/tg/Station 13

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Getting back on track.

Validhunters. Almost always assistants because they have NO responsibilities, have access to gain IMPROVISED weapons, and the simple numbers of a greytide can fuck up someone's day. Sadly, by now it's a way of life and I just learn to be fucking paranoid of anyone, especially greyshirts with insulated gloves and a gasmask on.

Security who kills a harmless traitor for ordering a soap bar or balloon.
I don't care if they are one, they did nothing bad, I'm gonna go clone them now. Fuck you.

Spacemanspark wrote:Security who kills a harmless traitor for ordering a soap bar or balloon.
I don't care if they are one, they did nothing bad, I'm gonna go clone them now. Fuck you.

Spoiler:

Fun fact: I'm usually a security officer when I encounter this.

i killed you, you big tree.
you sperged the whole round about "I-I FOUND THE SOAP"
if you had admitted it and not lied maybe i woulda be nicer

I hate antags that throw the match, I hate sec officers that are like "hurr, he only spawned soap - not like he has a valid license to griff or anything, I'll just let him back into the general population where he can kill at will or release the singularity"

"Jesus Christ this man has a bar of red soap with a S symbol printed on it. Welp, better execute him on the spot and toss his charred corpse out the airlock".

Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. Maybe I'm just weird but unless a person spawned in something more overt I'll just confiscate the item, maybe their PDA, and be on my way.

allura wrote:

Spacemanspark wrote:Security who kills a harmless traitor for ordering a soap bar or balloon.
I don't care if they are one, they did nothing bad, I'm gonna go clone them now. Fuck you.

Spoiler:

Fun fact: I'm usually a security officer when I encounter this.

i killed you, you big tree.
you sperged the whole round about "I-I FOUND THE SOAP"
if you had admitted it and not lied maybe i woulda be nicer

Wait, what?
I haven't even had a traitor round in a long ass time, the fuck?

When people valid new traitor's.

By new, I mean people who still take out their PDA to order stuff and put it in their backpack in a semi-public area instead of drag and dropping and then putting the syndi items in their pockets.

Saw my miner as a QM buy a revolver in the mining area and let him off as long as he didn't shoot cargo people. Unfortunately, most people would kill him because "lol traitor".

or because he had a revolver, who knows.

Violaceus wrote:People who use telekinesis on shuttle to hit security/command with crowbars or extinguishers.

God, this, every time...
Just because you have TK doesn't give you valids to start harming... I can tell its you you shit head, you're the only one with a glowing head.

Swagile wrote:When people valid new traitor's.

By new, I mean people who still take out their PDA to order stuff and put it in their backpack in a semi-public area instead of drag and dropping and then putting the syndi items in their pockets.

Saw my miner as a QM buy a revolver in the mining area and let him off as long as he didn't shoot cargo people. Unfortunately, most people would kill him because "lol traitor".

I remember when I did that, only with an Emag. I was working in Cargo at the time, and the QM spotted me. He just told me to unlock a bunch of crates with it and we went GUN CARGO.

I really hate it when people loot your body when you're in crit and stuff, instead of getting you medical help. Unless you're an antagonist, please don't do it. It really fucks over Engineers and Security officers when you take their gloves/ tools/ weapons/ ID's.

People who rescue you when you are in crit and drag you around for ages, but dont fucking CPR you.
Seriously awful stuff. I have died 3 or 4 times from whichever chucklefuck who saved me dragging me around and having conversations while i bleedout on the floor

On the other side of the whole soap argument, I hate when people call a shitcurity lynch mob because they caught the traitor that gibbed three people and tried to release the singularity and are planning on perma or borging.

Raven776 wrote:On the other side of the whole soap argument, I hate when people call a shitcurity lynch mob because they caught the traitor that gibbed three people and tried to release the singularity and are planning on perma or borging.

Well.

That was... fairly specific.

When people say "N20" or "NO2" instead of "N2O".

N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N
fucking N20 man.
Nitrous Dioxide is a thing tho.

ColonicAcid wrote:N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N
fucking N20 man.
Nitrous Dioxide is a thing tho.

Yes but its O as in Oxygen, not 0 as in zero.

Very pedantic, but still. I guess that's the nature of a pet peeve.

When you loudly and clearly announce a crime in progress over the public radio channel with name and location of the crime and the first thing sec does is arrest and strip search you. Way to pay back that tip jackasses.

When I willingly comply to walk to the brig with a sec officer to show I'm no threat if I'm wanted to be talked to, and even have one behind me, and another suddenly runs up, tasers me, cuffs me, stunbatons me and throws me immediately into a cell with extra time for 'running from that officer who was behind you.'

