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Let Spears Break Doors

Post by ShadowDimentio » #227611

There was a brief time when spears could break doors. It took like three minutes and wasn't worth it at all, but was fun if you wanted to UNGA your way into places. Bring it back.
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors

Post by TechnoAlchemist » #227616

they still can if you sharpen them
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Post by yackemflam » #227910

Sharpening only happens when the chef DOESNT sharpen his knife with the ONE sharpening stone he has.
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Post by firecage » #227921

Soo.....When can we get the second stone back?
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Post by jaxy15 » #227925

firecage wrote:Soo.....When can we get the second stone back?
Camp the shuttle and kill the other chef when he arrives.
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Post by Lumbermancer » #227947

it's a rod with a shard of glass attached to it with a wire
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Post by Davidchan » #227957

And airlocks are tinfoil sheets wired to an RC car motor, your point?
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors

Post by ShadowDimentio » #227959

TechnoAlchemist wrote:they still can if you sharpen them
I don't want to murder the chef.
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors

Post by Durkel » #228243

Pro tip : Throw your spear at the door until the door breaks. alternatively : Get good.
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors

Post by Jacough » #228251

Breaking doors with spears doesn't even make sense. You're hitting a thick metal door with a piece of glass tied to the end. If anything the glass should break off the spear
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors

Post by Alipheese » #228381

Jacough wrote:Breaking doors with spears doesn't even make sense. You're hitting a thick metal door with a piece of glass tied to the end. If anything the glass should break off the spear
Shhhh
Considering that a spessman can exerte about
15.5 petajoules of energy from their arms at the weakest.
210 petajoules is the tsar bomba at its half power.
Just pushing their arm out would obliterate the airlock.

Edit: note im fucking retarded when it comes to the scientific quotations so that 15.5 petajoules most likely either 10x weaker or 100x weaker than the real number.

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Post by TheNightingale » #228389

Where did you get 15.5 petajoules from? Unarmed melee punches? Dragging stuff?
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Post by Alipheese » #228390

TheNightingale wrote:Where did you get 15.5 petajoules from? Unarmed melee punches? Dragging stuff?
From the old autism spessman research pile I did. Took an average force a human can exerte in a punch, based on mass, accelerations and spessman capabilites.
Mostly spessman can move faster than light so that's it really.

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Post by TheNightingale » #228391

"Average spessman punches 15.5 petajoules of energy" factoid actualy just statistical error. Average spessman punches 100 joules of energy. Spessman Georg, who lives in maint & energies over 10,000 petajoules a punch, is an outlier adn should not have been counted
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Post by PKPenguin321 » #228392

you can throw spears at doors and they eventually break
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Post by Dagdammit » #233916

Spears damage muh immersion, honestly. I'd like to see them get a -5 reduction in damage unless you're an ash walker or someone else with actual proficiency in primitive melee weapons.
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors

Post by TheColdTurtle » #233931

Spears are in general the best melee weapon in real life. It takes barley any training to use one since it is just a sharp long range poking stick that can easily kill a man. Plus the distance on real spears is amazing. If anything we should allow spears to attack at least 1 tile ahead of you
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Post by Bombadil » #233937

TheColdTurtle wrote:Spears are in general the best melee weapon in real life. It takes barley any training to use one since it is just a sharp long range poking stick that can easily kill a man. Plus the distance on real spears is amazing. If anything we should allow spears to attack at least 1 tile ahead of you
Seriously long swords weren't even a thing until Iron. You would bend the swords using them for murder. Also spears could be used for hunting and fishing. Swords were solely for murdering another human being.
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Post by Okand37 » #233973

As they say in the sweet land of skyrim, the gods gave you two hands, and you use them both for your weapon. I can respect that.
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors

Post by TheColdTurtle » #233982

Spears are not in skyrim though because bethesda does not know how to use them.
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Post by Okand37 » #233989

TheColdTurtle wrote:Spears are not in skyrim though because bethesda does not know how to use them.
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Post by Cik » #234000

half the stuff that breaks doors shouldn't break doors imo

a spear is a stick with a glass shard on it it shouldn't be able to structurally damage something made out of steel
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Post by Grazyn » #234100

PKPenguin321 wrote:you can throw spears at doors and they eventually break
Normal airlocks have 20 damage deflection and spears have throwforce 20, so I guess the damage would be 0? Bone spears however have throwforce 22 so they would break a door eventually
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Re: Let Spears Break Doors

Post by PKPenguin321 » #234107

Grazyn wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:you can throw spears at doors and they eventually break
Normal airlocks have 20 damage deflection and spears have throwforce 20, so I guess the damage would be 0? Bone spears however have throwforce 22 so they would break a door eventually
no, effective damage is not 0. i break doors with thrown spears frequently.
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Post by Remie Richards » #234108

Grazyn wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:you can throw spears at doors and they eventually break
Normal airlocks have 20 damage deflection and spears have throwforce 20, so I guess the damage would be 0? Bone spears however have throwforce 22 so they would break a door eventually
what do you mean "damage deflection"? (there's no such thing in the game)
Do you mean armour? if so, that's a percentage, so that's 20% of 20 which is 4 blocked, so 16 damage.
If you mean the damage thresholds, minimum damage required to deal damage at all, then that's just a "dmg >= dmg_threshold" check, it never alters the actual damage, meaning you'd be doing 20 (because 20 == the dmg_threshold there, which is the = part of >= )
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Post by Grazyn » #234218

Yeah I was wrong, there's a var called damage_deflection, but that's the threshold and it works like you said. Throwing spears does indeed full 20 damage to normal airlocks.
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Post by Arianya » #234256

Give spears a HP pool that goes down as they're thrown so that you have to keep rebuilding your broken piece of shit spear

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