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new soup does not work

Post by Super Aggro Crag » #672962

i try to make tomato soup and i get blasted in the face with tear gas foam rendering me blind for the rest of the shift.

thank you for removing another thing i enjoyed from the game in the name of making a job more complex so that 90 percent of the people playing will continue to just deep fry shoes and boil eggs
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Re: new soup does not work

Post by Armhulen » #672963

Let me seriously ask you: do you really hate soups?

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I mean come on they're fucking awesome
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Re: new soup does not work

Post by Super Aggro Crag » #672965

i fucking love soup it was my favorite thing to make as chef

now whe ni try to make soup it sprays me in the face with teargas blinding me the entire shift

if it doesn't do that, it fills the bowl with 92 percent unknown reagent and 1 percent delicious soup

its fucking stupid
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Post by mrmelbert » #672966

Did your soup boil over? It only spits out foam if you fill the pot all the way. What did you put in your tomato soup?
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Re: new soup does not work

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mrmelbert wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 1:53 am Did your soup boil over? It only spits out foam if you fill the pot all the way. What did you put in your tomato soup?
Ingredients

Tomato

Water

what I got after it boiled

Tomato Juice
Tomato Soup
Protein
Nutriment
Tear Juice

perhaps it spawning tomato juice protein nutriment and tear juice is what caused the overflow
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Re: new soup does not work

Post by mrmelbert » #672973

Botany might've poisoned your Tomatos, that recipe shouldn't have resulted in Tear Juice under normal circumstances.
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Re: new soup does not work

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mrmelbert wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 2:41 am Botany might've poisoned your Tomatos, that recipe shouldn't have resulted in Tear Juice under normal circumstances.
How can you hate the new soups when a sentence such as this is possible
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Re: new soup does not work

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mrmelbert wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 2:41 am Botany might've poisoned your Tomatos, that recipe shouldn't have resulted in Tear Juice under normal circumstances.
do you mean to tell me that I now have to babysit the botanists to make sure they don't grow my onions close to my tomatoes? i just want to make french onion soup and tomato soup and eggplant parmigiana...
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Re: new soup does not work

Post by mrmelbert » #672999

Well you always had to do that.
I can however tweak the numbers to make it less obvious. The botanists must have REALLY messed with those tomatos if you got that result.
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Re: new soup does not work

Post by BrianBackslide » #673054

Some botanists, particularly new ones, don't understand pollination because it's not conveyed AT ALL ingame. Tomatoes in particular start with enough instability to pollinate chem traits, so they probably got polluted with tear juice. That being said, tear juice doesn't do anything when ingested, so... Don't stand in the spillover foam?
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Post by Super Aggro Crag » #673227

mrmelbert wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 4:57 am Well you always had to do that.
I can however tweak the numbers to make it less obvious. The botanists must have REALLY messed with those tomatos if you got that result.
it was round start, the first things they done did grow me, and i was getting about 80 units of tear juice left in the soup AFT ER t he overflow
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this was the funniest op i have read in a long time
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Post by Fatal » #675401

Tomatoes apparently have capsaicin in them by default, this is probably what happened here, would be nice if that could be removed because it also fucks over (although not entirely) making tomato ketchup from grinding them

Also I ate a big tomato and got 3rd degree burns on all 6 parts of my body and went into crit

Not sure that's intended
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Post by BrianBackslide » #677433

Tomatoes absolutely do not have capsaicin in them naturally.

They do, however, start at a high enough natural instability (20) to receive chem traits. More than likely, they were planted next to Chilis which also have a high natural instability (30) so the capsaicin pollinated over since the Tomatoes wouldn't average down below the pollination threshold.

In other words, whoever grew the Tomatoes did a dumb and planted them next to the Chilis without a stabilizing plant in between. A 100 potency Tomato would have ~20 capsaicin, which would heat you enough to cause those burns.
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Post by Jacquerel » #677473

maybe they did it on purpose because they enjoy a spicier tomato in their meals
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Post by Shadowflame909 » #677559

Someone should make a guide not to harm the chef by cross pollination or else botany is going to get arrested or worse
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Post by Armhulen » #677692

you will drink the capcasin soup and you will say thank you chef
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Post by FantasticFwoosh » #680306

Super Aggro Crag wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 3:22 am
mrmelbert wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 2:41 am Botany might've poisoned your Tomatos, that recipe shouldn't have resulted in Tear Juice under normal circumstances.
do you mean to tell me that I now have to babysit the botanists to make sure they don't grow my onions close to my tomatoes? i just want to make french onion soup and tomato soup and eggplant parmigiana...
Botany is generally awful since they changed it over, you'll get used to this happening until they wise up, really sorry for your loss of delicious soup. Just use the public garden instead with the real proper knowledge of how to grow your plants by spacing them out and using glass dividers, because its not worth exasperating yourself backseat-driver teaching every new botany player for the sake of your own job role.

