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INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby bman » Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:16 pm #302794

update: this needs a proper name chip in this thread please



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industristation (name not chosen yet calm the tits) is a station (or station design vision/style) that is supposed to make the station dark and atmospheric, as it stands right now it is defined by being cramped and claustrophobic, sort of like a gothic space horror set, machinery, buttons, wires, levers and the such would be in abundance, making the station VERY complex and autistic (in fact, I plan to scrap air alarms and introduce actual real plumbing, wall pipes and stuff like that). of course not ALL of the station will be like this, some rooms will for contrast be clean and lo-fi retro looking.

Oh yeah, lighting will play a HUGE part into the atmosphere of the station, rather than something to enable you to valid better.

the levers and buttons wont be just niknaks, they'll serve functions such as "undocking" separate air bridges, manual bolts and bolt override, plumbing pressure control (valves) and other stuff.

I dont have much sprites for this right now (i got various floor tiles and some code behind them so far), but I'm working on it and hopefully I can finish this project if it doesnt crash and burn in time.


Some might say this is far too different from other maps to work on its own and not as part of a gamemode or even on a separate server. If this comes to fruition i'll probably host it as its own server or something.



The Plan:


Lowpop oriented. Tight-knit crew. Only relevant and essential jobs (2/3 doctors, technicians, pilots(?), a janitor, researchers, and finally coordinators/senior officers. No concept of "departments" but rather the crew works as one large department. No security, the crew works together to ensure their own safety. No headsets! Maybe the senior officer can have a headset but other than that the crew has to use radios to communicate, this gauges paranoia up to 200% since telecommunication isnt easy, and the crew isn't abundant. Gloomy atmospheric visuals, with capitalization on sound design for immersion.

"But this makes antagonists too strong!", you might ask, however, traitors will naturally be re-balanced; They will be forced to:
    Take out people one by one.
    Avoid rousing suspicion.
    Blend in with the crew.
    Hide evidence.

Rather than being unstoppable tanks.
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Re: New design style/map [Industristation (name pending)]

Postby TrustyGun » Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:21 pm #302796

Sprites look good.

Can't really say much for the concept behind those sprites as there is no gameplay shown as of yet, but if you are planning to have a shittload of button, levers and assorted interactables in every room they better be labeled
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Re: New design style/map [Industristation (name pending)]

Postby bman » Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:24 pm #302798

TrustyGun wrote:Sprites look good.

Can't really say much for the concept behind those sprites as there is no gameplay shown as of yet, but if you are planning to have a shittload of button, levers and assorted interactables in every room they better be labeled


it would be devilish if they were not
and very hilarious
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Re: New design style/map [Industristation (name pending)]

Postby leibniz » Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:51 pm #302805

Just make sure to add crushers everywhere
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Re: New design style/map [Industristation (name pending)]

Postby 420weedscopes » Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:36 pm #302816

if it's that level of detail in 32x then yes fucking please
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Re: New design style/map [Industristation (name pending)]

Postby bman » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:06 pm #302820

420weedscopes wrote:if it's that level of detail in 32x then yes fucking please


fuck man dont tempt me to make it 64x64

i dont want to be a madman
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Re: New design style/map [Industristation (name pending)]

Postby danno » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:07 pm #302821

lol do it pussy
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Re: New design style/map [Industristation (name pending)]

Postby bman » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:14 pm #302824

danno wrote:lol do it pussy


i actually would do it but im scared because last time we tried 64x64 there were bugs and memory cloaca leaks and shit
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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [name "poll"]

Postby ShadowDimentio » Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:42 am #303221

I hate the way it looks, and the station getting texturally darker would make it hard as shit for to see.
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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [name "poll"]

Postby bman » Mon Jun 05, 2017 6:06 am #303282

ShadowDimentio wrote:I hate the way it looks, and the station getting texturally darker would make it hard as shit for to see.


not all of it will be steel corridors, some parts will look clean smooth retro-ish lo-fi

however, in maint....
would make it hard as shit for to see.


that's the point
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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [name "poll"]

Postby bman » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:41 pm #303578

I'm trying a new wall design.

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3/4th.

I know of a method to fix the "Can't see north facing gadgets!" dilemma, I'll make the gadgets a layer ABOVE the wall, have them a bit transparent and set their mouse opacity higher than a wall.
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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [name "poll"]

Postby bman » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:43 am #305703

dictating whether side sprites' walls should be lit (white) when power is on or not
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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby Gun Hog » Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:49 pm #305775

HOLY MOLY, that wall looks niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!