ANYONE, and I mean ANYONE who doesn't have the common sense to check a critted doctor's bag for a medical kit or getting their ID to get into medbay. There is a special kinda of stupid when you do that and deserve to be gibbed for being a complete mong when you can't think that taking their ID and opening the door or getting the medkit out and healing them isn't a good.
"HOLY SHIT I AM A DOCTOR I HAVE A MEDKIT, FUCKING USE IT!"
"STOP WAITING TO GET INTO MEDBAY GET MY ID AND OPEN IT RETARD!"
"FUCKING GET THE ID!"
"GET THE MEDKIT OH MY FUCKING GOD!"
I've ICKY OOC'd out of sheer frustration because they were lacking in common sense.

peoplearestrange wrote:

ColonicAcid wrote:N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N
fucking N20 man.
Nitrous Dioxide is a thing tho.

Yes but its O as in Oxygen, not 0 as in zero.

Very pedantic, but still. I guess that's the nature of a pet peeve.

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Wouldn't that be like... 20 nitrogen atoms combined as a single molecule?

RG4 wrote:ANYONE, and I mean ANYONE who doesn't have the common sense to check a critted doctor's bag for a medical kit or getting their ID to get into medbay. There is a special kinda of stupid when you do that and deserve to be gibbed for being a complete mong when you can't think that taking their ID and opening the door or getting the medkit out and healing them isn't a good.
"HOLY SHIT I AM A DOCTOR I HAVE A MEDKIT, FUCKING USE IT!"
"STOP WAITING TO GET INTO MEDBAY GET MY ID AND OPEN IT RETARD!"
"FUCKING GET THE ID!"
"GET THE MEDKIT OH MY FUCKING GOD!"
I've ICKY OOC'd out of sheer frustration because they were lacking in common sense.

>putting a medkit into your backpack
>INSTEAD OF WEARING A MEDICAL BELT

Kraso wrote:

RG4 wrote:ANYONE, and I mean ANYONE who doesn't have the common sense to check a critted doctor's bag for a medical kit or getting their ID to get into medbay. There is a special kinda of stupid when you do that and deserve to be gibbed for being a complete mong when you can't think that taking their ID and opening the door or getting the medkit out and healing them isn't a good.
"HOLY SHIT I AM A DOCTOR I HAVE A MEDKIT, FUCKING USE IT!"
"STOP WAITING TO GET INTO MEDBAY GET MY ID AND OPEN IT RETARD!"
"FUCKING GET THE ID!"
"GET THE MEDKIT OH MY FUCKING GOD!"
I've ICKY OOC'd out of sheer frustration because they were lacking in common sense.

>putting a medkit into your backpack
>INSTEAD OF WEARING A MEDICAL BELT

That's where my Syringe gun filled with tricord goes.

Using the medbelt to store first aid equipment is a waste of valuable space. You're better off keeping everything in the medkit and filling your belt with pills and beakers of tricord/DD.

Speaking of medbay, a couple things probably symptoms of each other

1) People who push past the medbay staff to cryo patients they're dragging in, even going so far as to tase the medbay staff if they try to move them

2) Medbay staff who stand around chit chatting or pushing the clown or whatever while a critically wounded patient drags themself onto a sleeper and yells repeatedly for help

Dipshit doctors that throw people in cryo instead of sleepers to heal them. News flash, sleepers work on people in crit now, quit throwing me in a tube to be stuck unconscious for the next 5 minutes while you fuck off somewhere else.

ThanatosRa wrote:Wouldn't that be like... 20 nitrogen atoms combined as a single molecule?

Yes kind of.
It's impossible tho because Nitrogen is always found extremely ionically stable because >triple bond. If you were to somehow make a polymer chain like that it would break in an instant and the nitrogen would just become N2.

Engineers who grab the hardsuits and proceed to not do Hardsuit related things with them (Like fudge around with the plasma tanks.) instead of going out to set up the emitters are start making the jogs to wire solars.

People who yell at the RnD to make something for them, but instead of waiting for the RnD to actually research it, decide to take matters into their own hands, stunning them, taking their id, fucking around for a bit, all because they couldn't wait for me to scan the OVERLY HUGE menu for the one thing I needed to print to research the cookie they want.

Idiot scientists who have no idea what they're doing at all in the slightest and still fuck around with the decon, despite their being someone right there who is willing to answer any questions they may have.

