Station Goals are too time consuming for little gains

[Bombadil]

Issues with Station Goals


A: Take too much time
B: Too fucking expensive for what you get
C: Very little gains


Spent a whole round as captain just doing meteor shield setup. I was able to get from arrivals to cargo and part of cargo maint. Along with the escape shuttle but that was it. I had purchased over 5 boxes of satellites. Instructions state you need at least 2 satellites on the screen to ensure no meteors get through.

That was 15k credits and they were totally worthless only got a meteor storm from admins pressing buttons. Should just make the satellite system a single big object you can drag around and stuff metal and glass into that will produce a satellite on click so you can load the thing up with 200 metal and 200 glass and produce enough satellites to cover one side of the station or more.


BSA is even worse being that you need 20 bluespace crystals and quadratic capacitors for a thing that only has an explosion size of 1 and can only target gps's. Doesnt even hurt megafauna. Also if you fuck up the build you can cut the station in half.

DNA vault: Afaik really glitchy and requires an enormous amount of dna which is ridiculous. Also dna samplers are expensive as fuuuck

[onleavedontatme]

The rewards need to carry over to the next round or they'll never be worth it considering how long they take to complete

[Oldman Robustin]

If the rewards were crazy good I could see them being attempted without needing the round-crossover thing.

I've considered crossover effects before but there's always just too much "well if I get antag I really don't want the crew to use the badass shit I built to fuck my face in".

[XDTM]

What if the BSA allowed you to shoot the other station

[DemonFiren]

That would really put the BS in BSA.

Fund it.

[Whoisthere]

Make station goals easier like for instance SECURING THE DISK

[Steelpoint]

Station Goals should give a very strong reward for THAT round only. Right now there's no real incentive to go for a station goal and I disagree with having rewards extend to other rounds.

[Reece]

Let the DNA vault 'clone' tame simple mobs. Spider, carp, monkey and such so you can ranch spiders. Also make it an autocloner with everyones DNA

[Steelpoint]

Let the DNA vault 'clone' tame simple mobs. Spider, carp, monkey and such so you can ranch spiders. Also make it an autocloner with everyones DNA

That's a good suggestion, letting the DNA vault be a very powerful cloning machine that can quickly, and automatically, clone someone on death is a good reward. Maybe even giving the person some gear, or even a new ID card based on their original job.

[Bombadil]

Let the DNA vault 'clone' tame simple mobs. Spider, carp, monkey and such so you can ranch spiders. Also make it an autocloner with everyones DNA

That's a good suggestion, letting the DNA vault be a very powerful cloning machine that can quickly, and automatically, clone someone on death is a good reward. Maybe even giving the person some gear, or even a new ID card based on their original job.

If the station takes too much damage say like 75% or 60% why not have the current goals e expunged? Probably not too hard with singulo or tesloose

[onleavedontatme]

There is nothing remotely sane you can give out as a reward that will be better than what cargo/xenobio/mining/RD/botany has created in the same amount of time you spent building the station goal, and in any round you finish the goal in there are no enemies left to use your prize on. It needs a cross round reward for it to matter at all.

[D&B]

Why not make a buildable black box a station goal?

[Steelpoint]

Why not make a buildable black box a station goal?

A black box would be amusing, at least you can see what happened to the stations last crew.

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[D&B]

No, I meant the black box, colossus first drop.

It was a chest that kept items put in it through rounds. So if you killed a Drake and the Colossus and put Drake armor in the chest, you could use the Drake armor if you killed the Colossus again.

[Reece]

It was also absolute cancer.

[D&B]

It was also absolute cancer.

Because it was only locked behind a megafauna kill, and the three people that could kill it reliably worked in tandem to fill it to the brim.

But say, crew working together to make one, with it being extremely expensive, with a limited amount of items that can be put at a time during each round, could gate the flow of extremely strong items, and it being more expensive to produce would mean crew could only get to the stuff if everyone works together/extended.

[calzilla1]

How 2 make black box
1 order box core (25k)
2 mine obsidian (pour cyro into lava and mining takes like 30 sec)
3 build 6 obsidian walls (4 obsidian shard = 1 wall)
4 put 10 bluespace matter bin/ crystal/ <90 pot tomatos(?) Into the core
5 craft it and boom its finished. Not too hard

[Oldman Robustin]

Ok cmon Kor you gotta be creative:

Mech Factory: Anyone who steps inside will come up with a fully loaded Seraph mech, factory has only a short cooldown but takes an immense amount of material and an insane amount of powers to bring online.

Pandora's Box: Any crewmember can click the box (once) and receive rare and incredibly powerful artifacts (e.g. multiverse sword).

I could go on for an hour. These might not always tempt the crew to build them but it sure as fuck would be more likely to get me on board than what we have now.

[onleavedontatme]

There is nothing remotely sane

multiverse war

Hmmm

[oranges]

did they not add medals for heads who escaped when a station goal was built? I thought that was the point, to prove your leadership competence

[Not-Dorsidarf]

BSA should let you fire at the syndicate base for a big fat cargo points reward

Meteor Shield should be upgraded to Station Defense Grid that auto-shoots down every meteor, dust, and simplemob that enters the station z-level

Vault should be what the other guy said

[DemonFiren]

Dorsi, you know it isn't Christmas anymore.

[Davidchan]

If station goals have little to no gain to them, what to do you consider antag goals? Their point is to be a challenge or guiding force to a round, not ever puzzle needs to have a prize at the end.

[DemonFiren]

Your sentence structure only makes partial sense to me, but that's because I just got out of bed anyway.

Antag goals don't need any gain to them. Antags already won the lottery by becoming antags.
Crew need a reason to do shit. If that reason isn't compelling shit won't be done.

[FantasticFwoosh]

Never seen one completed or people widely benefit from it. Flawed & pointless when medbay has autocloners & infinite health chems and as prior posters have mentioned, endgame departments can do the same if not better in a more industrially intensive manner.