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HoP having AA

Postby WineAllWine » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:25 pm #501169

Hello,

I'm a fairly new player on Terry, been for a couple of months now (since about the Ssethtide but didnt come from that). I was HoP yesterday and a Captain threatened to have me killed for my AA which has never happened before... is that something people expect? In my experience Captains have normally been happy for a HoP to have AA to help them out. Obviously in this case I followed my captains orders.

For reference this was the captain who gave a 5 paragraph mega-law to the AI then got killed by a wizard-mouse.

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Re: HoP having AA

Postby Lumbermancer » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:29 pm #501172

If AA HoP enters the armory he eats a laser beam.
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Re: HoP having AA

Postby WineAllWine » Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:32 pm #501173

well yeah without permission. I'll even just ask for some HUDglasses if theres a HoS or Warden available

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Re: HoP having AA

Postby Gigapuddi420 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:18 pm #501183

It's well known the Head of Personnel will give themselves all access, if the Captain wants to be anal about access he's not completely wrong to get on your case about it. This goes double if you enter some other departments area and you're not the acting Captain. Just because you have all access doesn't mean the CE or the HoS will appreciate you being in their department without asking. The classic gamer moment is when the HoP helps themselves to security equipment or god forbid, the armory and the warden decides to just shoot them in the face.
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Re: HoP having AA

Postby John_Oxford » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:29 pm #501184

HoP's can be antagonists.

It's culturally accepted for them to have all access, it's not culturally accepted for them to take full advantage of that all access. ( entering the armory )

I've never seen a circumstance where the HOP wasn't allowed in every department, outside of them being shit to the head of the department or doing shit that they aren't supposed to or aren't wanted to.
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Re: HoP having AA

Postby cacogen » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:41 pm #501187

that was just a shit captain. most people don't care and expect it. i usually forget when i'm hop though (which has consequences when it's cult or nuke ops or i have to secure the disk)

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Re: HoP having AA

Postby WineAllWine » Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:00 pm #501194

cacogen wrote:that was just a shit captain. most people don't care and expect it. i usually forget when i'm hop though (which has consequences when it's cult or nuke ops or i have to secure the disk)



Yeah this is kind of what I assumed, like if I was fucking with the SM or toxins or armory then fair enough but I hadnt abused any access. Thank guys!


EDIT: I honestly think this was a case of a new captain having power go to his head.

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Re: HoP having AA

Postby Lumbermancer » Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:16 pm #501197

cacogen wrote:that was just a shit captain

You mean good captain.
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Re: HoP having AA

Postby NikNakFlak » Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:59 pm #501205

Just make an all access ID and then use it to give your original ID more access. Then it looks like you don't have more access according to the HUDs. If he catches you in places you shouldn't have access to. Ignore him and yeet away lol
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Re: HoP having AA

Postby Qbmax32 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:07 pm #501208

Just don’t come crying to me when you waltz into a secure area and get dumpstered. Access =/= right to be there
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Re: HoP having AA

Postby CPTANT » Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:50 pm #501211

For reference this was the captain who gave a 5 paragraph mega-law to the AI then got killed by a wizard-mouse.


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Re: HoP having AA

Postby Anuv » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:08 am #501337

Nothing better than pumping buckshot into HoPcurity in the armory
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Re: HoP having AA

Postby wesoda25 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:10 am #501338

Theres nothing more that I hate than HOPs who give themselves access/ play hopcurity. As HOP I don't even make myself a new ID, if I lose mine then I don't deserve to be HOP.

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Re: HoP having AA

Postby Hathkar » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:34 am #501343

Just remove HoP and give his "duties" to the captain. Most HoPs are garbage, antag HoPs are even worse.
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Re: HoP having AA

Postby Shadowflame909 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:10 am #501357

Hathkar is on the nose of this issue. Captains are bored chucklefucks that call the shuttle because I ded. Make the Quartermaster a head of staff and remove the HoP.
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Re: HoP having AA

Postby Boris » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:47 am #501360

Qbmax32 wrote:Just don’t come crying to me when you waltz into a secure area and get dumpstered. Access =/= right to be there

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Re: HoP having AA

Postby Anonmare » Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:25 pm #501519

Shadowflame909 wrote:Hathkar is on the nose of this issue. Captains are bored chucklefucks that call the shuttle because I ded. Make the Quartermaster a head of staff and remove the HoP.

I would sooner see /tg/ become a full-blown furry server with no human race whatsoever than make the QM a head of staff
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Re: HoP having AA

Postby MMMiracles » Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:42 pm #501522

Anonmare wrote:
Shadowflame909 wrote:Hathkar is on the nose of this issue. Captains are bored chucklefucks that call the shuttle because I ded. Make the Quartermaster a head of staff and remove the HoP.

I would sooner see /tg/ become a full-blown furry server with no human race whatsoever than make the QM a head of staff

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Re: HoP having AA

Postby Anonmare » Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:45 pm #501523

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Shadowflame909 wrote:Hathkar is on the nose of this issue. Captains are bored chucklefucks that call the shuttle because I ded. Make the Quartermaster a head of staff and remove the HoP.