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Post by Not-Dorsidarf » #680788

Ive never heard anything about cross pollinating unstable plants, that sounds really annoying. Botany trays should start with glass dividers as a mapping QOL to prevent invisible unintuitive food contamination
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Post by Jacquerel » #680831

As a result of this thread plants now have a visual indicator for when they are cross-pollinating
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Post by FantasticFwoosh » #680855

Jacquerel wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:00 pm As a result of this thread plants now have a visual indicator for when they are cross-pollinating
Since this was merged, people are catching on that plants are doing something (if you point it out and still chastise them a little for not making important stable plant copies) but the gap of people you can still meet that do not understand the mechanic entering botany as a novice or who literally want quick-foodstuffs without consideration are still prone to making the same mistakes.

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Post by BrianBackslide » #681284

Not-Dorsidarf wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:50 am Ive never heard anything about cross pollinating unstable plants, that sounds really annoying. Botany trays should start with glass dividers as a mapping QOL to prevent invisible unintuitive food contamination
Yeah, sure, just go ahead and make it completely obvious that the botanist is doing something untoward to the chef's produce when they decide to remove the divider. Cross pollination has been around for three years. Get with the times, old man!
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Fatal wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 3:18 pm Also I ate a big tomato and got 3rd degree burns on all 6 parts of my body and went into crit
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Post by LeekiLoku » #681416

I ate a peanut and for some reason, i healed all my ailments. Is it possible to get adminorazine from random chem botany?
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Post by Jacquerel » #681502

LeekiLoku wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:42 pm I ate a peanut and for some reason, i healed all my ailments. Is it possible to get adminorazine from random chem botany?
The chemicals you get in plants largely are not random, they are from the plants they are growing next to
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Jacquerel wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:34 pm
LeekiLoku wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:42 pm I ate a peanut and for some reason, i healed all my ailments. Is it possible to get adminorazine from random chem botany?
The chemicals you get in plants largely are not random, they are from the plants they are growing next to
*unless stability is too low
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Jacquerel wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:34 pm
LeekiLoku wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:42 pm I ate a peanut and for some reason, i healed all my ailments. Is it possible to get adminorazine from random chem botany?
The chemicals you get in plants largely are not random, they are from the plants they are growing next to
You good? Its called chem rolling you get it from having ANY plant 80 instability or higher.
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Post by Jacquerel » #681725

LeekiLoku wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 12:09 pm
Jacquerel wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:34 pm
LeekiLoku wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:42 pm I ate a peanut and for some reason, i healed all my ailments. Is it possible to get adminorazine from random chem botany?
The chemicals you get in plants largely are not random, they are from the plants they are growing next to
You good? Its called chem rolling you get it from having ANY plant 80 instability or higher.
Randomised reagents draw from `REAGENT_CAN_BE_SYNTHESIZED` which means no adminordrazine.
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Super Aggro Crag wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 1:19 am i try to make tomato soup and i get blasted in the face with tear gas foam rendering me blind for the rest of the shift.

thank you for removing another thing i enjoyed from the game in the name of making a job more complex so that 90 percent of the people playing will continue to just deep fry shoes and boil eggs
The same thing happened with fishing. Fishing went from being overly productive, to now where 30% of the time you catch garbage and 40% of the time you catch nothing (after playing the barely functioning and laggy fishing minigame from Stardew Valley). To the point that no one even bothers with it outside of critically bored prisoners/assistants. There's a reason why Stardew had you instantly reel in trash/algae, playing the fishing minigame to get literally nothing is frustrating.

Coders love making stuff overly complicated and tedious, then wonder why players just default to doing an easy-to-set-up method over and over again. In this case, it just leads to most chefs deep frying random shit or just making dozens and dozens of burgers the entire shift, much to the frustration of species with more specialized diets.
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Vekter wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:03 pm
Fatal wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 3:18 pm Also I ate a big tomato and got 3rd degree burns on all 6 parts of my body and went into crit
Why would I ever quit playing this game? Where else am I going to get comedy like this?
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