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Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hardsuit
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:58 am
by Zilenan91
Usually most miners will buy at least one of these and it'll just kinda sit in their bags waiting to be used, taking up space. It would be nice if they could just combine them into their hardsuit to save the hassle.
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:24 am
by Xhuis
On that note, why not remove mining jetpacks altogether and give their hardsuits inbuilt jetpacks? Engineering hardsuits already have the same thing, as do blood-red hardsuits and atmos hardsuits.
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:37 am
by Not-Dorsidarf
Xhuis wrote:On that note, why not remove mining jetpacks altogether and give their hardsuits inbuilt jetpacks? Engineering hardsuits already have the same thing, as do blood-red hardsuits and atmos hardsuits.
Because jetpacks are a reward for doing well, since they dont actually need the buggers.
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:42 am
by Gun Hog
Why not just let the suit storage hold the jetpack? It should work from that spot.
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:22 pm
by Bombadil
Gun Hog wrote:Why not just let the suit storage hold the jetpack? It should work from that spot.
You can...
but it needs to be on your back to do anything
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 1:45 pm
by Gun Hog
Bombadil wrote:Gun Hog wrote:Why not just let the suit storage hold the jetpack? It should work from that spot.
You can...
but it needs to be on your back to do anything
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//Do we have a working jetpack
if(istype(back, /obj/item/weapon/tank/jetpack) && isturf(loc)) //Second check is so you can't use a jetpack in a mech
var/obj/item/weapon/tank/jetpack/J = back
if((movement_dir || J.stabilization_on) && J.allow_thrust(0.01, src))
return 1
if(istype(wear_suit, /obj/item/clothing/suit/space/hardsuit) && isturf(loc)) //Second check is so you can't use a jetpack in a mech
var/obj/item/clothing/suit/space/hardsuit/C = wear_suit
if(C.jetpack)
if((movement_dir || C.jetpack.stabilization_on) && C.jetpack.allow_thrust(0.01, src))
return 1
Poor code if you ask me. Anyway, you could have a check for the jetpack in suit storage as well.
Or simply let the miner slap the jetpack into the suit to give it an internal one. Requires no change in jetpack code that way.
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:59 pm
by Scott
Miners don't need jetpacks, the asteroid has gravity.
So no to all.
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:18 pm
by Bombadil
Scott wrote:Miners don't need jetpacks, the asteroid has gravity.
So no to all.
You do realize we could take the asteroids gravity away right?
Also you can use the jetpack to go around the edge of the asteroid and look for minerals. Used to be really good
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:19 pm
by Scott
Bombadil wrote:Scott wrote:Miners don't need jetpacks, the asteroid has gravity.
So no to all.
You do realize we could take the asteroids gravity away right?
Also you can use the jetpack to go around the edge of the asteroid and look for minerals. Used to be really good
Exactly for what purpose would you remove gravity from the asteroid, genius?
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:12 pm
by Gun Hog
Scott wrote:Bombadil wrote:Scott wrote:Miners don't need jetpacks, the asteroid has gravity.
So no to all.
You do realize we could take the asteroids gravity away right?
Also you can use the jetpack to go around the edge of the asteroid and look for minerals. Used to be really good
Exactly for what purpose would you remove gravity from the asteroid, genius?
HARDMODE
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:02 pm
by Stan_Studnick
Scott wrote:Miners don't need jetpacks, the asteroid has gravity.
So no to all.
"I don't actually play miner but I hate the idea of anyone actually enjoying themselves so I don't want any of this."
That's the subtext I see in your post. If you did play miner you'd know the really good selection requires either a walk in zero gravity or essentially mining out the entire asteroid.
EDIT: Actually I just had a thought, anyone on a really slow connection that is more or less stuck playing roles like this has a really hard time killing the wildlife on the asteroid. So it's either EVA or the severe risk of being put out of the round because everyone forgets you exist and doesn't think to look for you if you die.
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:06 pm
by Saegrimr
I think the built-in jetpack thing is fucking stupid for everybody.
At least the "put it in suit storage" is a good idea. I vaguely remember the Void jetpacks being able to fit there, at least on the Void suit maybe.
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:35 pm
by Zilenan91
Saegrimr wrote:I think the built-in jetpack thing is fucking stupid for everybody.
At least the "put it in suit storage" is a good idea. I vaguely remember the Void jetpacks being able to fit there, at least on the Void suit maybe.
The jetpacks fit in your suit storage, but if you put that there, there's no more space for your oxygen tank except just awkwardly fumbling with it in your hands, and if you get stunned or drop it you're fucked. Also, if I'm not wrong, I think there is a bug that jetpacks in the suit storage slot don't actually work, they need to be on your back or else you just float regularly in space with jetpack particles behind you doing nothing. It might have been fixed.
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:46 pm
by PKPenguin321
jetpacks not working when put in suit storage was removed because it was considered to be a bug, the reasoning being the drawback to jetpacks was the sacrifice of the back slot
now that we have inbuilt jetpacks anyways this point is kinda moot
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:59 pm
by Zilenan91
Basically yeah, but having to hold your oxygen tank in your hands is NOT a worthy trade off to holding it in your suit, if you drop it, you're dead kiddo.
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:15 am
by DaemonBomb
Well, you could put it in your pocket and keep the mining satchel in your bag, and just leave the backpack window open for easy access to said satchel. That way you could keep the jetpack in your exosuit, your pick on your belt slot, your oxygen in one pocket, and your mining scanner in the other.
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:44 am
by Saegrimr
Zilenan91 wrote:Basically yeah, but having to hold your oxygen tank in your hands is NOT a worthy trade off to holding it in your suit, if you drop it, you're dead kiddo.
Pocket for emergency tanks (which last fucking forever anyway) and belt slot for larger tanks. If you have an important belt of some kind, they all fit in your backpack as well for the time being.
It's more about the option to do so than forcing everybody to use the suit storage.
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:22 am
by Zilenan91
I don't know if emergency oxygen tanks fit in pockets anymore, but I know they fit in the belt slot. Either way, as a miner, you're probably gonna have your pickaxe on your belt so that's out of the question, and if they're in your backpack, I don't know if they're still connected to your internals.
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:51 am
by newfren
Emergency oxygen tanks still fit in pockets, it's just the blue ones don't really last long enough for a decent mining round. Although actually miners probably get yellow ones? I dunno it's been a long time since I checked a miner's internal box.
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:54 am
by Zilenan91
I don't think miners get yellow ones
Re: Add ability for miners to build mining jetpack into hard
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:05 am
by Saegrimr
Yes, they get yellows.