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Changeling

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 11:40 pm
by Skorvold
So, these things suck people dry of their DNA or, in recent cases, don't. They just sting them, like a wasp that doesn't hurt. So, my thoughts were we should re-evaluate changeling and look at it in a RPish kind of way.

Changelings are aliem creatures that can take the DNA of any and all creatures, it would make sense that in changeling culture. That there would be different broods/hiveminds/families/cults of changelings, some would be put towards more deception and stealth, others towards straight up combat. So, in the evolution menu instead of getting your 5 points that you spend on each individual sting you would choose a bundle worth 4 of those points leaving you an extra point to get yourself whatever sting you want along with the bundle. Absorbing people should be encouraged, I know it's shitty to have your miner bro turn on you and be out of the round forever, but death is what makes the round go on. Anyway, back to the bundled stings. Choosing a strain/sting bundle depends on your objectives, combat oriented changelings that have Para+Arm Blade+Whatever else would be in that package would have much much higher risk objectives like assassinating multiple people.

So, whaddya think?

Re: Changeling

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 11:46 pm
by Stickymayhem
I feel like adding more options is better than preset load outs.

Really the issue is the conflict between the uninteresting, weak ass DNA Sting and the round killing absorb. There is no middle ground between the two extremes that anyone has been able to find yet, and that is the issue at the heart of changeling.

RP wise is a nice idea but I don't think that should influence gameplay to such an extent.

Re: Changeling

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 1:23 am
by Lovecraft
What if we added more options, but we re-did the presentation of the option select screen?
I had something like this in mind.
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Drop down menus for easier organization, better than just slapping more and more options on a list.

Re: Changeling

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 3:48 am
by Incomptinence
Of the sneaky impotent stuff I always liked voice changer and transform sting for causing chaos and framing people. Sadly speech bubbles on top of those stupid tracking links AIs get outing voice changing near instantly in addition to admins insisting that the meta of putting a failed channel tag in your speech was unforgivable that never took off.

Without that there isn't really a pay off to being so drat sneaky. I miss killer lings deeply and want them back.

Re: Changeling

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 6:20 am
by Psyentific
Anything that takes a player out of the round with little to no chance for him to counter it or retaliate is bad - It's the reason why Parasting was bad, it's the reason Cryosting is less-bad (but still pretty bad), it's the reason Parapen C4 is so frowned upon.

Re: Changeling

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 6:32 am
by paprika
mfw when waiting for changeling only rounds to end

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Re: Changeling

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 3:17 pm
by Remie Richards
I Point you here https://github.com/NTStation/NTstation13/pull/448

While I haven't updated it remotely for a while, all it needs is a few tests locally and we can get it Merged.
A (forum) Poll was held with 100% (last I checked) votes for Yes.

(I also have plans for Changeling beyond this too, so yeah.)

Re: Changeling

Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:35 pm
by Gun Hog
I will happily test it more for you when you post your next update for it, RR!

Re: Changeling

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 1:06 pm
by Remie Richards
Gun Hog wrote:I will happily test it more for you when you post your next update for it, RR!
Sounds good, You're testing is always of a high standard.