kill ei nath

[PKPenguin321]

https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/14008
"Removes ei nath from spellbook"
yes or no?

[PKPenguin321]

i say no, it's not good enough to warrant removal and it is a useful tool for an antag who has to fight off an entire station

[Cik]

getting rid of ei nath is only okay if you rebalance most of the other wizard spells

ei nath was NEVER THE PROBLEM it's the stun/escape stacking that's the real cancer of wizard.

[Bawhoppennn]

Like I said, I'd be happy if you could only do it if they were already in crit or dead

[Incoming]

My comments from the github

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Get out of my house.

Ei nath isn't overused horseshit anymore, it requires melee range, a free hand, and enough robustness/hulkness to not get ranged stun'd.

It is the 12th most taken spell, and on average a wizard with the nath will use it only once during the course of a round.

I've said it before I'll say it again, if you are in melee range of a wizard you should be very worried.

/10

Downthumbered

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say it with me folks
"You're never supposed to 1 v 1 a wizard and expect to win"

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Travel in groups, don't get separated. Be prepared. If you're alone and see the wizard start to phase in, run like hell. If the wizard catches you alone on his terms you've already lost. At the end of the day the nath can only neutralize one person every 60/50/40/30/20 seconds.

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I've given enough good arguments, here's a shitty one:

It's classic

[ShadowDimentio]

We need to get a code maintainer hired specifically to close "i ded" meme PRs

In other news, jesus christ people need to stop being so assblasted when they die

[Incomptinence]

Why yes ei nath is meant to kill.

Good observation.

[TheNightingale]

Ei nath isn't the problem - wizards that jaunt in, use Magic Missile, use Ei Nath, and shoot everyone else are the problem.

[RedMcCloud]

I guess they've had...

EI NATH of this spell

[Incomptinence]

Ei nath isn't the problem - wizards that jaunt in, use Magic Missile, use Ei Nath, and shoot everyone else are the problem.

I can't really blame them most of the spell list is random jank that either does nothing or gets you killed. Their other killer spells are what lightning bolt and fireball?

I never really play wizard that way but let's say I don't really come close to winning at all.

[newfren]

The other good way to kill people is flesh to stone --> staff of animation but that's like 3 spells and some inventory management when you could just click Ei Nath.

[Steelpoint]

Can I Ei Nath the guy who made the PR?

[Gun Hog]

I have have EI NATH!! of nerfs and removals. This trend of making PRs to remove things because you lost to them needs to die.

[TechnoAlchemist]

Ei bath is perfectly balanced ever since the touch nerf
Animation staff still guaranteed win but that's okay

[Incoming]

Animation staff still guaranteed win but that's okay

Guess who just got nerfed https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/13861

[TechnoAlchemist]

Animation staff still guaranteed win but that's okay

Guess who just got nerfed https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/13861

Sad day tbh

[Incomptinence]

Buff nerfers so they self destruct.

[Luke Cox]

Git gud

[leibniz]

"Everyone agrees its the most hated spell and OP,"

>OP
heh

It's basically wasting a spell slot

[PKPenguin321]

pr got closed