You know what's funny? The current armor vest is the old armor vest that was introduced during last change, and ultimately rejected. I have it in my avatar, which I also created to show disdain towards the uniform changes that you tried to push. And now we came around in full circle.
TechnoAlchemist wrote:The pr was positively received and making a forum thread will, as it always has, result in shit flinging and vocal minority issues and bickering
That's a really cute shifting of the blame. How about you make a thread yourself next time, so people could voice their opinions BEFORE you drop the pr. That should somewhat reduce the bickering.
aka Schlomo Gaskin aka Guru Meditation aka Copyright Alright aka Topkek McHonk aka Le Rouge
I think that this thread is kinda proof that there is a negative response. However, overall I've seen the response on the server to be rather pleasant.
I will have a server poll put up after all the initial kneejerk anger dies down and take it from there.
TechnoAlchemist wrote:I think that this thread is kinda proof that there is a negative response. However, overall I've seen the response on the server to be rather pleasant.
I will have a server poll put up after all the initial kneejerk anger dies down and take it from there.
I've yet to see a single PR Discussion thread on the forums where the same group of people don't bitch at each other about it.
They're sometimes on different sides of the issue but it's the exact same people fighting, it doesn't even matter what the PR Is. Just kinda seems like you bitch at eachothers work to spite the other.
Tornadium wrote:snip
I've yet to see a single PR Discussion thread on the forums where the same group of people don't bitch at each other about it.
They're sometimes on different sides of the issue but it's the exact same people fighting, it doesn't even matter what the PR Is. Just kinda seems like you bitch at eachothers work to spite the other.
It's probably called having opinions, reputations and opinions on the reputations of others. At least this isn't a forum where the goers are faceless, in large number and enjoy debating (yelling at one another) what barely passes for politics.
Also you should look through a more PR discussion threads. They're not all whiny. You're probably just thinking about security-centric ones that tend to change the flavour of the job through adding something and removing another. I'm pretty certain most PRs that are just additive rather than shifting onto a (mostly) parallel design get decent responses. Oh and finally, fanning the flames doesn't help when others are already on edge.
If I was talking about only sec PRs I would have said only sec PRs.
I deliberately said it doesn't matter what the PR is for a reason.
Tornadium wrote:Over the last two days most security players seem to really like the new change.
I've yet to see a negative response.
I popped on to check it out and thought it was slightly worse than what was there before, but to be honest it's just a sprite and I can't bring myself to care much about it.
I expect that's most players. Everyone can have an opinion on sprites but so long as I can basically distinguish a person in one job from a person in another it's mostly fine.
Incomptinence wrote:It can't be reverted a github circle jerk gave him party poppers you can't beat that!
I opened a revert PR not because I have a strong opinion on this (this whole thing is just bikeshedding and I feel bad for all of you) but so that you guys will calm down about "not even having the option to revert."
Listen. How about this: Make jumpsuits rotate randomly with every round. This way you can have your ugly snowflakes in, and uniforms will remain...uniform.
Is that an acceptable compromise?
aka Schlomo Gaskin aka Guru Meditation aka Copyright Alright aka Topkek McHonk aka Le Rouge
Steelpoint wrote:How many people are on Github PR's versus the more visible, and easier to keep track of, forums?
I just want to say how completely wrong you are if you think that it's easier going to a separate website to look through forums to find a thread that can have multiple pages to read through, or may not even exist yet vs. scrolling down on the PR you're already looking at to see the comments people have made.
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Incomptinence wrote:It can't be reverted a github circle jerk gave him party poppers you can't beat that!
I opened a revert PR not because I have a strong opinion on this (this whole thing is just bikeshedding and I feel bad for all of you) but so that you guys will calm down about "not even having the option to revert."
Back during the sprite war we did come to a consensus that a good solution would be allowing the round start HoS to set his departments overall security theme for the round.
So a HoS could chose to have Red Sec, or Grey Sec or whatever other variations of Sec as the color for the round. If there was no HoS then the game would either pick a default color (red) or just pick one at random.
This system was also discussed into being used with other departments.
