(Poll) Crew transfer shuttles

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Should this be merged?

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Revise (Post Below)
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(Poll) Crew transfer shuttles

Post by paprika » #14874

https://github.com/NTStation/NTstation13/pull/733

Basically

- After 2 hours a vote is auto-created for a crew transfer shuttle
- Every hour subsequent to it the vote is re-created
- Identical to emergency shuttle except it has flavor text
- Admins can make the votes
- Doesn't happen during malf/rev/blob/etc (those rounds shouldn't go for 2 hours anyway)

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Re: (Poll) Crew transfer shuttles

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Re: (Poll) Crew transfer shuttles

Post by paprika » #14901

normal circumstances where the emergency shuttle wouldn't come, neither does the crew transfer shuttle.
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Re: (Poll) Crew transfer shuttles

Post by Kot » #15178

I voted reject. I'm only one who voted reject.

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Re: (Poll) Crew transfer shuttles

Post by Lovecraft » #15182

Change it to one hour and yes.
Or 1 hour and 30 minutes.
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Re: (Poll) Crew transfer shuttles

Post by paprika » #15229

Kot wrote:I voted reject. I'm only one who voted reject.

D-do i hate fun?
You voted reject without saying why you reject it, so yeah, you hate fun.
Lovecraft wrote:Change it to one hour and yes.
Or 1 hour and 30 minutes.
Too short of a timer, sorry. Gotta allow admins some wiggle room if they want to do longer events. This is for lowpop so they don't have to have the captain's ID with them in order to restart the round.
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Re: (Poll) Crew transfer shuttles

Post by Kot » #15237

paprika wrote:You voted reject without saying why you reject it, so yeah, you hate fun.
Because it's
paprika wrote:Identical to emergency shuttle except it has flavor text.
It also allows "i ded restart pls" and general OOCkly shitfuckery, because it's "semi-ic". If you want your flavor texts so much add a possibility to choose between emergency and crew transfer shuttle on regular call. And because, if anything, 2 hours is too low. And i hate fun, that's why.

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Paprka you aren't savior of lowpop because, suprisingly, lowpop doesn't mean idiot people and then can just hack into captain's office and call the shuttle. And it they're all dead or braindead (?) shuttle gets called anyway.
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Re: (Poll) Crew transfer shuttles

Post by paprika » #15243

I'm pretty sure the vote speaks for itself as it being something that is necessary and something people want.

How does it allow "i ded restart pls" again? If someone murderbones and the shuttle hasn't been called for 2 hours then yeah the server is going to empty without this automated vote or an admin interacting, and arty lowpop doesn't always have an admin to call the shuttle or something.

Plus, this allows a general OOC consensus on whether or not people want the round restarted rather than relying on an incompetent (or lacking) heads of staff or people fighting over getting the shuttle called.
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paprika wrote:I'm pretty sure the vote speaks for itself as it being something that is necessary and something people want.
As someone wise (or dumb, i don't really remember) said, five minute talk with average voter is best argument against democracy (or something like that), so uh, well, >people.
paprika wrote: How does it allow "i ded restart pls" again? If someone murderbones and the shuttle hasn't been called for 2 hours then yeah the server is going to empty without this automated vote or an admin interacting, and arty lowpop doesn't always have an admin to call the shuttle or something.

If someone murderbones and shuttle is not called for 2 hours, no admin interacting, no new people getting in and calling the shuttle (while the other server is getting steady 40-60 people with admins), then the problem doesn't lie within the game, it lies within damn community that allows for that.
paprika wrote: Plus, this allows a general OOC consensus on whether or not people want the round restarted rather than relying on an incompetent (or lacking) heads of staff or people fighting over getting the shuttle called.

Regular restart vote was a general OOC consenus too... remind me why this one got disabled?
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Re: (Poll) Crew transfer shuttles

Post by Steelpoint » #15267

It was Winston Churchill that said that.

Anyway, I like this idea as its a IC way to end a drawn out round, also unlike a Vote to Restart this still forces a Shuttle to arrive which takes time.
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Post by Kot » #15268

It's more like OOC way though.

Also, finally, if we are going to implement this, the two hour time is too long... but shorter time is too short. If round is dead 30 minutes (totally possible) in, you have to wait 1,5 hour to vote. A long fucking time.
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Post by Steelpoint » #15269

Just make the vote activatable at the 30 minute mark with the ability for a admin to override it.
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Post by Kot » #15273

Also, does it count "did not vote" as no? Because if it does so, we might actually never get crew transfer shuttles.
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Re: (Poll) Crew transfer shuttles

Post by NikNakFlak » #15288

Make it 100% IC and be callable from a comms console. Make the button only appear or usable after a certain amount of time.
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Post by Neerti » #15323

What happens if the guy murderbones/etc and crew transfer is called and gets recalled (assuming that's possible)?
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Re: (Poll) Crew transfer shuttles

Post by paprika » #15368

NikNakFlak wrote:Make it 100% IC and be callable from a comms console. Make the button only appear or usable after a certain amount of time.
I only didn't add this because on bay it caused a lot of conflict so they removed it. Aka, what's to stop a head from calling a transfer shuttle 40 minutes in just because he's bored? It's IC!

It's a SEMI IC vote for a reason now, that's the way it is on bay, and that's the way it's going to be here, because without it being a general OOC vote people will cause IC conflict over it. If most of the people IN THE SERVER decide that it's time to end the round, it's time to end the round. That's how it goes.
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Re: (Poll) Crew transfer shuttles

Post by Kot » #15398

Neerti wrote:What happens if the guy murderbones/etc and crew transfer is called and gets recalled (assuming that's possible)?
Proably not, considering it's actually a restart vote with shuttle.
If it's possible then coders screwed up.
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