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DemonFiren wrote:Somewhat related, how do I into chemical bombs? The core tells me it'll only accept one beaker counter to its description.

/obj/item/weapon/bombcore/chemical
	name = "chemical payload"
	desc = "An explosive payload designed to spread chemicals, dangerous or otherwise, across a large area. It is able to hold up to four chemical containers, and must be loaded before use."
	origin_tech = "combat=4;materials=3"
	icon_state = "chemcore"
	var/list/beakers = list()
	var/max_beakers = 1
	var/spread_range = 5
	var/temp_boost = 50
var/time_release = 0

DemonFiren wrote:That reminds me, what do the various new casings like advanced release grenades actually do?

DemonFiren wrote:I always thought large casings let you use large+ beakers.
Only now do I realise they let you use more, not bigger.

name = "chemical grenade"
	desc = "A custom made grenade."
	icon_state = "chemg"
	item_state = "flashbang"
	w_class = WEIGHT_CLASS_SMALL
	force = 2
	var/stage = EMPTY
	var/list/beakers = list()
	var/list/allowed_containers = list(/obj/item/weapon/reagent_containers/glass/beaker, /obj/item/weapon/reagent_containers/glass/bottle)
	var/affected_area = 3
	var/obj/item/device/assembly_holder/nadeassembly = null
	var/assemblyattacher
	var/ignition_temp = 10 // The amount of heat added to the reagents when this grenade goes off.
	var/threatscale = 1 // Used by advanced grenades to make them slightly more worthy.
var/no_splash = FALSE //If the grenade deletes even if it has no reagents to splash with. Used for slime core reactions.

name = "large grenade"
	desc = "A custom made large grenade. It affects a larger area."
	icon_state = "large_grenade"
	allowed_containers = list(/obj/item/weapon/reagent_containers/glass, /obj/item/weapon/reagent_containers/food/condiment,
								/obj/item/weapon/reagent_containers/food/drinks)
	origin_tech = "combat=3;engineering=3"
	affected_area = 5
	ignition_temp = 25 // Large grenades are slightly more effective at setting off heat-sensitive mixtures than smaller grenades.
threatscale = 1.1	// 10% more effective.

DemonFiren wrote:Wait, how?
You put two large bluespace grenades in, that's 2x2x300 = 1200, then slap another bluespace beaker on the final assembly, that's 1500.

if(istype(G, /obj/item/weapon/grenade/chem_grenade/large))
			var/obj/item/weapon/grenade/chem_grenade/large/LG = G
			max_beakers += 1 // Adding two large grenades only allows for a maximum of 7 beakers.
			spread_range += 2 // Extra range, reduced density.
			temp_boost += 50 // maximum of +150K blast using only large beakers. Not enough to self ignite.
			for(var/obj/item/slime_extract/S in LG.beakers) // And slime cores.
				if(beakers.len < max_beakers)
					beakers += S
					S.loc = src
				else
S.loc = get_turf(src)

DemonFiren wrote:See, this is something you didn't mention.

Anonmare wrote:Large casings accept slime cores, though in bomb construction they have the added benefit of giving you more beaker slots for the payload and increasing the spread range.

DemonFiren wrote:See, this is something you didn't mention.

Deitus wrote:i need a guide to hydroponics

is https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7941 the best we got or what can i use

hydro is the last department i still have yet to conquer

DemonFiren wrote:first, delet this or else it will be nerfed
second, 5 units of glycerol is not that significant
just, like, grow some corn

AnonymousNow wrote:

DemonFiren wrote:See, this is something you didn't mention.

I must know how powerful this bomb would be, theoretically and in the game proper.
Would it clean a Z-level? Is it the new mining endgame, with an ashfield covered in dropped ore, pulverised ruins and dazed, mortally injured monsters?

Anonmare wrote:Dumb lizard, this is why you nail the scale.

tacolizard wrote:so are these chemical bombs not explosive capped?

Grazyn wrote:

AnonymousNow wrote:

DemonFiren wrote:See, this is something you didn't mention.

I must know how powerful this bomb would be, theoretically and in the game proper.
Would it clean a Z-level? Is it the new mining endgame, with an ashfield covered in dropped ore, pulverised ruins and dazed, mortally injured monsters?

Freon bombs already do what you described and they're easier to do than 2000u nitroglicerin chemical bombs

tacolizard wrote:

Grazyn wrote:

AnonymousNow wrote:

DemonFiren wrote:See, this is something you didn't mention.

I must know how powerful this bomb would be, theoretically and in the game proper.
Would it clean a Z-level? Is it the new mining endgame, with an ashfield covered in dropped ore, pulverised ruins and dazed, mortally injured monsters?

Freon bombs already do what you described and they're easier to do than 2000u nitroglicerin chemical bombs

so do freon bombs bypass the bomb cap? I didin't think they did.

CPTANT wrote:

tacolizard wrote:

Grazyn wrote:

AnonymousNow wrote:

DemonFiren wrote:See, this is something you didn't mention.

I must know how powerful this bomb would be, theoretically and in the game proper.
Would it clean a Z-level? Is it the new mining endgame, with an ashfield covered in dropped ore, pulverised ruins and dazed, mortally injured monsters?

Freon bombs already do what you described and they're easier to do than 2000u nitroglicerin chemical bombs

so do freon bombs bypass the bomb cap? I didin't think they did.

They don't

tacolizard wrote:

CPTANT wrote:

tacolizard wrote:

Grazyn wrote:

AnonymousNow wrote:

DemonFiren wrote:See, this is something you didn't mention.

I must know how powerful this bomb would be, theoretically and in the game proper.
Would it clean a Z-level? Is it the new mining endgame, with an ashfield covered in dropped ore, pulverised ruins and dazed, mortally injured monsters?

Freon bombs already do what you described and they're easier to do than 2000u nitroglicerin chemical bombs

so do freon bombs bypass the bomb cap? I didin't think they did.

They don't

so that would mean a 2000u nitroglycerin bomb does have value if detonated onstation, as it creates an over-cap explosion

Professor Hangar wrote:And here I still struggle with basic plasma and oxygen tank bombs, and thought it was a breakthrough when I used the air pump to fill the oxy tank to full with supercooled oxygen.

Maybe not a simple question but an almost philosophical one: is there a point where it's acceptable to say you're probably not gonna get much better at a particular aspect of the game and focus on what you can do? I could never start to comprehend genetics and I'm pretty entry-level with botany, for one. And I dunno if I'll ever get around to learning xenobiology.

tacolizard wrote:

Grazyn wrote:

AnonymousNow wrote:

DemonFiren wrote:See, this is something you didn't mention.

I must know how powerful this bomb would be, theoretically and in the game proper.
Would it clean a Z-level? Is it the new mining endgame, with an ashfield covered in dropped ore, pulverised ruins and dazed, mortally injured monsters?

Freon bombs already do what you described and they're easier to do than 2000u nitroglicerin chemical bombs

so do freon bombs bypass the bomb cap? I didin't think they did.

AnonymousNow wrote:I occasionally see a blue square form, about 5x5, usually around peacekeeper cyborgs. What is it?

AnonymousNow wrote:I occasionally see a blue square form, about 5x5, usually around peacekeeper cyborgs. What is it?

MimicFaux wrote:Simple Questions: do augmented arms increase punch damage? K.D. Chance? Lower uncuff time?

MimicFaux wrote:But do hivelord cores work on augments?

EDIT: My spessmen is showing. Legion core*