>Shit change is pushed through
>Community backlash
>Coders saying it's their fault for not complaining on git
>Someone eventually steps up and puts up a revert
>Revert is immediately closed because m-muh kneejerk, m-muh codebaby
>Community all yells what the fuck
>Revert is put up again
>Shit change is reverted after lengthy delay
>Go back to one after a week
THE CYCLE CONTINUES
Spoiler:
"Clowns are different you can't trust those shifty fucks you never know what they're doing or if they're willing to eat a dayban for some cheap yuks."
-Not-Dorsidarf
"The amount of people is the amount of times the sound is played... on top of itself. And with sybil populations on the shuttle..."
-Remie Richards
"I just spent all fucking day playing fallen london and sunless sea and obsessing over how creepy the fucking dawn machine is and only just clocked now that your avatar is the fucking dawn machine. Nobody vote for this disgusting new sequence blasphemer he wants to kill the gods"
-Stickymayhem
"Drank a cocktail of orange Gatorade and mint mouthwash on accident. Pretty sure I'm going to die, I am on the verge of vomit. It was nice knowing you guys"
-PKPenguin321
"You're too late, you will have to fetch them from the top of my tower, built by zombies, slaves, zombie slaves and garitho's will to live!"
-Armhulen
"This is like being cooked alive in a microwave oven which utilises the autistic end of the light spectrum to cook you."
-DarkFNC
"Penguins are the second race to realise 2D>3D"
-Anonmare
"Paul Blart mall cops if they all had ambitions of joining the Waffen-SS"
-Anonmare
"These logs could kill a dragon much less a man"
-Armhulenn
">7 8 6
WHAT MADNESS IS THIS? POETIC ANARCHY!"
-Wyzack
"We didn't kick one goofball out only to have another one come in like a fucking revolving door"
-Kraseo
"There's a difference between fucking faggots and being a fucking faggot."
-Anonmare
"You guys splitting the 20 bucks cost to hire your ex again?"
-lntigracy
"Wew. Congrats. It's been actual years since anyone tried to make fun of me for being divorced. You caught me, I'm tilted. Here is your trophy."
-Timbrewolf
"I prefer my coffees to run dry too *snorts a line of maxwell house*"
-Super Aggro Crag
"You don't have an evil bone in your body, unless togopal comes for a sleepover"
-Bluespace
">Paying over a $1000 for a lump of silicon and plastic
Lol"
-Anonmare
"Then why did you get that boob job?"
-DrPillzRedux
"You take that back you colonial mongrel"
-Docprofsmith
"I don't care whether or not someone with an IQ 3 standard deviations below my own thinks they enjoy Wizard rounds."
-Malkraz
Zilenan91 wrote:People have the option of getting on github and checking out what changes are going on the server and they don't take it and get angry when things they don't like get merged. Speak up.
Every time I go on github to whine about shit they tell me to go on the forums and do it.
Zilenan91 wrote:Nobody is lying when they say it takes three seconds to look on git and give feedback
So do that
Have you considered that not everyone wants to do this, myself included, but also don't want to have to constantly deal with shitty changed being out through?
Feedback on the forums is or should be just as valid as bitching on the git
Spoiler:
"Clowns are different you can't trust those shifty fucks you never know what they're doing or if they're willing to eat a dayban for some cheap yuks."
-Not-Dorsidarf
"The amount of people is the amount of times the sound is played... on top of itself. And with sybil populations on the shuttle..."
-Remie Richards
"I just spent all fucking day playing fallen london and sunless sea and obsessing over how creepy the fucking dawn machine is and only just clocked now that your avatar is the fucking dawn machine. Nobody vote for this disgusting new sequence blasphemer he wants to kill the gods"
-Stickymayhem
"Drank a cocktail of orange Gatorade and mint mouthwash on accident. Pretty sure I'm going to die, I am on the verge of vomit. It was nice knowing you guys"
-PKPenguin321
"You're too late, you will have to fetch them from the top of my tower, built by zombies, slaves, zombie slaves and garitho's will to live!"
