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Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:43 am
by Luke Cox
Bottom post of the previous page:
Meatspikes are stupidly robust now, if you can stun somebody for long enough to put them on or cuff them at least. Once they're on, they're restrained for two minutes (three if they're cuffed) and take tons of damage if they try to escape. Best of all, they're pretty easy to make.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:09 pm
by Not-Dorsidarf
Luke Cox wrote:Meatspikes are stupidly robust now, if you can stun somebody for long enough to put them on or cuff them at least. Once they're on, they're restrained for two minutes (three if they're cuffed) and take tons of damage if they try to escape. Best of all, they're pretty easy to make.
Also they're permanently stuck upside down so sec can identify escapees.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:44 pm
by Luke Cox
Holy shit, you can capture somebody with O- blood, put an anesthetic tank and breath mask on them, meatrack them, and you have a blood bag a la Mad Max
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:36 pm
by Ricotez
Luke Cox wrote:Holy shit, you can capture somebody with O- blood, put an anesthetic tank and breath mask on them, meatrack them, and you have a blood bag a la Mad Max
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:35 am
by Zilenan91
Can you throw people onto meatracks while on aggressive grab intent?
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:43 am
by Luke Cox
Zilenan91 wrote:Can you throw people onto meatracks while on aggressive grab intent?
If you have a grab on them, you can put them on the meatspike just like you can monkeys. Takes 5 seconds to do, so you need to stun and/or cuff them. You can resist out of the meatspike in 2 minutes, but you take damage when you begin resisting and when you succeed. All in all, very effective way to incapacitate people.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:53 am
by tuypo1
those things on the floor around the ai they arent prox sensors they dispense space lube
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:58 am
by Septavius
tuypo1 wrote:those things on the floor around the ai they arent prox sensors they dispense space lube
*foam
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:12 am
by tuypo1
i had the feeling i would be wrong about what it was still darn handy
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:21 pm
by DeutscherMajor
If you push a supermatter shard into another supermatter shard, it just disintegrates. Now you only need to find an easy way to push an unstable one into a stable one as a SCRAM.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:00 pm
by PKPenguin321
tuypo1 wrote:those things on the floor around the ai they arent prox sensors they dispense space lube
yeah but people wont slip if gravity is disabled or if they have magboots so don't rely on these
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:12 pm
by Malkevin
DeutscherMajor wrote:If you push a supermatter shard into another supermatter shard, it just disintegrates. Now you only need to find an easy way to push an unstable one into a stable one as a SCRAM.
Conveyor belts.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:07 pm
by jaxy15
Gold-slime-core headslugs let you have your very own pet changeling if you have a sentience potion and a human corpse nearby.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:56 pm
by tuypo1
jaxy15 wrote:Gold-slime-core headslugs let you have your very own pet changeling if you have a sentience potion and a human corpse nearby.
I must do this.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:59 pm
by Aloraydrel
jaxy15 wrote:Gold-slime-core headslugs let you have your very own pet changeling if you have a sentience potion and a human corpse nearby.
Well actually they turn into a monkey after the body pops with no ling abilities. Unless some admin turns the monkey into a ling via TP
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:01 pm
by jaxy15
Aloraydrel wrote:jaxy15 wrote:Gold-slime-core headslugs let you have your very own pet changeling if you have a sentience potion and a human corpse nearby.
Well actually they turn into a monkey after the body pops with no ling abilities. Unless some admin turns the monkey into a ling via TP
That got fixed, it works properly now.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:01 am
by Zilenan91
I thought headslugs got removed from xenobio. I don't remember who it was, but I made an issue report on git about it not making headslug monkeys into lings and a coder yelled at me and closed it, saying headslugs shouldn't even be in xenobio in the first place.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:21 am
by Aloraydrel
jaxy15 wrote:Aloraydrel wrote:jaxy15 wrote:Gold-slime-core headslugs let you have your very own pet changeling if you have a sentience potion and a human corpse nearby.
