/tg/Station 13

Do we still need the gateway? I know it's used every now and then for events, but it's otherwise been disabled for as long as I've been here (2 years).

I feel like this is a nice central space on almost all the maps, and could be re-purposed to something else. Right now I'm thinking something tied into the techweb/research system that is open for everyone but I want to make sure this move wouldn't bone downstream servers or something.

Replace it with vr room

VR better gateway every way.

If we remove the gateway completely then either I have to make it again, which I know how to but it's annoying, or I have to be autistic and use a ladder.

VR is not the better gateway if it's an admin event or a special away mission let alone the fact how shitty VR is if someone decides to fuck with the people in VR, which is an intended feature, however it isn't fun if it happens during an admin event.

Ayy Lemoh wrote:If we remove the gateway completely then either I have to make it again, which I know how to but it's annoying, or I have to be autistic and use a ladder.

VR is not the better gateway if it's an admin event or a special away mission let alone the fact how shitty VR is if someone decides to fuck with the people in VR, which is an intended feature, however it isn't fun if it happens during an admin event.

It's almost as if there's a hugbox version already in the code that prevents emagging and deconstruction, especially for admin events. Literally one of the first things I added.

That said, the gateway has its uses and it's a relic that should stay.

Also swarmers use the gateway as the spawnpoint area.

Dax Dupont wrote:It's almost as if there's a hugbox version already in the code that prevents emagging and deconstruction, especially for admin events. Literally one of the first things I added.

What prevents me from pulling a grand theft auto on the VR sleeper, hijacking the avatar, and suiciding as the avatar OR IF THAT ISN'T POSSIBLE then just straight up deleting their avatar which you can do.

Maybe you already made those sleepers safe against that, but I don't really know yet.

#BringBackAwayMissions2k18

Deitus wrote:#BringBackAwayMissions2k18

We did but it was re-removed

Ayy Lemoh wrote:

Dax Dupont wrote:It's almost as if there's a hugbox version already in the code that prevents emagging and deconstruction, especially for admin events. Literally one of the first things I added.

What prevents me from pulling a grand theft auto on the VR sleeper, hijacking the avatar, and suiciding as the avatar OR IF THAT ISN'T POSSIBLE then just straight up deleting their avatar which you can do.

Maybe you already made those sleepers safe against that, but I don't really know yet.

I don't have ultra grief protection no, I can build it in though!
Edit: Made it so only the current user can open it if there's an occupant. Thus nobody can delete the avatar or hijack it in the hugbox version.

keep it

Unless I'm mistaken, the gateway is still used by downstream servers who can active it in their config options.

Okand37 wrote:Unless I'm mistaken, the gateway is still used by downstream servers who can active it in their config options.

It should be up to the downstreams to adjust if they're using the gateway for away missions, not something for upstream to deal with considering it's more or less completely unused past for a single random event (swarmers) or admin events.

MMMiracles wrote:

Okand37 wrote:Unless I'm mistaken, the gateway is still used by downstream servers who can active it in their config options.

It should be up to the downstreams to adjust if they're using the gateway for away missions, not something for upstream to deal with considering it's more or less completely unused past for a single random event (swarmers) or admin events.

If its not hurting anything though, what's the point in removing their convenience just for another empty room?

I think it'd be better just to move it into maintenance if your desire is to replace it with something else if the need to remove it is strongly felt.

Dax Dupont wrote:

Ayy Lemoh wrote:

Dax Dupont wrote:snip

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Maybe you already made those sleepers safe against that, but I don't really know yet.

I don't have ultra grief protection no, I can build it in though!
Edit: Made it so only the current user can open it if there's an occupant. Thus nobody can delete the avatar or hijack it in the hugbox version.

Rip. Swapping avatars with someone and having them fight a clone of themselves was fun. ah well. Good meme memories at least.

Shadowflame909 wrote:

Dax Dupont wrote:

Ayy Lemoh wrote:

Dax Dupont wrote:snip

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Maybe you already made those sleepers safe against that, but I don't really know yet.