-Armhulen
"This is like being cooked alive in a microwave oven which utilises the autistic end of the light spectrum to cook you."
-DarkFNC
"Penguins are the second race to realise 2D>3D"
-Anonmare
"Paul Blart mall cops if they all had ambitions of joining the Waffen-SS"
-Anonmare
"These logs could kill a dragon much less a man"
-Armhulenn
">7 8 6
WHAT MADNESS IS THIS? POETIC ANARCHY!"
-Wyzack
"We didn't kick one goofball out only to have another one come in like a fucking revolving door"
-Kraseo
"There's a difference between fucking faggots and being a fucking faggot."
-Anonmare
"You guys splitting the 20 bucks cost to hire your ex again?"
-lntigracy
"Wew. Congrats. It's been actual years since anyone tried to make fun of me for being divorced. You caught me, I'm tilted. Here is your trophy."
-Timbrewolf
"I prefer my coffees to run dry too *snorts a line of maxwell house*"
-Super Aggro Crag
"You don't have an evil bone in your body, unless togopal comes for a sleepover"
-Bluespace
">Paying over a $1000 for a lump of silicon and plastic
Lol"
-Anonmare
"Then why did you get that boob job?"
-DrPillzRedux
"You take that back you colonial mongrel"
-Docprofsmith
"I don't care whether or not someone with an IQ 3 standard deviations below my own thinks they enjoy Wizard rounds."
-Malkraz
The forums are simply better for feedback and discussion than Github is.
Github revolves around shitposting meme images and discussing the code changes.
I've personally always put up a forum thread for any major changes I've ever made, from the sec sprites to guns or even the change to the shuttles. To see someone merge a controversial, both historically and presently, PR within 24 hours with no forum feedback thread just seems disingenuous.
Why is it that ""feedback"" on Github is more valid than feedback on the forums, tripple so when maintainers oft tell people to take their feedback to the FORUMS over Github?
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Also I disagree on allowing individual officer to select their own color scheme, that would be inconsistant. It would be better off with the HoS.
Alright, here's an idea: Nanotrasen contracts security out to several private firms. Each firm has strengths and weaknesses in their loadouts, in addition to cosmetic differences. At the start of the round, HoS picks which firm he represents.
"Clowns are different you can't trust those shifty fucks you never know what they're doing or if they're willing to eat a dayban for some cheap yuks."
-Not-Dorsidarf
"The amount of people is the amount of times the sound is played... on top of itself. And with sybil populations on the shuttle..."
-Remie Richards
"I just spent all fucking day playing fallen london and sunless sea and obsessing over how creepy the fucking dawn machine is and only just clocked now that your avatar is the fucking dawn machine. Nobody vote for this disgusting new sequence blasphemer he wants to kill the gods"
-Stickymayhem
"Drank a cocktail of orange Gatorade and mint mouthwash on accident. Pretty sure I'm going to die, I am on the verge of vomit. It was nice knowing you guys"
-PKPenguin321
"You're too late, you will have to fetch them from the top of my tower, built by zombies, slaves, zombie slaves and garitho's will to live!"
-Armhulen
"This is like being cooked alive in a microwave oven which utilises the autistic end of the light spectrum to cook you."
-DarkFNC
"Penguins are the second race to realise 2D>3D"
-Anonmare
"Paul Blart mall cops if they all had ambitions of joining the Waffen-SS"
-Anonmare
"These logs could kill a dragon much less a man"
-Armhulenn
">7 8 6
WHAT MADNESS IS THIS? POETIC ANARCHY!"
-Wyzack
"We didn't kick one goofball out only to have another one come in like a fucking revolving door"
-Kraseo
"There's a difference between fucking faggots and being a fucking faggot."
-Anonmare
"You guys splitting the 20 bucks cost to hire your ex again?"
-lntigracy
"Wew. Congrats. It's been actual years since anyone tried to make fun of me for being divorced. You caught me, I'm tilted. Here is your trophy."
