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Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 11:39 pm**

It's an item that's just begging to be spammed, and often is used that way.
I've never seen it used or talked about in a positive light.
Was just curious if others felt the same, and if public outcry was great enough to get the thing gone.
I've added the "replace it with x" option to maybe toss around a few ideas of non-spammy items that could be added in it's stead.

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 11:40 pm**

It exists solely to annoy people, and it's very good at doing that. Make like kebab and remove.

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 11:43 pm**

All the times I rolled chaplain I put it in good use, but, it is kind of impartial starting this thread and promoting it when someone in the current shift is abusing it as outlined. (take note that I pressed summit only when the round ended, as to not icky oocky). Fortunadly, the chaplain taht was offending us ended being set on fire, tased and handcuffed.

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 11:45 pm**

Facundo wrote:All the times I rolled chaplain I put it in good use, but, it is kind of impartial starting this thread and promoting it when someone in the current shift is abusing it as outlined. (take note that I pressed summit only when the round ended, as to not icky oocky). Fortunadly, the chaplain taht was offending us ended being set on fire, tased and handcuffed.

Yikes, good call. Should have waited.
Oh well, round's finished by now and I didn't reference it.

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 11:48 pm**

I've seen it used alot more as a grief instrument than a useful one. It needs a way longer cool down than it does currently.

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 11:49 pm**

The problem is, even if I really like the smoke spell, you are sadly right, most of the chaplains just use the spell and fucking spam it, specially in the shuttle, before it even takes of. So... there is no denying you are right in asking for a removal, but, I just don't want it to go, is... fun.

fuck, it will be removed.

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 11:50 pm**

maybe replacing it with something else? even something from Neerti's new mode?

Posted: **Sat May 17, 2014 12:15 am**

why do you hate fun
i've never seen this used wrongly

Posted: **Sat May 17, 2014 12:36 am**

we can always make it a nerfed version or something

(we should make it so the chaplain can put in a hex code of the color he wants the smoke to be too)

Posted: **Sat May 17, 2014 12:40 am**

that's kind of pushing it
>hexcode for polyacid smoke color
>hexcode for chloral smoke color

Posted: **Sat May 17, 2014 12:48 am**

and? it's not like it'll actually do anything other then color the smoke, and also there wouldn't be the bubbling sound or the text entry about the reagents bubbling so people would know it was just a smoke spell

Posted: **Sat May 17, 2014 5:27 am**

danno wrote:why do you hate fun
i've never seen this used wrongly

You clearly haven't played enough rounds, then. More than half the chaplains I see just spam smoke.

Posted: **Sat May 17, 2014 6:05 am**

Give it a huge cooldown, so chaplains can still use it for gimmicks and it doesn't become an incentive for people to chose a certain job because of any unique powers that it gets.

Posted: **Sat May 17, 2014 6:11 am**

Wait

What?

Chaplain? Smoke spell?

Posted: **Sat May 17, 2014 7:14 am**

Kelenius wrote:Wait

What?

Chaplain? Smoke spell?

Metamap - The chaplain gets a book of the dank arts, which lets him learn Smoke. Shitty chaplains spam it.

Posted: **Sat May 17, 2014 4:03 pm**

Still don't see the problem here
and don't even say I haven't played a shitload of rounds with the smoke spell on the map
I've definitely played more than you, kiddo. It was put on the map before you came back.

Posted: **Sat May 17, 2014 10:37 pm**

Psyentific wrote:
danno wrote:why do you hate fun
i've never seen this used wrongly
You clearly haven't played enough rounds, then. More than half the chaplains I see just spam smoke.

are you doing that thing where you act like people who disagree with you are ignorant again

Posted: **Sat May 17, 2014 11:05 pm**

Gonna make it more secure so it isn't grey tided through the maint wall

Posted: **Sat May 17, 2014 11:16 pm**

paprika wrote:Gonna make it more secure so it isn't grey tided through the maint wall

If the chaplain has a locked locker, put it in that. Can you make it spawn in the chaplain's satchel instead?

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2014 12:52 am**

How about coding a special version that doesn't cause suffucation/coughing?