Atmospheric Technicians or Chief Engineers that completely remove the plasma or other dangerous gases from the mix tank loop to use it as fuel for some project (burn chambers, turbine, etc). I find it to be terrible practice to completely screw over a rogue AI / non-engineering cyborg without prior knowledge or suspicion. I do not mind that they are using the plasma for a good cause, all I ask is that the gasses be left connected to the loops so floods can still occur. Six times I have had a rogue AI round ruined because of that.

Gun Hog wrote:Atmospheric Technicians or Chief Engineers that completely remove the plasma or other dangerous gases from the mix tank loop to use it as fuel for some project (burn chambers, turbine, etc). I find it to be terrible practice to completely screw over a rogue AI / non-engineering cyborg without prior knowledge or suspicion. I do not mind that they are using the plasma for a good cause, all I ask is that the gasses be left connected to the loops so floods can still occur. Six times I have had a rogue AI round ruined because of that.

I'm pretty sure I saw a feed to distro pump turned backwards one round when I was subverted, before I had been subverted even.

Cutting off plasma without a reason is ahelpable.

90% of the personnel who are supposed to be dedicated to the upkeep of the station and its inhabitants require you to do their job for them

Spacemanspark wrote:

Kraso wrote:

RG4 wrote:ANYONE, and I mean ANYONE who doesn't have the common sense to check a critted doctor's bag for a medical kit or getting their ID to get into medbay. There is a special kinda of stupid when you do that and deserve to be gibbed for being a complete mong when you can't think that taking their ID and opening the door or getting the medkit out and healing them isn't a good.
"HOLY SHIT I AM A DOCTOR I HAVE A MEDKIT, FUCKING USE IT!"
"STOP WAITING TO GET INTO MEDBAY GET MY ID AND OPEN IT RETARD!"
"FUCKING GET THE ID!"
"GET THE MEDKIT OH MY FUCKING GOD!"
I've ICKY OOC'd out of sheer frustration because they were lacking in common sense.

>putting a medkit into your backpack
>INSTEAD OF WEARING A MEDICAL BELT

That's where my Syringe gun filled with tricord goes.

>tricord

Just a few pet peeves..

First off, Doctors that REFUSE to use any medkits for injuries that could be fixed in a few seconds. Yes, I understand that you want to conserve your packs, but its so much easier to just use a bruise pack on an injury then boot them out door. Not only does the cryo take some time, not counting that some may not even have it set up yet, but it also leaves you helpless and we all know that not all doctors sit there to wait for you, so you either sit there for ages or you get dragged off and killed by someone who just HAPPEN to have a hit out on you.

One other thing that bothers me, is when people CONSTANTLY say "Valid" or "Valid hunter" Icly. Ok, I get that some have an issue with past problems, especially with me , but holy crap, does it REALLY need to be said over and over and over ICLY? I don't know how many times I've gotten close to say something over OOC about it during a round. It bothers me more when people who DO say that, are traitors, that are killing or about to start something big, and they expect you to not stop them, not be a problem, and let them kill you along with everyone else, cause otherwise you're a "VALID HUNTER".

And one last one..refusing cargo access to an assistant, I can agree that cargo can be used to make or get weapons, but honestly, almost every place in the station can be a source of weapons. Most of the time, cargo is just a good way to pass the time, order a few fun outfits/hats, or fight the spiders that come from the Spider clan occastionally.

I feel better now, :3

Desucake wrote: And one last one..refusing cargo access to an assistant, I can agree that cargo can be used to make or get weapons, but honestly, almost every place in the station can be a source of weapons. Most of the time, cargo is just a good way to pass the time, order a few fun outfits/hats, or fight the spiders that come from the Spider clan occastionally.

Be a cargo tech then... Cargo techs already have so little to do, letting assistants have free roam of their domain makes them almost redundant.

I mean seriously, why would you pick assistant over cargo tech anyway, its not like the job role is anymore demanding than assistant and now you have a "home" and a place to make shit.

peoplearestrange wrote:

Desucake wrote: And one last one..refusing cargo access to an assistant, I can agree that cargo can be used to make or get weapons, but honestly, almost every place in the station can be a source of weapons. Most of the time, cargo is just a good way to pass the time, order a few fun outfits/hats, or fight the spiders that come from the Spider clan occastionally.

Be a cargo tech then... Cargo techs already have so little to do, letting assistants have free roam of their domain makes them almost redundant.

I mean seriously, why would you pick assistant over cargo tech anyway, its not like the job role is anymore demanding than assistant and now you have a "home" and a place to make shit.

Well, its filled when I usually ask, and instead of just getting the ok, I get a "Oh we already got a full cargo team" or "We don't need you, you probably just want weapons anyway." I would also figure with the usual access, I would get the title by default most of the time.

