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Just make the materials obtainable from all items the same as what it takes to build with a max efficiency auto/protolathe. (if the recycler is maxed, if not then wastage)
The you can look at lower tier lathes as inefficiency, or wastage. Like how Eve handles manufacturing.

Basically, A dildo cannon might have a base material requirement of 100 metal.
The level of manipulator in the lathe would add a multiplier to the mat requirements (t4 would be 1, t3 might be 1.1, etc etc), to give you something like what we got now in term of the cost of making shit, and upgrades.
(ie: base mat cost X multiplier = required minerals)
Then with the recycler, the manipulator in that would have a multiplier for getting minerals back, with t4 again being 1, but with the lower tiers being lower (0.9 etc etc).
(base mat cost X multiplier = recycled minerals)

This would mean if you have maxed proto/autolathes AND recycler, you'd get 100% return on materials, while anything less would result in lost materials either in manufacturing or recycling.

Lumi you forget that by upgrading the lathes you can make stuff cheaper

So theoretically you could make infinite resources

ShadowDimentio wrote:Lumi you forget that by upgrading the lathes you can make stuff cheaper

So theoretically you could make infinite resources

Read what I said yo.

You'd need to link the recycler directly to the Protolathe, as not all objects have mineral costs of 2000 (or multiples).
e.g. A weapon of 5850 metal/3200 silver/300 diamond would return two sheets of metal and one of silver (=4000, 2000, 0), unless linked to a Protolathe to not waste the extra minerals (the 1850/1200/300).

Wait, you can do that kinda crap?

Just make the recycler store internally anything less then a whole sheet, then poop it out when it reaches a full sheet.
ie: if an item recycles for 1.1 sheets of metal, each one will poop out one sheet, and on the 10th, you'd get 2.

This would also remove the need to blacklist all sorts of random small shit, since it wouldn't be abusable anymore.

lumipharon wrote:Just make the recycler store internally anything less then a whole sheet, then poop it out when it reaches a full sheet.
ie: if an item recycles for 1.1 sheets of metal, each one will poop out one sheet, and on the 10th, you'd get 2.

This would also remove the need to blacklist all sorts of random small shit, since it wouldn't be abusable anymore.

This is already the case. Please see: https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-statio ... ntainer.dm and https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-statio ... ecycler.dm for proof.

One can simply use a Destructive Analyzer as well, if only a small quantity of items need processing. The DA, like the crusher, extracts minerals, except that it feeds them directly to a linked protolathe instead of dropping sheets.

The research analyzer can display what mineral types are present in an item, allowing a scientist to determine what is worth recycling and what is not.

Not sure if anyone else said it, but I miss customizable cyborg skins. Like when you picked your module like sec vorg you could be a humanoid robocop or the current secborg. I severely miss the techpriest enginseer engineering borg.

I miss being riotgear secborg and being mistaken for human.

Borg skins at all were great.

An admin gave me an alt skin as a borg once. You know, the one that looks like a flying saucer (think Bay still uses them). Why were they removed anyhow? Too much fun?

I think they might still be in the code, unless they got removed by someone for reasons like "reducing bloat" or whatever.

Theres just no legitimate way to get it in-game without var editing. Its a pretty simple var edit too. I used to slap my carp skin on engiborgs back before I forgot I actually made that thing.

Diagonal movement

seriously who the fuck removed going through flaps in a box

it was hilarious, made sense, and creative, and I would really like to see it return

Why would anyone remove that

Do coders seek to edit out fun?

Paprika did and they were banned thankfully

Ban coders 2k15

Uplinks being href spoofable to spawn anything in the entire game.

Traitor Round? I am thinking more of a NARSIE HAS RISEN!

when carp used to follow the ai eye you could drag your eye around the whole map and collect a swarm of carp and decimate anyone, best malf strat around.

ERP code.

April 2013 best month on /tg/

I miss things every other code base down stream readds to the game.

Being serious I slightly miss the dermal patch for the HoS, its not as bad now since the Beret is more pleasing piece of headware but I still liked the appearance.

I get the why of it being removed, but really, if you're going to kill the HoS it's safe to assume he's armored anyway so it's not that big of a deal that the patch is hard to see on a person.

Anonmare wrote:An admin gave me an alt skin as a borg once. You know, the one that looks like a flying saucer (think Bay still uses them). Why were they removed anyhow? Too much fun?

Might of been me, I requested a custom drone sprite a while back. I still have it, it wasnt in the game, I just put it in for the round via VV

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Whoisthere wrote:[center]BRING BACK NTSL

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I do actually miss NTSL, party for the stupid clown pranks, but mostly because of MAGNI's awesome use of it as an AI. Played that role so damn well you could almost believe they were an omnipotent AI.