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Postby Farquaar » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:39 pm #501532

Anonmare wrote:I would sooner see /tg/ become a full-blown furry server with no human race whatsoever than make the QM a head of staff

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Re: HoP having AA

Postby SaveVatznick » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:24 pm #501535

In the rare times I play jobs that can do something about it, I treat HoP's with all access the same as I see assistants with all access. Unless they've got a compelling reason for having it besides "Cmon man, this is what I play the job for, to steal all access" I take it away once any of my bosses approve.
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Re: HoP having AA

Postby Recurracy » Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:57 pm #501555

hops thinking they own the station should get shot

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Re: HoP having AA

Postby Karp » Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:46 am #501633

NikNakFlak wrote:Just make an all access ID and then use it to give your original ID more access. Then it looks like you don't have more access according to the HUDs. If he catches you in places you shouldn't have access to. Ignore him and yeet away lol


a trick is to set your role to captain, then go to "custom" and edit the jobrole name back to your original role. The hud is based off of jobrole name and selecting captain just gives you fast all access to revert it with. It's hilarious how often you can get away with being an all access assistant/cargo tech/scientist with that trick.

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Re: HoP having AA

Postby terranaut » Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:28 am #501643

Karp wrote:
NikNakFlak wrote:Just make an all access ID and then use it to give your original ID more access. Then it looks like you don't have more access according to the HUDs. If he catches you in places you shouldn't have access to. Ignore him and yeet away lol


a trick is to set your role to captain, then go to "custom" and edit the jobrole name back to your original role. The hud is based off of jobrole name and selecting captain just gives you fast all access to revert it with. It's hilarious how often you can get away with being an all access assistant/cargo tech/scientist with that trick.

how far have we sunk that this is a trick and not the standard way of doing it
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Re: HoP having AA

Postby wesoda25 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:44 pm #501651

It is the standard way they just phrased it weird

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Re: HoP having AA

Postby cedarbridge » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:50 pm #501661

People regularly mistake "having access" with "being welcome/allowed to enter" that same place to which they've gained access.

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Re: HoP having AA

Postby BeeSting12 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:26 pm #501671

Karp wrote:
NikNakFlak wrote:Just make an all access ID and then use it to give your original ID more access. Then it looks like you don't have more access according to the HUDs. If he catches you in places you shouldn't have access to. Ignore him and yeet away lol


a trick is to set your role to captain, then go to "custom" and edit the jobrole name back to your original role. The hud is based off of jobrole name and selecting captain just gives you fast all access to revert it with. It's hilarious how often you can get away with being an all access assistant/cargo tech/scientist with that trick.

thats why i always throw assistants with suspected all access into doors to see if they have it. once i hit every door in the station i let them go.
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Re: HoP having AA

Postby Ayy Lemoh » Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:49 pm #501675

BeeSting12 wrote:thats why i always throw assistants with suspected all access into doors to see if they have it. once i hit every door in the station i let them go.

I'm pretty sure if they can't open the gateway then they can't open the armory. Throwing them into a door that people normally don't ask for (like curator office) seem like a really good tell without investigating each and every door.

Hell, just throw them at the armory door instead. That'll be good enough

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Re: HoP having AA

Postby terranaut » Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:10 am #501767

Ayy Lemoh wrote:Hell, just throw them at the armory door instead. That'll be good enough

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Postby peoplearestrange » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:49 pm #502798

Simplest explanation to any of this:

Access is NOT equal to permission. And entering anywhere without permission will have consequences, from being removed to getting a laser to the face.
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Re: HoP having AA

Postby Chaznoodles » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:58 pm #502800

If you've illegally modified your ID to give yourself access to places you shouldn't have, and you wander into the Armoury while I'm warden, you'll get the good old shotgun-meatspike wombo combo. Access does not equal permission.

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Postby Ayy Lemoh » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:28 pm #502802

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Ayy Lemoh wrote:Hell, just throw them at the armory door instead. That'll be good enough

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Postby cedarbridge » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:20 pm #502892

peoplearestrange wrote:Simplest explanation to any of this:

Access is NOT equal to permission. And entering anywhere without permission will have consequences, from being removed to getting a laser to the face.

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Re: HoP having AA

Postby ThanatosRa » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:36 am #502955

In my day, as an old HoP main, it was assumed that we always had all access. But we weren't rude about it. The Good HoP uses his powers for good rather than personal gain. Evil.

With all access comes great responsibility.


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Re: HoP having AA

Postby Yakumo_Chen » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:08 am #502982

wesoda25 wrote:Theres nothing more that I hate than HOPs who give themselves access/ play hopcurity. As HOP I don't even make myself a new ID, if I lose mine then I don't deserve to be HOP.


Take that a step further, only true HoPs never, ever leave their office out of the sheer fear that a tide of assistants angry that you had the gall to present them with "paperwork" as if this were a "roleplaying game" will be waiting outside the door to lynch them and/or steal their ID and/or murder Ian. You're head of the service department, just yell at them to bring you food and cargo crates!
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Re: HoP having AA

Postby Calomel » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:36 am #502985

I mean, isn't HoP in charge of overseeing Cargo and all of Service?
An HoP should ahve all teh acess to correctly oversee allthsoe areas (Hydroponics and such), to ensure Botany isn't making explosive melon bombs, or the cook sacrificing
half the station's living members to the gibber lord, or anything like that, so he DOES have to be in more places than just the HoP line to do his job effectively.
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Re: HoP having AA

Postby ThanatosRa » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:59 pm #503029

Just stick around your office and do your job until the initial rush is over then abuse your all access.


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Re: HoP having AA

Postby Dax Dupont » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:10 am #503076

I usually grab the cooler looking body armor as the hop and give them my old one.


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