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MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby John_Oxford » Mon May 01, 2017 3:56 am #287149

OXFORD NEWS ALERT!

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wots this then

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for those getting into the drama more or less what happened is fallout/13/ ran by Godsring was using tg assets, but keeping them closed source, which is against our license agreement. as such mso filed a DMCA claim against them, which is a copyright infringement notice.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby oranges » Mon May 01, 2017 4:00 am #287150

release source or the DMCA's will continue

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby John_Oxford » Mon May 01, 2017 4:02 am #287151

im not the offical godsring representitive and i do not speak for him or his affiliated parties, or on behalf of his server or his intellectual property

but i believe his response is going to be somewhere along the lines of "fuck off"

not mine though im just here to watch server drama and wonder as to why /tg/'s trying to DCMA a 20 person server
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TechnoAlchemist wrote:you where always right john, you where always right

>implying the admin conspiracy wasen't just confirmed by a admin.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby oranges » Mon May 01, 2017 4:02 am #287152

I'm going to DMCA him next, he's using tg code which is AGPL licensed

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby John_Oxford » Mon May 01, 2017 4:03 am #287153

im going to DMCA you for being a fucking orange, thats copyrighted by flordia.

you can go ahead and move this to ntr now though
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TechnoAlchemist wrote:you where always right john, you where always right

>implying the admin conspiracy wasen't just confirmed by a admin.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby oranges » Mon May 01, 2017 4:04 am #287154

No way I'm a Philippine orange

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby John_Oxford » Mon May 01, 2017 4:04 am #287155

oranges wrote:No way I'm a Philippine orange


you mean a citrus mango
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>implying the admin conspiracy wasen't just confirmed by a admin.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby oranges » Mon May 01, 2017 4:05 am #287156

John_Oxford wrote:
oranges wrote:No way I'm a Philippine orange


you mean a citrus mango

delete that

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby John_Oxford » Mon May 01, 2017 4:05 am #287157

oranges wrote:
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oranges wrote:No way I'm a Philippine orange


you mean a citrus mango

delete that


>code maintainer*
>asking me to delete that

delete yourself


*no one seen that edit i swear
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>implying the admin conspiracy wasen't just confirmed by a admin.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby iamgoofball » Mon May 01, 2017 4:06 am #287158

Did we actually do this

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby John_Oxford » Mon May 01, 2017 4:08 am #287159

yes
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TechnoAlchemist wrote:you where always right john, you where always right

>implying the admin conspiracy wasen't just confirmed by a admin.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby John_Oxford » Mon May 01, 2017 4:09 am #287160

goof its because your codes to shitty so they wanted gods code

apparently ausops spriting isn't good enough
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>implying the admin conspiracy wasen't just confirmed by a admin.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby MrStonedOne » Mon May 01, 2017 4:41 am #287164

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby captain sawrge » Mon May 01, 2017 4:43 am #287165

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby ShadowDimentio » Mon May 01, 2017 4:45 am #287167

The options are pretty simple, either remove the stolen code, keep it release it publicly in accordance to the law, or keep getting banned by Byond for breaking the law.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby John_Oxford » Mon May 01, 2017 4:46 am #287168

https://discord.gg/wu6ma3M goof your presence is requested in the discord

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby Cherrypone » Mon May 01, 2017 4:52 am #287169

this discord chat is great
also I was in before the link was posted and before this mess started haha jokes on you guys who's the newfag now

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby oranges » Mon May 01, 2017 5:10 am #287171

damn I got banned

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby Shadowlight213 » Mon May 01, 2017 5:16 am #287172

Got kicked too.
Looks like he deleted all the instant invite links. The one on their reddit is expired too.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby Cherrypone » Mon May 01, 2017 5:21 am #287173

>they banned y'all
shit
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby Shadowlight213 » Mon May 01, 2017 5:28 am #287174

Wait, yeah. I got banned. Discord just gives ZERO indication it's a ban and not an expired link.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby DrPillzRedux » Mon May 01, 2017 5:30 am #287175

>you can use our code so long as you remain open source, otherwise you will be taken down
>fuck you I'm going closed source
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby Cherrypone » Mon May 01, 2017 5:33 am #287176

>they were not only making money off something based on /tg/code and also closed source, but letting people pay for starting with power armor (or atleast were going to)
seriously though I wish there was an easier way to post screenshots cause these guys are fucking shittalking like crazy
looks like one more server I'm going to stop playing on
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby PKPenguin321 » Mon May 01, 2017 5:50 am #287178

What possible reason could they have for not open sourcing a game that is based off of an open source project and therefore already like 95% publicly available? Their own fault for this, godspeed mso
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby Cherrypone » Mon May 01, 2017 5:55 am #287181

their reasoning is "T-The jews just wanna steal our sprites and hard work!!!" essentially
the only people allowed to be closed source are lifeweb because those guys are cool

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby Shadowlight213 » Mon May 01, 2017 6:03 am #287183

No, lifeweb was smart and used the gpl loophole.
Their stuff is 100% legal, and we respect that.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby oranges » Mon May 01, 2017 6:06 am #287184

Of everything that makes me the most furious.

Their argument is that people will run their own fallout13 stations using their code and sprites and that this cheapens their effort.