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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby ShadowDimentio » Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:02 pm #305840

I hate the way it looks, and why is it brown the station isn't made out of wood or brass or rusted to shit.
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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby bman » Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:05 pm #305845

ShadowDimentio wrote:I hate the way it looks, and why is it brown the station isn't made out of wood or brass or rusted to shit.

the maintenance tunnels are naturally full of pipes, wires, plumbing equipment, welding tanks, and other utility items.
the smooth copper gives it a distinct background that will not pop out under a mess of pipes but also, it wont blend in to the point of being indistinguishable

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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby danno » Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:41 pm #305862

Honestly, I don't like how it looks because I don't really get what you're going for
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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby bman » Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:44 pm #305863

danno wrote:Honestly, I don't like how it looks because I don't really get what you're going for


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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby ShadowDimentio » Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:54 pm #305884

bman wrote:the maintenance tunnels are naturally full of pipes, wires, plumbing equipment, welding tanks, and other utility items.
the smooth copper gives it a distinct background that will not pop out under a mess of pipes but also, it wont blend in to the point of being indistinguishable


What? The station isn't made out of copper, and the pipes don't go along the walls or whatever, they go along the floors. Also there's literally no issue in seeing where the walls are currently, they're impossible to miss. You don't need to paint them in a garish color so they "pop" more.
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"The amount of people is the amount of times the sound is played... on top of itself. And with sybil populations on the shuttle..."
-Remie Richards

"I just spent all fucking day playing fallen london and sunless sea and obsessing over how creepy the fucking dawn machine is and only just clocked now that your avatar is the fucking dawn machine. Nobody vote for this disgusting new sequence blasphemer he wants to kill the gods"
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"You're too late, you will have to fetch them from the top of my tower, built by zombies, slaves, zombie slaves and garitho's will to live!"
-Armhulen

"This is like being cooked alive in a microwave oven which utilises the autistic end of the light spectrum to cook you."
-DarkFNC

"Penguins are the second race to realise 2D>3D"
-Anonmare

"Paul Blart mall cops if they all had ambitions of joining the Waffen-SS"
-Anonmare

"These logs could kill a dragon much less a man"
-Armhulenn

">7 8 6
WHAT MADNESS IS THIS? POETIC ANARCHY!"
-Wyzack

"We didn't kick one goofball out only to have another one come in like a fucking revolving door"
-Kraseo

"There's a difference between fucking faggots and being a fucking faggot."
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"You guys splitting the 20 bucks cost to hire your ex again?"
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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby bman » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:02 pm #305885

ShadowDimentio wrote:
bman wrote:the maintenance tunnels are naturally full of pipes, wires, plumbing equipment, welding tanks, and other utility items.
the smooth copper gives it a distinct background that will not pop out under a mess of pipes but also, it wont blend in to the point of being indistinguishable


What? The station isn't made out of copper, and the pipes don't go along the walls or whatever, they go along the floors. Also there's literally no issue in seeing where the walls are currently, they're impossible to miss. You don't need to paint them in a garish color so they "pop" more.

What? The station isn't made out of copper,

This one is, at least some parts of it.
and the pipes don't go along the walls or whatever, they go along the floors.

This one does, and also, it will have real ventilation shafts rather than meme tubes under floor tiles.
Also there's literally no issue in seeing where the walls are currently, they're impossible to miss. You don't need to paint them in a garish color so they "pop" more.

>metal wall with grey palette
>metal pipes also with a grey palette


You don't need to paint them in a garish color so they "pop" more.

that will not pop out


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Postby MMMiracles » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:03 pm #305886

You should really try building an example scene that'd be a good visual of what you're trying to go for when it comes to an entire station, because while some of these assets may look nice in rarer places like ruins, I can't see them fitting in well on a station design.
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Postby danno » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:33 pm #305903

I don't get the same feeling from your ref image that I do from your sprite but if you like it then you do you
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Postby bman » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:12 pm #305913

danno wrote:I don't get the same feeling from your ref image that I do from your sprite but if you like it then you do you

maybe because it's a singular sprite missing atmospheric lighting, a neighboring environment, animations and the 100 types of details on that image (pipes and machinery)

if you're wondering why i didnt sprite the pipes on the wall itself then that's because everything will be fully functional and not just fluff

you guys dont believe me, this will work out, ill make a "set piece" and show you.
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Postby Professor Hangar » Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:03 am #306089

This kinda thing is why concept art exists, it's best to test out an aesthetic before committing absolutely to it.

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Postby bman » Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:27 am #307721

comfy walls for civilian areas rather than cold rigid steel corridors

not a finished product but let's go overdrive.


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Postby FantasticFwoosh » Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:03 am #307762

Recreate the dining room from the set of "Alien" would be the ultimate scene test.