-Timbrewolf
"I prefer my coffees to run dry too *snorts a line of maxwell house*"
-Super Aggro Crag
"You don't have an evil bone in your body, unless togopal comes for a sleepover"
-Bluespace
">Paying over a $1000 for a lump of silicon and plastic
Lol"
-Anonmare
"Then why did you get that boob job?"
-DrPillzRedux
"You take that back you colonial mongrel"
-Docprofsmith
"I don't care whether or not someone with an IQ 3 standard deviations below my own thinks they enjoy Wizard rounds."
-Malkraz
People who don't like it based on this feedback thread
Lumbermancer
SaC
Saegrimar
Demonfiren
ShadowMemeiotion
Luke Cox
Stealpoint
DavidChan
Cosmic Meme
Wyzack
But for real, I was thinking one firm has excellent riot control, one is great at non-lethal detainment, one has a ton of ion gear, one is our standard, jack-of-all-trades sec, etc.
Actually, no, I'm part of the interdimensional lizard conspiracy.
There was actually a merge between the Illuminati and the lizard conspiracy a while back, you should have gotten the memo, I would check your junk mail.
Actually, no, I'm part of the interdimensional lizard conspiracy.
There was actually a merge between the Illuminati and the lizard conspiracy a while back, you should have gotten the memo, I would check your junk mail.
"Clowns are different you can't trust those shifty fucks you never know what they're doing or if they're willing to eat a dayban for some cheap yuks."
-Not-Dorsidarf
"The amount of people is the amount of times the sound is played... on top of itself. And with sybil populations on the shuttle..."
-Remie Richards
"I just spent all fucking day playing fallen london and sunless sea and obsessing over how creepy the fucking dawn machine is and only just clocked now that your avatar is the fucking dawn machine. Nobody vote for this disgusting new sequence blasphemer he wants to kill the gods"
-Stickymayhem
"Drank a cocktail of orange Gatorade and mint mouthwash on accident. Pretty sure I'm going to die, I am on the verge of vomit. It was nice knowing you guys"
-PKPenguin321
"You're too late, you will have to fetch them from the top of my tower, built by zombies, slaves, zombie slaves and garitho's will to live!"
-Armhulen
"This is like being cooked alive in a microwave oven which utilises the autistic end of the light spectrum to cook you."
-DarkFNC
"Penguins are the second race to realise 2D>3D"
-Anonmare
"Paul Blart mall cops if they all had ambitions of joining the Waffen-SS"
-Anonmare
"These logs could kill a dragon much less a man"
-Armhulenn
">7 8 6
WHAT MADNESS IS THIS? POETIC ANARCHY!"
-Wyzack
"We didn't kick one goofball out only to have another one come in like a fucking revolving door"
-Kraseo
"There's a difference between fucking faggots and being a fucking faggot."
-Anonmare
"You guys splitting the 20 bucks cost to hire your ex again?"
-lntigracy
"Wew. Congrats. It's been actual years since anyone tried to make fun of me for being divorced. You caught me, I'm tilted. Here is your trophy."
-Timbrewolf
"I prefer my coffees to run dry too *snorts a line of maxwell house*"
-Super Aggro Crag
"You don't have an evil bone in your body, unless togopal comes for a sleepover"
-Bluespace
">Paying over a $1000 for a lump of silicon and plastic
Lol"
-Anonmare
"Then why did you get that boob job?"
-DrPillzRedux
"You take that back you colonial mongrel"
-Docprofsmith
"I don't care whether or not someone with an IQ 3 standard deviations below my own thinks they enjoy Wizard rounds."
-Malkraz
Did Techno really have to start this shit up again...seriously, we went over this last time. The Grey sec jumpsuit theme looks retarded. The sec armour is ugly aswell.
Its been almost ten days, I can move to put up a revert PR. Or we can do a in game poll, a forum poll or a flame war on a Github PR and subsequent linked thread.
I still really dislike these grey uniforms and I regret setting these up as a compromise sprite a year ago.
An in game poll would probably be the best way to gauge player opinion of these. I think they look like garbage too but if the majority wants garbage we cannot exactly beat good taste into them over the internet. It really would be a shame to lose our iconic redshirts though
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