In the meantime they're literally building on top of our code and sprites, all our effort and hard work that we give away freely and allow people to take and run their own tgstation with it's own unique flavour, all we ask in return is that they respect our work and release their own changes back to the community to also benefit from, that's the only reason we use the AGPL license.

Without the tg base they wouldn't have half the game they have, they're basically spitting directly in our face and then trying to play the victim card.

Their stuff is 100% legal, and we respect that.


Respect is not a word I would use, CM are ethically pond sucking scum. Their abusing of a loophole in the GPL license to keep the code closed in a way that violates the intentions of most of the devs who comitted pre the AGPL license is not something I would respect.

edit: sorry I got carried away and thought you said CM, lifeweb and CM are the equivalent in my eyes.

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby Slignerd » Mon May 01, 2017 8:32 am #287200

Cherrypone wrote:seriously though I wish there was an easier way to post screenshots cause these guys are fucking shittalking like crazy

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby DemonFiren » Mon May 01, 2017 8:45 am #287202

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby Slignerd » Mon May 01, 2017 9:03 am #287211

> S: did you ask to use the code
> G: the license is more or less invalid

> G: our content is set in modules which is covered under the AGPL as allowing us to keep our source private


not only is he probably wrong, he also appears to deserve all of this

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby bman » Mon May 01, 2017 9:39 am #287212

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby Wyzack » Mon May 01, 2017 1:41 pm #287236

> if you use code don't do thing
> uses code
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> gets taken down
> wow wtf???
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby bman » Mon May 01, 2017 2:36 pm #287242

Wyzack wrote:> if you use code don't do thing
> uses code
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby DemonFiren » Mon May 01, 2017 2:51 pm #287245

for the love of god correct the topic title already
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby BeeSting12 » Mon May 01, 2017 3:41 pm #287261

ahahahah this is great... please leak more pics
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby Alipheese » Mon May 01, 2017 3:47 pm #287263

Godsie deserves it. He removed spiders as a playable race in dungeon master. Fuck him.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby Ricotez » Mon May 01, 2017 4:03 pm #287269

>this whole thread

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby Fiz Bump » Mon May 01, 2017 4:24 pm #287272

*ey man, pass the blunt over bro, lemme take a rip*
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby TheColdTurtle » Mon May 01, 2017 4:46 pm #287278

Godsring baby just release the code. Please.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby Slignerd » Mon May 01, 2017 5:11 pm #287284

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Clearly we're just afraid of them because of cool they are and all

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I guess it's time for us to unleash our 4chan armies.

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby Thunder11 » Mon May 01, 2017 5:21 pm #287286

Shadowlight213 wrote:No, lifeweb was smart and used the gpl loophole.
Their stuff is 100% legal, and we respect that.
Fallout13 used agpl code.

That was CM, afaik Lifeweb was built on Luna era baycode.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby Anonmare » Mon May 01, 2017 5:32 pm #287288

>Hey fam you can use our code as long as you follow this agreement
>Sure man
>*stops following agreement*
>Mate why aren't you following our agreement?
>Fuck you lmao
>Alright fam we're gonna have to DMCA you
>wtf yuo are nazi!!!

Is that the gist of it?
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby DrPillzRedux » Mon May 01, 2017 5:40 pm #287291

The funny thing is the inner circlejerk of that server thinks people here want the code. Protip: no one wants the shitty code to a shitty ss13 ripoff. The host just doesn't want to lose his income from it and the circlejerk doesn't want to lose their exclusive club of the only friends they have in their lives.

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby Wyzack » Mon May 01, 2017 5:47 pm #287294

Anonmare wrote:>Hey fam you can use our code as long as you follow this agreement
>Sure man
>*stops following agreement*
>Mate why aren't you following our agreement?
>Fuck you lmao
>Alright fam we're gonna have to DMCA you
>wtf yuo are nazi!!!

Is that the gist of it?


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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby John_Oxford » Mon May 01, 2017 7:13 pm #287319

its not the fact that your dcmaing them im against

i don't really care, i just want to play F13, this is directly affecting it and therefore it is bad

loads of people feel this way
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby D&B » Mon May 01, 2017 7:34 pm #287323

If they released the code someone else could host and you could play.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby Cik » Mon May 01, 2017 7:36 pm #287324

lmao dude just open source your code
>implying pretty much everything MSO does is not right and just

no exceptions MSO is a pure-hearted knight of the GPL

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby Qbopper » Mon May 01, 2017 8:02 pm #287331

Cik wrote:lmao dude just open source your code
>implying pretty much everything MSO does is not right and just

no exceptions MSO is a pure-hearted knight of the GPL


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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby tacolizard » Mon May 01, 2017 8:05 pm #287332

What's godring saying about our code being stolen? From what i've heard, the original ss13 source was stolen, so is he making a valid claim? Also, what exactly is his argument and why is it wrong?
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Unread postby cedarbridge » Mon May 01, 2017 8:27 pm #287337

John_Oxford wrote:its not the fact that your dcmaing them im against

i don't really care, i just want to play F13, this is directly affecting it and therefore it is bad

loads of people feel this way

Then those loads of people, yourself included, can convince them to stop being law-breaking faggots.

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