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Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:18 pm
by Steelpoint

Bottom post of the previous page:

The only justification this feature had for existing was the fact it existed as a option.

Space Station 13 is a game defined by the things you can do that no other game lets you. More so this is known for the little things.

I'm not claiming to be for or against this, but I fully understand why many people would be very against its removal as removing it may be seen as akin to violating one of the things that draws people to SS13, that extra level of complexity and interactivity.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:21 pm
by captain sawrge
The option still exists in several different, less controversial formats though.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:23 pm
by Ricotez
you can still bind people to a surgery table and hit them in the nuts with a hatchet and get banned for molestation, you just need to forcefeed them a pink slime potion at the end now, for fuck's sake

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:48 pm
by Dax Dupont
Well, the main reason it got brought up was the fact that Conan Exiles might be adding castration to it's feature list.
http://www.pcgamer.com/conan-exiles-dev ... astration/

Not gonna lie, gender reassignment surgery with hatches was one of the examples I used to explain "you can do almost everything in ss13" to people.

The sheer lunacy of being able to do that was one of the reasons I and some friends started to play long ago. Granted, I haven't played as much lately, and last times I did surgery I was getting too confused with the new options for things to really notice.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:17 pm
by John_Oxford
The people who called for its removal should stop playing here, we don't want you.

Having a feature removed because "MY GOD IT INSINUATES YOU ARE TOUCHING MY GENTALS ERPPP REEEE" is terrible. If you aren't intelligent enough to see the logical fallacy in that then you most likely aren't old enough to be playing here to begin with.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:29 pm
by oranges
you better believe if some rarely used feature attracts a tonne of admin enforcement and drama then it will be gone from the code like shit through a goose.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:37 pm
by IcePacks
you guys sucked with sex changes anyway

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:50 pm
by Alipheese
Someone once forcibly gave me a gender re-signment. I thought it was hilarious.
"So and so has made a man out of you"
Force gender swap can happen in radstorms. Stop bitching about your sjw fears and get the fuck over it you thin skinned shits.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:04 pm
by Mooseykins
So if I log in right now, target the groin and just punch people in the dick will i get banned for molestation?

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:05 pm
by confused rock
give us a poll vote thingy

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:14 pm
by Reece
Mooseykins wrote:So if I log in right now, target the groin and just punch people in the dick will i get banned for molestation?
I spent a round hunting people down, removing their eyes, stripping them naked and displaying them in glass boxes at escape and then RP'ing my excitement over it and didn't get bwoinked. So I doubt it will be an issue unless the person reports it.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:20 pm
by Qbopper
Alipheese wrote:Force gender swap can happen in radstorms. Stop bitching about your sjw fears and get the fuck over it you thin skinned shits.
I think you haven't read anything in the thread if you think "sjw fears" caused the removal

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:26 pm
by captain sawrge
Hahahaha everyone in this thread is stupid except me

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:52 pm
by Supermichael777
It was kinda rape-y

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:55 pm
by Luke Cox
People got a little too triggered

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:05 pm
by Mooseykins
Qbopper wrote:
Alipheese wrote:Force gender swap can happen in radstorms. Stop bitching about your sjw fears and get the fuck over it you thin skinned shits.
I think you haven't read anything in the thread if you think "sjw fears" caused the removal
I think you haven't read anything else i've said in this thread.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:09 pm
by Wyzack
And apparently no one is reading my posts so i am going to use really small words.


Players caused shitfits about this, not admins


Feature caused more drama than fun


Feature is gone

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:24 pm
by DemonFiren
thus, remove players who can't man up and return feature
bam, game improved, playerbase improved

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:34 pm
by InsaneHyena
The ligger is correct.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:36 pm
by Wyzack
No you guys are right, even being adjacent to genital mutilation caused a bunch of drama but i am sure banning people for their opinions on the matter will go over smooth as glass

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:38 pm
by Luke Cox
DemonFiren wrote:thus, remove players who can't man up and return feature
bam, game improved, playerbase improved

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:42 pm
by Cobby
I believe you guys are proving why this feature will never make a return. Bravo!