Well actually they turn into a monkey after the body pops with no ling abilities. Unless some admin turns the monkey into a ling via TP
That got fixed, it works properly now.
H y p e then
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:30 am
by tuypo1
Zilenan91 wrote:I thought headslugs got removed from xenobio. I don't remember who it was, but I made an issue report on git about it not making headslug monkeys into lings and a coder yelled at me and closed it, saying headslugs shouldn't even be in xenobio in the first place.
fun removal
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:43 am
by PKPenguin321
Zilenan91 wrote:I thought headslugs got removed from xenobio. I don't remember who it was, but I made an issue report on git about it not making headslug monkeys into lings and a coder yelled at me and closed it, saying headslugs shouldn't even be in xenobio in the first place.
nah they're still there iirc, just because some guy said his opinion at you doesn't mean "BIG SCARY CODER REMOVED MY FUN"
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:55 am
by Zilenan91
He literally said that the only reason headslugs were able to be made by gold slimes is due to a bug and that he was going to remove them. I have no idea if he actually did, and also have no idea if they're still broken.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:05 pm
by PKPenguin321
https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/11929
Fixes #9365 - headslugs spawned by admins can become changelings now.
presumably also applies to headslugs spawned via other means, such as xenobiology.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:36 pm
by TrustyGun
You can sneak under plastic flaps when you are in a box.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 1:53 am
by tuypo1
TrustyGun wrote:You can sneak under plastic flaps when you are in a box.
that sounds like a bug
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:53 am
by AnonymousNow
Since plastic flaps are used to segregate areas for transport mediums (crates & boxes), why would that be a bug?
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:20 am
by Ricotez
because there are no other ways to get past flaps except for when there's a conveyor belt running under them and you lie down on it
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:30 pm
by Remie Richards
Ricotez wrote:because there are no other ways to get past flaps except for when there's a conveyor belt running under them and you lie down on it
Or you get someone else to help you under.
Or you ride a Mulebot.
Not to mention, Incoming's already confirmed he left this in deliberately, meaning it's a feature.
and as I've said on the issue discussion multiple times already, you can't do anything major with it for it to require being removed.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:31 pm
by asskek
Xhuis wrote:The Syndicate surgery duffleblag, from the uplink for 4 telecrystals, has a lot of good shit. It has a complete surgery toolset, functions as a dufflebag with no slowdown, and has a Syndicate MMI, which gives the borg you put it in a Syndicate lawset and no AI link. It also has a straight jacket and a muzzle.
Wait, normal dufflebags slow you down?
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:45 pm
by Xhuis
asskek wrote:Xhuis wrote:The Syndicate surgery duffleblag, from the uplink for 4 telecrystals, has a lot of good shit. It has a complete surgery toolset, functions as a dufflebag with no slowdown, and has a Syndicate MMI, which gives the borg you put it in a Syndicate lawset and no AI link. It also has a straight jacket and a muzzle.
Wait, normal dufflebags slow you down?
Yeah, that's why they were added. More space for less speed.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:03 pm
by Erbbu
When upgrading cameras with plasma, apply the sheets one at a time or the camera will consume the whole stack.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:16 am
by AnonymousNow
Erbbu wrote:When upgrading cameras with plasma, apply the sheets one at a time or the camera will consume the whole stack.
Definitely a bug.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:03 am
by tuypo1
Remie Richards wrote:Ricotez wrote:because there are no other ways to get past flaps except for when there's a conveyor belt running under them and you lie down on it
Or you get someone else to help you under.
Or you ride a Mulebot.