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Still in the game.

It doesn't do anything anymore.

Allegedly it used to do something.

DemonFiren wrote:It doesn't do anything anymore.

Allegedly it used to do something.

[citation needed]

Hence, "allegedly".

DemonFiren wrote:Hence, """"""""""""""""""allegedly""""""""""""""".

Suddenly the BBC

peoplearestrange wrote:

DemonFiren wrote:Hence, """"""""""""""""""allegedly""""""""""""""".

Suddenly the BBC

There's a reason I used that word. If it had been something I know with certainty I would not have used it.

peoplearestrange wrote:

DemonFiren wrote:Hence, """"""""""""""""""allegedly""""""""""""""".

Suddenly the BBC

Other colour phones are available.

LiamLime wrote:

peoplearestrange wrote:

DemonFiren wrote:Hence, """"""""""""""""""allegedly""""""""""""""".

Suddenly the BBC

Other colour phones are available.

...aw fuck, I didn't get a meme, did I.

Being able to click almost anywhere on one of the backpack/belt slots to store items. It was convenient, time saving... I doubt it was removed on purpose, but I still miss it. I know there's ctrl+e, but I am an arrow keys fag.

Being able to grab cyborgs.

Fast janicart.

Being able to disposal Cyborgs
Quick-tabling that lasts long enough for you to strip a headset
Cutting bolts with an e-sword

bugs, or accidental gameplay improvements?

I miss crusher abuse and FOURTY DURANDS.
You could make absolutely anything with it, it was a magical time with mechs galore.

EmGee wrote:I miss crusher abuse and FOURTY DURANDS.
You could make absolutely anything with it, it was a magical time with mechs galore.

That time when Science would turtle up for 40 minutes and emerge with phazons, durands, x-rays, NVGS and SMGs. What a time it was to be a scientist and miners falling into depression in the bar.

Yup, bring back the old crusher.

It was glorious.

It was especially glorious if you were Cargo and stole a sci setup.

What, did the thing give out more resources that you put in it or something?

If you fed it with micro-manips or matter bins, it sure did.

And different kinds of resources, you could make diamonds and bananium out of metal and glass.

Reece wrote:What, did the thing give out more resources that you put in it or something?

With a fully upgraded crusher, you could shit out gold, diamonds and bannanium from something stupid like 50 candy wrappers.
HONK mechs were also common

Anonmare wrote:

Reece wrote:What, did the thing give out more resources that you put in it or something?

With a fully upgraded crusher, you could shit out gold, diamonds and bannanium from something stupid like 50 candy wrappers.
HONK mechs were also common

Never forget the airhorn shuttles.

what does it do now?

Reece wrote:what does it do now?

A much more controlled reclaim process. It used to randomly choose a material and pump it out, having a better manipulator would increase the tiers of materials you could get (and thus the odds of getting something), having a better matter bin would increase the number of sheets.

Now, when an object goes through the crusher it scans the item for materials inside of it. As most objects are made of metal and glass from the auto lathe, those are the most common things you can retrieve from it. If an object was made of gold, uranium, silver or bananium, the machine has a chance to reclaim sheets of that as well. In theory you could could still recycle things like Super Capacitors (gold), Ultra High Power Lasers (Uranium), Phasic Scanning Modules (Silver) and Airhorns (Bananium) enmasse to get more material than you started with, but thats a lot more time consuming than just waiting for the miners to bring you the items to begin with. As far as I know, the Crusher can't reclaim Diamonds or Plasma.

DemonFiren wrote: It was especially glorious if you were Cargo and stole a sci setup.

Usually Sci stole the crusher from Cargo, but I'd always try to give it back once I had enough bananium to make escape yellow with honktiles.

I miss choking critting people within 15 seconds.

the old crusher defied the law of energy conservation and it was glorious

I suppose the new one still kinda does but nowhere on the same scale

I miss the mint room. It was fun getting mint access and becoming a merchant.

Isn't that just the unused mining room? With the coin presses?

deputi wrote:I miss the mint room. It was fun getting mint access and becoming a merchant.

Well, it's still on the asteroid! Maybe the press it is a machine and you can move it?
Talking of old mining.
I kinda liked the old smelting. It felt so industrial, just right for a job like miner.
I suppose you could replace the smelter with another ORM and annoy the fuck out of the scientists by having conveyor belts deliver the ores piecemeal (*announcement console beeps* x1000)l. So gonna try that. Every scientist will leave the station with tinnitus.