I don't have ultra grief protection no, I can build it in though!
Edit: Made it so only the current user can open it if there's an occupant. Thus nobody can delete the avatar or hijack it in the hugbox version.

Rip. Swapping avatars with someone and having them fight a clone of themselves was fun. ah well. Good meme memories at least.

This only applies to the admin spawn hug box variant.

Why not change the gateway into something like the long range portal in Goonstation or modified make a modified version of telescience from Goonstation? You could even have a new round start job called the away team, where they go on away missions, look for rare root, and kick syndicate butt. If you want to keep the away portal then make it something you have to build from R&D or buy from Cargobay, but it should be the most expensive item you can buy.

Dr. Chef wrote:Why not change the gateway into something like the long range portal in Goonstation or modified make a modified version of telescience from Goonstation? You could even have a new round start job called the away team, where they go on away missions, look for rare root, and kick syndicate butt. If you want to keep the away portal then make it something you have to build from R&D or buy from Cargobay, but it should be the most expensive item you can buy.

a new roundstart job that needs an endgame R&D/cargo item to do anything?




sure why not

Not-Dorsidarf wrote:

Dr. Chef wrote:Why not change the gateway into something like the long range portal in Goonstation or modified make a modified version of telescience from Goonstation? You could even have a new round start job called the away team, where they go on away missions, look for rare root, and kick syndicate butt. If you want to keep the away portal then make it something you have to build from R&D or buy from Cargobay, but it should be the most expensive item you can buy.

a new roundstart job that needs an endgame R&D/cargo item to do anything?




sure why not

I was throwing out random ideas. Why not a roundstart job where people are part of a away team that go on adventures, or make it something R&D can build or cargo can buy.

it's called mining, friend

Yeah, if we want to go the "fuck off to strange new lands and explore shit" route we might as well just have multiple mining maps and not have to load an extra Z-level.

JStheguy wrote:Yeah, if we want to go the "fuck off to strange new lands and explore shit" route we might as well just have multiple mining maps and not have to load an extra Z-level.

I like that idea, we could make the mining z level work like the station map and it could change every so many rounds, so one round could have a lava planet and another round there could be a snow mining area with unique fauna. We already have jungle mega fauna, so we could just make a jungle map, but this should belong in its own thread.

Dr. Chef wrote:

JStheguy wrote:Yeah, if we want to go the "fuck off to strange new lands and explore shit" route we might as well just have multiple mining maps and not have to load an extra Z-level.

I like that idea, we could make the mining z level work like the station map and it could change every so many rounds, so one round could have a lava planet and another round there could be a snow mining area with unique fauna. We already have jungle mega fauna, so we could just make a jungle map, but this should belong in its own thread.

i had a tiny bit of this coded but didn't have the sprites for snow mobs or megafauna.

Armhulen wrote:

Dr. Chef wrote:

JStheguy wrote:Yeah, if we want to go the "fuck off to strange new lands and explore shit" route we might as well just have multiple mining maps and not have to load an extra Z-level.

I like that idea, we could make the mining z level work like the station map and it could change every so many rounds, so one round could have a lava planet and another round there could be a snow mining area with unique fauna. We already have jungle mega fauna, so we could just make a jungle map, but this should belong in its own thread.

i had a tiny bit of this coded but didn't have the sprites for snow mobs or megafauna.

I made a separate thread for discussing mining map ideas. This would be a massive project if coders/mappers decide to take on such a project, but I think it is a nice idea myself.

we have gateway disabled because of community issues

just because we dont use it doesnt mean people who use tg code do not

cocothegogo wrote:we have gateway disabled because of community issues

just because we dont use it doesnt mean people who use tg code do not

yeah but downstreams usually run their own modified maps anyway

JStheguy wrote:Yeah, if we want to go the "fuck off to strange new lands and explore shit" route we might as well just have multiple mining maps and not have to load an extra Z-level.

Someone could always make a z-level for the necropolis.

bruh, this thread is over a year old.

Plus the gateways operational again, so it doesn't even make sense.

At the time I was trying to make dynamic map loading based off the station goal. It mostly worked but then my branch got stale and I fucked up git things so I quit working on it.