/tg/Station 13

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:14 am**

Toolboxes
New sprites or old sprites?
NEW

OLD

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:14 am**

is kevins our new art director

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:14 am**

danno wrote:is kevins our new art director

no i just like old toolboxes better so i'm putting a poll for it.

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:15 am**

huh weird

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:15 am**

the old sprites are literally still in the game golfball

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:16 am**

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:37 am**

Weepo wrote:

how did you forget the old sprites so fast?

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:43 am**

poll is very telling so far

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:44 am**

PKPenguin321 wrote:poll is very telling so far

i'll take the time to make the revert pr when i have actual backing so i can tell cheridan that the players want the old ones.

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:49 am**

kevinz000 wrote:
Weepo wrote:
how did you forget the old sprites so fast?

Did you miss the very obvious thought that they might not have seen the new ones?

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:49 am**

Remie Richards wrote:
kevinz000 wrote:
Weepo wrote:
how did you forget the old sprites so fast?
Did you miss the very obvious thought that they might not have seen the new ones?

yeah I put them in the thread OP just now

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:51 am**

kevinz000 wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:poll is very telling so far
i'll take the time to make the revert pr when i have actual backing so i can tell cheridan that the players want the old ones.

talk to the art director about that one bud

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:55 am**

kneejerk reaction because "muh legacy" is going to prevent this game from ever visually improving

you ever wonder why we only get like 2 semi-active spriters at most at any given time?

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:55 am**

danno wrote:
kevinz000 wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:poll is very telling so far
i'll take the time to make the revert pr when i have actual backing so i can tell cheridan that the players want the old ones.
talk to the art director about that one bud

literally who is that?

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:55 am**

danno wrote:kneejerk reaction because "muh legacy" is going to prevent this game from ever visually improving

you ever wonder why we only get like 2 semi-active spriters at most at any given time?

because all the actually good spriters move on to other projects

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:56 am**

Wjohnston. He makes sprite decisions.

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:58 am**

he also sprites xenomorphs with vaginas

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:59 am**

Oldsprites are precious and I love them.

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:00 am**

but think

you dont have xenomorphs with vaginas on your server

its a excluse /tg/™ feature

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:00 am**

PKPenguin321 wrote:he also sprites xenomorphs with vaginas

You talk a lot of shit for someone who doesn't take the time to create and try to contribute to the game
Wjohnston, Ausops, Nienhaus, etc.
even me
We're all putting in work here, doing our best
what crawled up your ass?

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:03 am**

danno wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:he also sprites xenomorphs with vaginas
You talk a lot of shit for someone who doesn't take the time to create and try to contribute to the game
Wjohnston, Ausops, Nienhaus, etc.
even me
We're all putting in work here, doing our best
what crawled up your ass?

the tiny toolboxes

and i have added things to the game, 119 merged PRs worth

tiny toolboxes suck

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:04 am**

art contributions bean head
The only reason they seem so small is because the game has a terrible problem with everything being fuckhuge

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:05 am**

okay but seriously i like to poke fun at WJ but i dont have personal hatred for him even if it seems that way, we would be nowhere without our spriters

but when the poll looks like the way it does (scroll up, it's like 19 to 3) less than an hour after it's opened and you say "muh sprite manager" i'm not inclined to take you seriously

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:05 am**

I don't take "muh legacy" seriously so I guess we're at an impass

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:06 am**

danno wrote:art contributions bean head
The only reason they seem so small is because the game has a terrible problem with everything being fuckhuge

why are you so assblasted over people wanting old sprites over goonstation copypaste sprites?

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:07 am**

kevinz000 wrote:
danno wrote:art contributions bean head
The only reason they seem so small is because the game has a terrible problem with everything being fuckhuge
why are you so assblasted over people wanting old sprites over goonstation copypaste sprites?

Because new = "progress" obviously

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:11 am**

Unironically yes?
These old sprites are bad.

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:14 am**

danno wrote:Unironically yes?
These old sprites are bad.

if they're so bad why do 20 people and counting prefer them to the new ones

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:15 am**

Because you've grown used to them, and our community is notoriously against change.
People didn't want speed nerf, or removal of stun gloves, etc, etc, etc, etc

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:17 am**

danno wrote:People didn't want speed nerf, or removal of stun gloves, etc, etc, etc, etc

those are things that are actively detrimental to the game
toolbox sprite is just the toolbox sprite so if people want to keep the old one why not let them?

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:18 am**

Because it's ugly and poorly made, and improving the game graphically is just as valid as mechanically

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:19 am**

danno wrote:Because it's ugly and poorly made, and improving the game graphically is just as valid as mechanically

if graphics were just as important as mechanics this game would not still be alive

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:20 am**

Reading comprehension

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:21 am**

the thing is the "improvement" is not preferred by most of the people playing the game, so can you really even call it that

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:22 am**

Yes, the quality of the goon sprites is all but objectively better than the old toolbox codersprites.

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:22 am**

Consider the following

Opinions on sprite work are just opinions, and the argument against these new sprites is literally the same as the argument against the new fire alarm sound

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:22 am**

PKPenguin321 wrote:
danno wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:he also sprites xenomorphs with vaginas
You talk a lot of shit for someone who doesn't take the time to create and try to contribute to the game
Wjohnston, Ausops, Nienhaus, etc.
even me
We're all putting in work here, doing our best
what crawled up your ass?
the tiny toolboxes

and i have added things to the game, 119 merged PRs worth

tiny toolboxes suck

Wait.

119.

911.

PKP DID 911

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:23 am**

objection! this is slander

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:23 am**

he liked the old buildings better

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:25 am**

Realtalk, the autists complaining that the newsprites should be forced onto the server because they're new is just as autistic as the people that screech every time anyone changes anything.

The poll leaves nothing to debate however. Revert it.

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:25 am**

It was never up for debate to begin with

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:26 am**

danno wrote:It was never up for debate to begin with

too late i've already disagreed with you

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:31 am**

danno wrote:The playerbase's opinion is invalid.

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:33 am**

When I see a comparison between old and new sprites, I don't expect the new to look old and worse, and the old to look newer and better.

Keep our sprites. They're larger without being obnoxious, they're clearer, and they're burned into our concious. They also make more sense alongside our Floorbots.

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:34 am**

kevinz000 wrote:
danno wrote:The playerbase's opinion is invalid.

That's not what I'm saying.
A man given the job to make decisions about sprites made a decision about sprites.

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:34 am**

if the size thing is such a problem it's not like that can't even be fixes

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:34 am**

danno wrote:
kevinz000 wrote:
danno wrote:The playerbase's opinion is invalid.
That's not what I'm saying.
A man given the job to make decisions about sprites made a decision about sprites.

a bad one

it happens! people can make mistakes. i handed out a bad ban once before and still regret it

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:35 am**

do not

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:39 am**

>admin
>regrets ban

deadmin now

Posted: **Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:40 am**

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/23995
god fucking damnit.

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