When I'm wiring solars and another engineer decides to do the two on the other side, then when I walk over to double check it's full of knots and other bullshit, SMES isn't set to input, none of the solar panels are connecting, SMES isn't wired to grid properly. God that pisses me off so much, solars is babby tier wiring, if you can't do it right and aren't willing to learn don't fuck with it.

I will mention that DoT wiring is more wire efficient than smooth wiring. Though smooth wiring looks a whole lot prettier, it's about 50% inefficient, so I'll give any engineer the benefit of the doubt when they dot wire, but not setting up the SMES is just bad form.

To be a little more on topic: Random people asking for items and not giving a reason, at the VERY least try to have a bs reason, even if you're just gonna use it to potato.

If you run knots from the panel wires, they don't link at the comp properly. Smooth wiring guarantees that they all hook in. I literally just had to fix this earlier today because an engineer just threw down some half ass knots and as a result one solar array had none linked up, and the other one only had 20 panels link until I smooth wired. There is no excuse whatsoever for doing a lazy and messy job, cable is plentiful enough that they shouldn't be worried about running out.

Zsword wrote:I will mention that DoT wiring is more wire efficient than smooth wiring. Though smooth wiring looks a whole lot prettier, it's about 50% inefficient, so I'll give any engineer the benefit of the doubt when they dot wire, but not setting up the SMES is just bad form.

To be a little more on topic: Random people asking for items and not giving a reason, at the VERY least try to have a bs reason, even if you're just gonna use it to potato.

"Hey RnD, cargo totally needs a protolathe...for...stuff."
"No."
"Man, what a jerk."

See, that's a not reason.

An actual reason would be 'hey RnD, Cargo needs a protolathe so we can supply higher quality items than just what the autolathe provides, such as Welding masks instead of helmets' Mind you, a protolathe by itself does nothing.

Clowns/Mimes/etc that either get or steal access to the chemistry area and just sail right in to fuck with the dispensers. Especially the one I'm already using. Fuck you clown. You can get things at the counter like everyone else.

cedarbridge wrote:Clowns/Mimes/etc that either get or steal access to the chemistry area and just sail right in to fuck with the dispensers. Especially the one I'm already using. Fuck you clown. You can get things at the counter like everyone else.

Flipside: Chemists who do not carry out reasonable requests. Like mutagen for a botanist, or alkysine for someone who has brain damage.

People who kill themselves and make it look like someone else did it, like That One Guy who ran into chemistry and pumped himself full with Lexorin just for lelz.

cedarbridge wrote:Clowns/Mimes/etc that either get or steal access to the chemistry area and just sail right in to fuck with the dispensers. Especially the one I'm already using. Fuck you clown. You can get things at the counter like everyone else.

That Space Lube ain't gonna make itself you know.

Kot wrote:People who kill themselves and make it look like someone else did it, like That One Guy who ran into chemistry and pumped himself full with Lexorin just for lelz.

I love it when people do that. Gives me reason as a detective to do work.

There is a difference between clever suicides that detective solves and murdering yourself to make someone else get killed for it.
The problem might of course lie with security that first shoots, and never ask questions but whathever.

Modern security either shoots first or dies first. Asking someone for a search will either get them to comply if they've got nothing to hide, run from you if you're lucky, or just whip out a revolver and shoot you enough times quickly that you can't call for help. And now that the only sec member on station is dead, time to murderbone.

Raven776 wrote:Modern security either shoots first or dies first. Asking someone for a search will either get them to comply if they've got nothing to hide, run from you if you're lucky, or just whip out a revolver and shoot you enough times quickly that you can't call for help. And now that the only sec member on station is dead, time to murderbone.

This. If I am sec, I am not saying anything till we are both in the brig with you cuffed to an interrogation chair or a cell bed. Because all too often, stopping to type gets me killed or lets some asshole run up and help the person I am arresting up before I have cuffs on them, or whatever other bullshit they feel like. And if you ARE one of those greytiding assholes who runs up to try and help criminals escape just because I didn't soliloquize before laying down the law, then you get to join them too.

