoor, please, so bashing it down takes a little longer.

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:25 am
by Jeb
I'm quite fond of the electrocute button.

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:47 pm
by ThatSlyFox
It should be placed in cargo so the cargo techs can ship the materials out. Science having direct access to it is dumb. Props to the clown for being creative.

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:52 pm
by Steelpoint
ThatSlyFox wrote:It should be placed in cargo so the cargo techs can ship the materials out. Science having direct access to it is dumb. Props to the clown for being creative.
The entire reason why the machine exists was to give Science direct, and easy, access to minerals.

I think the simplest solution is the best, placing a windoor infront of the machine should do the trick.

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 9:54 pm
by Incomptinence
It ain't direct and easy for science they walk across the entire station to get to it almost.

Mailing it to them sending a mule with it having the miner deliver it in person all more convenient for the scientist.

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:04 pm
by lumipharon
that's implying cargo is being helpful - they aren't always, and they don't always even exist.

With the current system, most miners process the ore and bring it to science themselves, but the scientists (and other jobs that have access) can still access it under their own power, instead of being purely reliant on others just to get the already mined minerals.

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:18 pm
by Alex Crimson
Scott wrote:A wall terminal linked to the machine that will let you eject materials. Machine is then placed fully inside Cargo and the minerals will be carried out on a belt.
This seems like the best solution, no?

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:40 pm
by Not-Dorsidarf
Incomptinence wrote:It ain't direct and easy for science they walk across the entire station to get to it almost.

Mailing it to them sending a mule with it having the miner deliver it in person all more convenient for the scientist.
It's in cargo to entice scientists out of their doom bunker before they're packing enough heat to cause a shuttle call.

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:55 pm
by Incomptinence
If the mean streets are dangerous enough for that to matter then the shuttle has a high probability of already being called.

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:02 am
by Jeb
Wouldn't it be neat if we could incorporate the usage of the requests console on the wall? Have the console link directly to cargo, science places an order. If cargonia approves the order, the redemption machine automatically spits out the smelted materials in a wrapped crate with a destination tag set for the department that requested it. Conveyor belt to take it to disposals to be mailed out.

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:29 am
by Bombadil
Jeb wrote:Wouldn't it be neat if we could incorporate the usage of the requests console on the wall? Have the console link directly to cargo, science places an order. If cargonia approves the order, the redemption machine automatically spits out the smelted materials in a wrapped crate with a destination tag set for the department that requested it. Conveyor belt to take it to disposals to be mailed out.
Sounds like the best option imo.

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:36 am
by Timbrewolf
If you see a clown start to do this

Take a crowbar and deconstruct the clown.

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:40 am
by Allohsnackbar
An0n3 wrote:If you see a clown start to do this

Take a crowbar and deconstruct the clown.
MFW your recommending an item that only does 5 brute.
#hostisunrobust

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:51 am
by Timbrewolf
Allohsnackbar wrote:
An0n3 wrote:If you see a clown start to do this

Take a crowbar and deconstruct the clown.
MFW your recommending an item that only does 5 brute.
#hostisunrobust
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Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:53 am
by Remie Richards
isnt the joke going over your own head there?

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:31 am
by omnitricks
Cargo has no access to the ore redemption machine. So don't blame us cargonians for not delivering ore to science, or giving two fucks that someone is stealing the ore. Why the hell is scientists coming to our department and using our things anyway? Because they need the stuff? No, thats our job.

Frankly I wouldn't mind delivering the swag to science as a cargonian, personally if I have to because it will give me an excuse to ask/extort/blackmail the goods from them.

If you really want to fix the problem, give us cargonians access to the redemption machine. :)

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:34 pm
by DemonFiren
Remie Richards wrote:isnt the joke going over your own head there?
It is. Also, ew, Skyrim on console.

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:08 am
by Drynwyn
An0n3 wrote:If you see a clown start to do this

Take a crowbar and deconstruct the clown.
*validboner intensifies*

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:58 pm
by Gun Hog
omnitricks wrote:Cargo has no access to the ore redemption machine. So don't blame us cargonians for not delivering ore to science, or giving two fucks that someone is stealing the ore. Why the hell is scientists coming to our department and using our things anyway? Because they need the stuff? No, thats our job.

Frankly I wouldn't mind delivering the swag to science as a cargonian, personally if I have to because it will give me an excuse to ask/extort/blackmail the goods from them.

If you really want to fix the problem, give us cargonians access to the redemption machine. :)
I will see what I could do about this...
EDIT: Ask, and you shall receive! https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/8860

Re: Ore Redemption Machine: How to stop thefts by deconning

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:37 am
by iyaerP
HALLELUGER!