Not to mention, Incoming's already confirmed he left this in deliberately, meaning it's a feature.
and as I've said on the issue discussion multiple times already, you can't do anything major with it for it to require being removed.
there are already to many ways under them and easy entry where your not meant to be is a big problem
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:44 am
by TrustyGun
The box thing is actually pretty useful, for example, if the AI locked down an entire department for some shit, you can enter in though maint using a box and fire extingusher
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:21 am
by Not-Dorsidarf
tuypo1 wrote:Remie Richards wrote:Ricotez wrote:because there are no other ways to get past flaps except for when there's a conveyor belt running under them and you lie down on it
Or you get someone else to help you under.
Or you ride a Mulebot.
Not to mention, Incoming's already confirmed he left this in deliberately, meaning it's a feature.
and as I've said on the issue discussion multiple times already, you can't do anything major with it for it to require being removed.
there are already to many ways under them and easy entry where your not meant to be is a big problem
It's easier to just smash a window and rush in than it is to use the box. It's just stealthier to box.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:05 pm
by Erbbu
You can take a point blank minibomb explosion without gibbing if you are wearing the captain's space suit. You'll lose everything you had on you though and are still dead. If you are just wearing the standard captain armor/hat, you will gib.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:51 pm
by Zilenan91
Isn't bomb protection RnG, so wouldn't that mean that the caps space suit won't always prevent you being gibbed by minibombs.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:08 am
by Erbbu
Each time I tried it on my own server it didn't gib the spess suited cap. But I only tried five times or so.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:01 pm
by DeutscherMajor
The gas turbine seems to have a maxcap of how high temperatures it will accept. It turns off at 21.000k.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:21 pm
by Saegrimr
I like how being a manlet through genetics is a tactical advantage now.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:15 am
by lumipharon
Being a halfling should make you move slower because of your stubby little legs.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:22 am
by Malkevin
Everyone has also forgotten the other real advantage - your sprite has less pixels to click .
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:28 pm
by DeutscherMajor
If you climb on a Photocopier and click copy, it makes an image of your ass...
This might be old news, but the interesting thing is for what classes it works. I did it as a drone, and yes, theres an extra sprite for it.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 2:02 pm
by tuypo1
is it a generic drone spirit or specific for the drone you are using.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 2:04 pm
by Steelpoint
One thing I've picked up as HoS is to swing by RnD and ask/get them to produce me a box full of Loyalty Firing Pins and a Plasma Cutter.
Really useful when if your disarmed or someone steals a gun only to discover they can't fire it.
Bonus points for replacing the Loyalty Implants with Tracking Implants and hiding the real Loyalty Implants.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 2:31 pm
by DeutscherMajor
tuypo1 wrote:is it a generic drone spirit or specific for the drone you are using.
I used the normal drone, and the image had 6 dots for the legs and a.... torso ^^, dont know if its different for the other ones.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:30 pm
by PKPenguin321
Steelpoint wrote:One thing I've picked up as HoS is to swing by RnD and ask/get them to produce me a box full of Loyalty Firing Pins and a Plasma Cutter.
Really useful when if your disarmed or someone steals a gun only to discover they can't fire it.
Bonus points for replacing the Loyalty Implants with Tracking Implants and hiding the real Loyalty Implants.
can you spell emagrewop backwards
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:59 am
by Luke Cox
PKPenguin321 wrote:He did something vaguely creative! Powergamer ban he!!!
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:04 am
by PKPenguin321
i actually dont like firing pins in general
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:10 am
by PKPenguin321
also, to be more on topic:
When using a bruise pack/ointment, use it on yourself multiple times, then as soon as you finish applying it once target a different area and you'll heal that area. You can do this for all six limbs at once if you're a fast enough clicker. This is good for healing multiple limbs with bruise packs/ointments really quickly instead of waiting for the entire "You start applying the bruise pack" cooldown for every single limb.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:59 am
by tuypo1
PKPenguin321 wrote:i actually dont like firing pins in general
few people do.
Re: Little things you learned that are game changing
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:38 pm
by Ikarrus
Saegrimr wrote:I like how being a manlet through genetics is a tactical advantage now.
It's Oddjob all over again.