YOU BRAKED INTO MY DEPARTMENT I KIL YOU LELELE DEPARTMENT PRIDE WORLDWIDE I HAET GREYTID

Seriously this behaviour is the worst. ESPECIALLY when the person who is Valiantly Defending Their Department is unrobust/dumb/doesn't listen to you. I once ran into engineering from maint because I thought the door was emagged. I came up to an engie and told him, hey, guy, your door is emagged. What does he do? He whips out his flash/stunprod/whatever, it takes him like 5 seconds to click my sprite (I am waiting for him to stun me because yeah I'm in his department I'm not resisting I'm just here to tell him about the door and to check if there's someone cranking the PA up to 3/absorbing/killing/whatever), then he strips me and throws me out because HURR I HATE GREYTIDE UR GREYTIDE. To add insult to injury, it was obvious from what he was saying that he thought he was a big hero for defeating the evil greytider with his robust, while the reality was I just stood there and let myself be stunned.

OR that time when I found an engie ID and went to engineering to drop it off and the engie who was there tried to stun me even though I told him HELLO I AM HERE TO DROP OFF THIS ID I FOUND THANKS BYE. OR when I was repairing tcomms as an assistant (comms were emagged into and down for like 5 minutes already) and just as I leave comms and am in a hallway some engie comes out of maint and goes HURR YOURE DISABLE COMS? I TRY TO STUN YOU AND CALL SEC OVER THE COMS YOU FIXED BECAUSE YOU BROKED THEM NO YOU WERENT REPARRING THE APC BECAUSE YOUR AN ASSISTMAN AND ASSISTMAN CANT GET APC BROAD YOU STOLE IT FROM ENGINEEING TO BRAKE COMS. Now I just disarm people who attempt to stun me for breaking in and cuff them to a chair while I do my business but man it's so annoying when you break in/trespass to actually help, cooperate with the residents, explain why you're here to them, don't steal anything and still get treated like a greytider, stunned, cuffed and get your things taken (toolbelt/power cell/apc/airlock board/insuls? OBVIOUSLY stolen from engineering there is NO OTHER PLACE TO GET THEM).

Engineering and cargo are especially guilty of this. Science and medbay rarely care, but CARGONIA STRONK or EVERYONE IS OUT TO GET OUR YELLOW GLOVES are ugh.

Whoisthere wrote:

Spoiler:

YOU BRAKED INTO MY DEPARTMENT I KIL YOU LELELE DEPARTMENT PRIDE WORLDWIDE I HAET GREYTID

Seriously this behaviour is the worst. ESPECIALLY when the person who is Valiantly Defending Their Department is unrobust/dumb/doesn't listen to you. I once ran into engineering from maint because I thought the door was emagged. I came up to an engie and told him, hey, guy, your door is emagged. What does he do? He whips out his flash/stunprod/whatever, it takes him like 5 seconds to click my sprite (I am waiting for him to stun me because yeah I'm in his department I'm not resisting I'm just here to tell him about the door and to check if there's someone cranking the PA up to 3/absorbing/killing/whatever), then he strips me and throws me out because HURR I HATE GREYTIDE UR GREYTIDE. To add insult to injury, it was obvious from what he was saying that he thought he was a big hero for defeating the evil greytider with his robust, while the reality was I just stood there and let myself be stunned.

OR that time when I found an engie ID and went to engineering to drop it off and the engie who was there tried to stun me even though I told him HELLO I AM HERE TO DROP OFF THIS ID I FOUND THANKS BYE. OR when I was repairing tcomms as an assistant (comms were emagged into and down for like 5 minutes already) and just as I leave comms and am in a hallway some engie comes out of maint and goes HURR YOURE DISABLE COMS? I TRY TO STUN YOU AND CALL SEC OVER THE COMS YOU FIXED BECAUSE YOU BROKED THEM NO YOU WERENT REPARRING THE APC BECAUSE YOUR AN ASSISTMAN AND ASSISTMAN CANT GET APC BROAD YOU STOLE IT FROM ENGINEEING TO BRAKE COMS. Now I just disarm people who attempt to stun me for breaking in and cuff them to a chair while I do my business but man it's so annoying when you break in/trespass to actually help, cooperate with the residents, explain why you're here to them, don't steal anything and still get treated like a greytider, stunned, cuffed and get your things taken (toolbelt/power cell/apc/airlock board/insuls? OBVIOUSLY stolen from engineering there is NO OTHER PLACE TO GET THEM).

Engineering and cargo are especially guilty of this. Science and medbay rarely care, but CARGONIA STRONK or EVERYONE IS OUT TO GET OUR YELLOW GLOVES are ugh.

Ok so you turned from trying to do a good thing and having people react badly because of paranoia of greytiding, to then ACTUALLY (essentially) yourself (disarm, cuff, chair etc).
Admittedly those engineers were wrong to even have a weapon to stun, and to stun you un-prevoked, but don't then GIVE them a reason to be paranoid. Carry on being the helpful assistant you started as, the server needs more people like that.