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Postby bman » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:33 am #310585

wall n floor preview for public halls

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yes yes the lights and maint floors arent right calm your tits it's early preview

also updated op with very very early bikesheddy scrawny thicc-quicc "design document" (lol) sort of deal
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Postby TheSharmat » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:18 am #310601

Looks really good, I like it.

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Postby Gun Hog » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:24 pm #310712

The wells themselves look fantastic, along with that flooring! APC looks out of place on it, though.

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Postby FantasticFwoosh » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:35 pm #310735

The way the light connects to the walls isn't too ugly, id like to see a camera, button & a firelock though in your next picture example.

I personally think the non bordered reinforced wall looks better, unless you want to add a smoothing effect of border pipes or something.


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Postby PKPenguin321 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:55 pm #310854

gives me a sort of starbound/terraria vibe for some reason
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Postby TrustyGun » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:10 pm #310858

FantasticFwoosh wrote:I personally think the non bordered reinforced wall looks better, unless you want to add a smoothing effect of border pipes or something.


Fwoosh is right, the connections between the walls would look better without smoothing.

It looks amazing, imagine box/meta with these walls
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Postby bman » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:25 pm #310864

TrustyGun wrote:
FantasticFwoosh wrote:I personally think the non bordered reinforced wall looks better, unless you want to add a smoothing effect of border pipes or something.


Fwoosh is right, the connections between the walls would look better without smoothing.

It looks amazing, imagine box/meta with these walls


you mean the lines separating the walls???
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Postby Anonmare » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:10 pm #310881

This might sound like a dumb question, but, are the public walls and maintenance walls made from the same material? If so, how does the game differentiate and if I was a crewmember designing a room, could I define if it was a public or maintenance one to get the different visuals?
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Postby FantasticFwoosh » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:33 pm #310888

No the lines seperating the walls from the floor.


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Postby bman » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:40 pm #310896

Anonmare wrote:This might sound like a dumb question, but, are the public walls and maintenance walls made from the same material? If so, how does the game differentiate and if I was a crewmember designing a room, could I define if it was a public or maintenance one to get the different visuals?


all wall girders are made out of aluminum

different materials is what dictates different visuals, normal hall walls are covered in MLI for that smooth white cover.

for outer walls: theorycrafting ahoy:
in this, space dust is much more common and far more dangerous, this makes space even more hazardous, dont worry though, the station will start with material autism but as the engineers try to expand or repair broken rooms they will have to add new layers of kevlar to protect the main hull.
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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby John_Oxford » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:41 pm #310897

how would you go about making objects in 3/4ths that go on walls?

since players aren't in 3/4th's it'd look weird
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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby bman » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:43 pm #310898

John_Oxford wrote:how would you go about making objects in 3/4ths that go on walls?

since players aren't in 3/4th's it'd look weird


i dont understand your question, i'd just put 3/4th objects on the face of the wall?
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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby tacolizard » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:22 pm #311077

did someone say atmosphere?!! well mah boy you'll be in luck if my reverb PR is merged

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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby tacolizard » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:27 pm #311079

also this looks awesome I could help with coding if you need any.

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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby bman » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:45 pm #311099

tacolizard wrote:also this looks awesome I could help with coding if you need any.

i mean if u wanna you can just give me anything semi-interesting and ill slap it in
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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby bman » Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:59 am #311576

new wall design Image

also VOTE between that design, this design, or both.
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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby Gun Hog » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:16 am #311590

THE FOLLOWING IS POSTED ON BMAN'S BEHALF:

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1, 2, or 3?
you can pick more than one (or all 3) and ill use both of them, vote pls causse im seriously contemplating dropping type 2

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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby DireVictory » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:10 am #311608

All look good, 1 and 3 better though.

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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby bman » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:46 am #311616

thanks gunhog, i couldnt post because for some reason my ip got blacklisted when i switched to phone
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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby Anonmare » Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:47 am #311639

I like 1 and 3 better than 2. 1 and 3 look equally as good though. Maybe if you could show us some of its corner sprites, like number 1 does, might help decide.
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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby bman » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:30 am #312607

here's an autistic, prototype, unfinished station layout map

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edit: Ye i have diagonal movement
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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby Anonmare » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:03 pm #312610

>Diagonal movement
What is this sorcery?
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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby bman » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:10 pm #312612

Anonmare wrote:>Diagonal movement
What is this sorcery?

we actually already have it, it just has some issues.
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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby Anonmare » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:39 pm #312616

Also are the radiators for the engine?
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Re: INDUSTRISTATION [pick a name pls]

Postby tacolizard » Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:57 pm #312626

are you gonna put in maint shafts on top of what you have laid out?

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