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:43 pm
by PKPenguin321
one time i got put to sleep with N2O during an appendix removal and woke up as a woman, iit was funny as fuck

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:07 pm
by confused rock
ExcessiveCobblestone wrote:I believe you guys are proving why this feature will never make a return. Bravo!
well I mean this drama is happening while gender reassignment ISN'T here

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:21 pm
by captain sawrge
confused rock wrote:
ExcessiveCobblestone wrote:I believe you guys are proving why this feature will never make a return. Bravo!
well I mean this drama is happening while gender reassignment ISN'T here
Yeah and it was way worse when it was here

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:22 pm
by BeeSting12
if someone gets triggered other a pixel change on their sprite they should probably be removed, not the feature.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:30 pm
by NikNakFlak
There was once a guy who was greytiding the brig when I was captian. He screamed that he was a rev and smashed the Windows and punched people. I subdued him by lasering him into crit on the spot and then I cut his dick off, healed him up and threw him in perma. He adminhelped and I got bwoinked. It turned out to be a real rev round, but he was never a rev


Good times.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:36 pm
by Thunder11
It went because 99% of the use it saw was doctors using it to griff

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:49 pm
by Mooseykins
Thunder11 wrote:It went because 99% of the use it saw was doctors using it to griff
Please can someone tell me how the majority of our features can't be used to griff?
Wyzack wrote: Players caused shitfits about this, not admins
Certain players caused shitfits, the feature got speedmerged out of existence WITHOUT polling all of the players, and now here we are.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:01 am
by confused rock
seriously though, you can just mass produce gender reassignment potions in xenobio and then click everybody you see in the hallway with them

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:12 am
by Saegrimr
confused rock wrote:seriously though, you can just mass produce gender reassignment potions in xenobio and then click everybody you see in the hallway with them
Yeah, and this shouldn't be a problem and i'd seriously consider slapping someone who tries to ahelp saying they're upset that their pronoun is incorrect.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:15 am
by cedarbridge
BeeSting12 wrote:if someone gets triggered other a pixel change on their sprite they should probably be removed, not the feature.
Fun fact: there isn't even a visible dick pixel. This is unironically getting upset about pronouns.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:32 am
by BeeSting12
cedarbridge wrote:
BeeSting12 wrote:if someone gets triggered other a pixel change on their sprite they should probably be removed, not the feature.
Fun fact: there isn't even a visible dick pixel. This is unironically getting upset about pronouns.
well there is the fact that you get breasts. but i agree 100%, this is dumb

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:46 am
by Luke Cox
Shitposting aside, if sex change surgeries trigger you in a game like SS13, something is really fucking wrong with you

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:59 am
by captain sawrge
Luke Cox wrote:Shitposting aside, if sex change surgeries trigger you in a game like SS13, something is really fucking wrong with you
how ironic

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:00 am
by captain sawrge
It has literally nothing to do with gender politics/muh SJWS/triggering people and more to do with the fact that it was basically only ever used so ultra funny non-antags could go around kidnapping people and tying them up for 20 minutes to lop off their johnson. It only encouraged stupid annoying behavior like that and it was getting old having to explain to someone every three months why dragging people into maint wordlessly to swap their genitals was being a cunt and there really wasn't any actual other reason for it to exist.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:00 am
by captain sawrge
"Just ban the people that use it like that"
Alright but then if we're going to ban everyone that uses a feature why bother keeping it in the game

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:49 am
by TheNightingale
I still maintain we should just have it like this...

1) Surgeon performs gender reassignment surgery on Patient.
2) Patient is given a menu - "Which pronouns do you want to use?" - to choose from [he, she or they].
3) If Patient is willingly undergoing the surgery (for disguise purposes, or if they're playing along with an antag) they'll probably pick a set they're not currently using.
4) If Patient is unwilling to be surgerised, they'll pick the set they're currently using, and nothing will change.
5) People are no longer uncomfortable, gender reassignment can no longer be used to griff, and it retains its use as an easily-accessible disguise tool.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:02 am
by Saegrimr
TheNightingale wrote:I still maintain we should just have it like this...