I think what annoys most people is the coughing effect that causes you to drop things and the chaplains that use it next to officers arresting someone.

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2014 2:58 am**

Why doesn't tokiko just be our ideas guy for everything instead

I'll see what I can do about making a special smoke but you'd have to make a special chem reaction just for the smoke spell PLUS make an all new book and everything since the current smoke book/spell is actually the wizard's so

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2014 6:35 am**

Just make it a child of the normal spell, like how wraiths have a nerfed jaunt.

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2014 9:07 pm**

It's not really the same, doesn't smoke cause coughing inherently? Doesn't the spell just spawn some smoke? Wouldn't you have to make a whole new or child 'coughless smoke' for the spell to work?

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2014 9:21 pm**

There's a child of smoke called 'harmless'. Maybe you could start there?

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2014 9:59 pm**

you could make smoke a child of a new version of smoke that doesnt cause coughing, and have the real smoke add coughing

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2014 11:17 pm**

Oh fuck no I'm not doing it myself I don't consider this to be a problem worth coding personally. A chaplain spamming cough smoke is a perfect excuse to rev up that stun baton.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 12:54 am**

paprika wrote:Oh fuck no I'm not doing it myself I don't consider this to be a problem worth coding personally. A chaplain spamming cough smoke is a perfect excuse to rev up that stun baton.

Problem - You tase him, he spams smoke, now you drop your baton and you can't see the baton because lolsmoke.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 2:17 am**

I can attest to this, smoke makes it retard hard to try arrest them, you drop your weapon, drop your cuffs, and the smoke lasts long enough that they can keep it up literally non stop.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 3:23 am**

Psyentific wrote: Problem - You tase him, he spams smoke, now you drop your baton and you can't see the baton because lolsmoke.

Wrong, I turned my internals on to counter it as soon as I saw the smoke and now my baton is painted red and chaplain brains.

Seriously, you guys don't wear your gas mask 24/7? Are you casuals or just new to this shitcurity thing?

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 3:45 am**

paprika wrote:
Psyentific wrote: Problem - You tase him, he spams smoke, now you drop your baton and you can't see the baton because lolsmoke.
Wrong, I turned my internals on to counter it as soon as I saw the smoke and now my baton is painted red and chaplain brains.

Seriously, you guys don't wear your gas mask 24/7? Are you casuals or just new to this shitcurity thing?

Cohiba Robusto cigar is the master race, I bet you don't even secberet you fucking scrub.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 10:07 pm**

>sec beret
>not breaking into the captain's office and getting the SWAT helmet for maximum tryhard

pls.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 10:21 pm**

>Not asking the captain nicely for his SWAT helmet since he doesn't use it 9/10 times

Posted: **Tue May 20, 2014 12:19 pm**

Yah, thats they thing. If people just ASK instead of committing crimes...

Posted: **Tue May 20, 2014 10:59 pm**

AseaHeru wrote:Yah, thats they thing. If people just ASK instead of committing crimes...

Can I have your spare ID, cap'n?

Posted: **Wed May 21, 2014 12:37 pm**

That ones the sort of thing that would get denied.

Posted: **Wed May 21, 2014 10:35 pm**

AseaHeru wrote:That ones the sort of thing that would get denied.

And then I would rob you.

Posted: **Thu May 22, 2014 12:15 pm**

And then you would get permaed and probably executed.

But thank you for the trial that round.

Posted: **Thu May 22, 2014 10:40 pm**

Never get enough trials... also I get away with robbing a lot.

Posted: **Fri May 23, 2014 6:19 am**

AseaHeru wrote:And then you would get permaed and probably executed.

But thank you for the trial that round.

If anything the captain should be perma'd and executed demoted for not securing the spare ID from roundstart emaggers/telescientists/greytides.

Usually the guy who steals the ID ends up being a far more competent Captain anyways.

Posted: **Fri May 23, 2014 7:08 am**

iamgoofball wrote: Usually the guy who steals the ID ends up being a far more competent Captain anyways.

Posted: **Fri May 23, 2014 12:11 pm**

Hey, I lock that shit up.

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