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machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:09 pm
by CPTANT
I just noticed when playing traitor AI that the interface for machine overload and override is horrible.

You are just given a list of all things on the station and have to select whatever you want to override/overload.

It's so bad that the ability is almost unusable.

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:16 pm
by Wyzack
On the topic of new ui, the cargo ui is pretty bad. Having all the crate options on one screen makes it way too big, harder to find what you want and slightly laggy. Also you can't give reasons for ordering crates as far as I can tell

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:19 pm
by neersighted
You know there's a filter right? Anyway I didn't make cargo techs give reasons because usually they should approve requests. that's a one line change though. And I'm switching the UI to be tabbed so it loads faster.

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:26 pm
by CPTANT
neersighted wrote:You know there's a filter right? Anyway I didn't make cargo techs give reasons because usually they should approve requests. that's a one line change though. And I'm switching the UI to be tabbed so it loads faster.
what filter, it just throws a list in your face

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:31 pm
by CPTANT
ohw wait it ALSO adds a menu option under right click, why does that list exist in the first place then?

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:39 pm
by neersighted
CPTANT wrote:ohw wait it ALSO adds a menu option under right click, why does that list exist in the first place then?
In the upper right corner, there is a filter box. Y'know, for search.

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:49 pm
by CPTANT
neersighted wrote:
CPTANT wrote:ohw wait it ALSO adds a menu option under right click, why does that list exist in the first place then?
In the upper right corner, there is a filter box. Y'know, for search.
no?

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:59 pm
by neersighted
CPTANT wrote:
neersighted wrote:
CPTANT wrote:ohw wait it ALSO adds a menu option under right click, why does that list exist in the first place then?
In the upper right corner, there is a filter box. Y'know, for search.
no?
Ah, you're on no frills. Search requires fancy :p

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:04 pm
by CPTANT
neersighted wrote:
CPTANT wrote:
neersighted wrote:
CPTANT wrote:ohw wait it ALSO adds a menu option under right click, why does that list exist in the first place then?
In the upper right corner, there is a filter box. Y'know, for search.
no?
Ah, you're on no frills. Search requires fancy :p
No its on fancey.

WHY WOULD ESSENTIAL INTERFACE FEATURES BE LOCKED BEHIND A FANCY BUTTON IN THE FIRST PLACE

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:19 pm
by Remie Richards
CPTANT wrote:
neersighted wrote:
CPTANT wrote:
neersighted wrote:
CPTANT wrote:ohw wait it ALSO adds a menu option under right click, why does that list exist in the first place then?
In the upper right corner, there is a filter box. Y'know, for search.
no?
Ah, you're on no frills. Search requires fancy :p
No its on fancey.

WHY WOULD ESSENTIAL INTERFACE FEATURES BE LOCKED BEHIND A FANCY BUTTON IN THE FIRST PLACE
Because "Fancy" is really the toggle between "You have an old version of IE" and "You have ie 9+"
The way the search function was implemented simply doesn't work on IE8 and below.

SO UPDATE YOUR FRIGGIN IE.

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:19 pm
by neersighted
CPTANT wrote:
neersighted wrote:
CPTANT wrote:
neersighted wrote:
CPTANT wrote:ohw wait it ALSO adds a menu option under right click, why does that list exist in the first place then?
In the upper right corner, there is a filter box. Y'know, for search.
no?
Ah, you're on no frills. Search requires fancy :p
No its on fancey.

WHY WOULD ESSENTIAL INTERFACE FEATURES BE LOCKED BEHIND A FANCY BUTTON IN THE FIRST PLACE
Because internet explorer 8 is not capable of supporting filtering?

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:23 pm
by CPTANT
Remie Richards wrote:
CPTANT wrote:
neersighted wrote:
CPTANT wrote:
neersighted wrote:
CPTANT wrote:ohw wait it ALSO adds a menu option under right click, why does that list exist in the first place then?
In the upper right corner, there is a filter box. Y'know, for search.
no?
Ah, you're on no frills. Search requires fancy :p
No its on fancey.

WHY WOULD ESSENTIAL INTERFACE FEATURES BE LOCKED BEHIND A FANCY BUTTON IN THE FIRST PLACE
Because "Fancy" is really the toggle between "You have an old version of IE" and "You have ie 9+"
The way the search function was implemented simply doesn't work on IE8 and below.

SO UPDATE YOUR FRIGGIN IE.
first of all: who the fuck still uses IE

second: I already told you its on fancy.

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:24 pm
by Zilenan91
Nobody uses IE, but you still need it for a lot of things because many programs were built around it.

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:29 pm
by neersighted
CPTANT wrote:-SNIP-
Well then, something is bugged. Double check. You should see a filter box like:

Image

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:34 pm
by CPTANT
neersighted wrote:
CPTANT wrote:-SNIP-
Well then, something is bugged. Double check. You should see a filter box like:

Image
You do realise I was talking about the actual subject of this topic right?

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:35 pm
by Gun Hog
CPTANT wrote:I just noticed when playing traitor AI that the interface for machine overload and override is horrible.

You are just given a list of all things on the station and have to select whatever you want to override/overload.

It's so bad that the ability is almost unusable.
Right click your target, and select the appropriate verb from the menu.

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:41 pm
by CPTANT
Gun Hog wrote:
CPTANT wrote:I just noticed when playing traitor AI that the interface for machine overload and override is horrible.

You are just given a list of all things on the station and have to select whatever you want to override/overload.

It's so bad that the ability is almost unusable.
Right click your target, and select the appropriate verb from the menu.
Yes already found that, but my question remains: Why does clicking the overload/override button give a list of things to overload/override? That list is completely unusable and is confusing.

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:43 pm
by Remie Richards
CPTANT wrote:
first of all: who the fuck still uses IE

second: I already told you its on fancy.
Nobody said you had to -USE- IE, you just need it installed.
If you don't have it installed, you have IE6 (Built into windows!)
Fancy features need IE9 or more.
Even if you have it on Fancy, if you're not on IE9 or more it just isn't going to work!

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:43 pm
by Zilenan91
How can you check what version of IE you have?

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:46 pm
by Remie Richards
Zilenan91 wrote:How can you check what version of IE you have?
Open IE, click the cog in the top right, "About Internet Explorer"

Re: machine override/overload UI

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:48 pm
by Zilenan91
Thanks!