1) Surgeon performs gender reassignment surgery on Patient.
2) Patient is given a menu - "Which pronouns do you want to use?" - to choose from [he, she or they].
3) If Patient is willingly undergoing the surgery (for disguise purposes, or if they're playing along with an antag) they'll probably pick a set they're not currently using.
4) If Patient is unwilling to be surgerised, they'll pick the set they're currently using, and nothing will change.
5) People are no longer uncomfortable, gender reassignment can no longer be used to griff, and it retains its use as an easily-accessible disguise tool.
Is this ironic

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:06 am
by Aloraydrel
TheNightingale wrote:I still maintain we should just have it like this...

1) Surgeon performs gender reassignment surgery on Patient.
2) Patient is given a menu - "Which pronouns do you want to use?" - to choose from [he, she or they].
3) If Patient is willingly undergoing the surgery (for disguise purposes, or if they're playing along with an antag) they'll probably pick a set they're not currently using.
4) If Patient is unwilling to be surgerised, they'll pick the set they're currently using, and nothing will change.
5) People are no longer uncomfortable, gender reassignment can no longer be used to griff, and it retains its use as an easily-accessible disguise tool.
a lot of effort for something that will almost never be used

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:08 am
by Luke Cox
captain sawrge wrote:"Just ban the people that use it like that"
Alright but then if we're going to ban everyone that uses a feature why bother keeping it in the game
Ban nobody and let people play how they want

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:07 am
by confused rock
Nightingale fuck you i am stonekin i only use ste stom and stey pronouns why cant i pick them

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:39 am
by cedarbridge
TheNightingale wrote:I still maintain we should just have it like this...

1) Surgeon performs gender reassignment surgery on Patient.
2) Patient is given a menu - "Which pronouns do you want to use?" - to choose from [he, she or they].
3) If Patient is willingly undergoing the surgery (for disguise purposes, or if they're playing along with an antag) they'll probably pick a set they're not currently using.
4) If Patient is unwilling to be surgerised, they'll pick the set they're currently using, and nothing will change.
5) People are no longer uncomfortable, gender reassignment can no longer be used to griff, and it retains its use as an easily-accessible disguise tool.
I mean we could also do this...

1) Antag McGrey pulls out a revolver/Toolbox/Bikehorn
2) Clicks on victim's sprite
3) Victim is given a menu "Do you want to die?"
4) If victim is willing, their model turns 90 degrees sideways.
5) People now no longer have to worry about unwanted deaths and hurt feelings and antags don't have to be considered bad guys anymore because nobody has to die that doesn't want to.

Fixed.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:30 am
by bandit
the "it's rarely used" argument is a bit weak when that applies to huge portions of the game's features, mostly due to the fact that the RP has deteriorated to the point where they aren't used if they aren't the top meta

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:52 am
by Mooseykins
bandit wrote:the "it's rarely used" argument is a bit weak when that applies to huge portions of the game's features, mostly due to the fact that the RP has deteriorated to the point where they aren't used if they aren't the top meta
Not to mention earlier i specifically said that it's not the fact that it's rarely used, it's the fact it gives the player options of WHAT to do.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:59 am
by Luke Cox
"Useless" features are fine so long as they don't inhibit other features

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:38 am
by Haevacht
This thread is bad and you all should feel bad.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:50 am
by Mooseykins
Haevacht wrote:This thread is bad and you all should feel bad.
not an argument

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:09 am
by Weepo
Please give me a dick organ / vagina organ and let us use organ manipulation so I can harvest the stations dicks and add them to my collection of functional cocks attached at random to my body parts including eyes and throat.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:52 am
by Saegrimr
Weepo wrote:Please give me a dick organ / vagina organ and let us use organ manipulation so I can harvest the stations dicks and add them to my collection of functional cocks attached at random to my body parts including eyes and throat.
The only way that's ever going to happen is if I can get some cable coil between two and make dong-chucks.

Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:19 pm
by cedarbridge
Saegrimr wrote:
Weepo wrote:Please give me a dick organ / vagina organ and let us use organ manipulation so I can harvest the stations dicks and add them to my collection of functional cocks attached at random to my body parts including eyes and throat.
The only way that's ever going to happen is if I can get some cable coil between two and make dong-chucks.
Not until I'm able to attach it to people's heads to prevent wearing other headgear