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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by cedarbridge » #290383

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their current legal defense is a hilariously stupid misinterpretation of the license that they could have read the FAQ and realized was wrong, so I'm curious if this will actually escalate
We're waiting for the lawsuit to go through which means lots of motions to dismiss and back and forth.
It's out of our hands technically speaking.
Technically its still negotiations. There hasn't been a filing yet.
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Post by J_Madison » #290455

Then it's out of our hands unless someone wishes to take direct action.
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Post by kust » #290506

whats the difference between fallout13 and goonstation ? or is goon coded from scratch ? while fallout13 is based of tg/ the old goon release ?
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IIRC gonnstation code traces his lineage back to the original USB drive which was stolen from the creator of ss13
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Post by Remie Richards » #290538

Grazyn wrote:IIRC gonnstation code traces his lineage back to the original USB drive which was stolen from the creator of ss13
all SS13 does.
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Post by Grazyn » #290543

I mean, without branching. Are there even still surviving branches that forked before the first goonstation public release?
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Post by iamgoofball » #290548

Goon isn't in violation because we're technically a fork of THEM. They can do whatever the fuck they want with their code since it's MIT, and not (A)GPLv3.
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Post by kust » #290557

iamgoofball wrote:Goon isn't in violation because we're technically a fork of THEM. They can do whatever the fuck they want with their code since it's MIT, and not (A)GPLv3.
oh ok. I thought that goon and tg were based on the old build.
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Grazyn wrote:I mean, without branching. Are there even still surviving branches that forked before the first goonstation public release?
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also isn't it DMCA not DCMA?
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Bawhoppennn wrote:also isn't it DMCA not DCMA?
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Grazyn wrote:IIRC gonnstation code traces his lineage back to the original USB drive which was stolen from the creator of ss13
stolen USB story was a myth iirc but i don't remember where i heard that

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Whats the status of the icons/art though? How much of it is totally original?
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Post by TheColdTurtle » #290856

Ask d4no for how many sprites are original, I know he sprites some stuff like metal armor and leather jackets.
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Oldman Robustin wrote:Whats the status of the icons/art though? How much of it is totally original?
extreme ballpark number, wjohnston would be able to answer more accurately: about 85% is original (aka: made by the coders, or me/WJ/nienhaus)
we still have turbo old sprites in there somewhere, walls come to mind
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I only did a chunk of the sprites. The old FO13 build already had a bunch of original assets, so I just contributed what I could. There's a handful of other people that have sprited for the project as well. I'm probably going to hold off on doing anymore work until all this blows over, though.
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Oldman Robustin wrote:Whats the status of the icons/art though? How much of it is totally original?
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation#license I'm not sure the art assets will be material when they are licensed under a different, and seemingly more lax, license that permits Fallout13's use of them.
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Danowar wrote:Image

I only did a chunk of the sprites. The old FO13 build already had a bunch of original assets, so I just contributed what I could. There's a handful of other people that have sprited for the project as well. I'm probably going to hold off on doing anymore work until all this blows over, though.
Why don't you want people to use your sprites?
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smugdog wrote:
Danowar wrote:Image

I only did a chunk of the sprites. The old FO13 build already had a bunch of original assets, so I just contributed what I could. There's a handful of other people that have sprited for the project as well. I'm probably going to hold off on doing anymore work until all this blows over, though.
Why don't you want people to use your sprites?
Would anyone on /tg/ actually use them, though? Or would they just dump all of the clothing into the costume vending machine and promptly forget about them? The only thing I made with /tg/ in mind were the e-sword sprites, but it didn't seem like anyone on the coderbus wanted them.
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Danowar wrote:
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Danowar wrote:Image

I only did a chunk of the sprites. The old FO13 build already had a bunch of original assets, so I just contributed what I could. There's a handful of other people that have sprited for the project as well. I'm probably going to hold off on doing anymore work until all this blows over, though.
Why don't you want people to use your sprites?
Would anyone on /tg/ actually use them, though? Or would they just dump all of the clothing into the costume vending machine and promptly forget about them? The only thing I made with /tg/ in mind were the e-sword sprites, but it didn't seem like anyone on the coderbus wanted them.
its more of no maintainer is going to accept my PR if i make it
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PKPenguin321 wrote:
Grazyn wrote:IIRC gonnstation code traces his lineage back to the original USB drive which was stolen from the creator of ss13
stolen USB story was a myth iirc but i don't remember where i heard that

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there was no stolen USB, an angry dev named AZA got pissy with another dev named Murrawhip and posted everything on the forums, AZA was banned and a month later the powers that were had a vote for an open source ss13, titled openss13, which saw numerous iterations before a goon recoded the game and it was hosted by a guy named persh

where did you get a USB drive?
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IcePacks wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Grazyn wrote:IIRC gonnstation code traces his lineage back to the original USB drive which was stolen from the creator of ss13
stolen USB story was a myth iirc but i don't remember where i heard that

paging icepacks the ancient one
there was no stolen USB, an angry dev named AZA got pissy with another dev named Murrawhip and posted everything on the forums, AZA was banned and a month later the powers that we're had a vote for an open source ss13, titled openss13, which saw numerous iterations before a goon recoded the game and it was hosted by a guy named persh

where did you get a USB drive?
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Post by TehSteveo » #291265

USB Story is just something that gained traction over the years as a story that's be reported over and over. As to why, I'd argue it generally makes a better story that someone stole this USB thumb drive from their friend who trusted them, to release the code to the community at large after some sort of disagreement that they had. It sounds better than someone got drunk and angry then released the code on forums because...drunk and angry.
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AZA might have had a lot of awkward temper tantrums but if he hadn't had such a shitty relationship with his crotchety friends we wouldn't be here
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Who knows, maybe they would've perfected the ultimate atmospheric simulator and solved global warming
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Post by oranges » #291314

Danowar wrote:
smugdog wrote:
Danowar wrote:Image

I only did a chunk of the sprites. The old FO13 build already had a bunch of original assets, so I just contributed what I could. There's a handful of other people that have sprited for the project as well. I'm probably going to hold off on doing anymore work until all this blows over, though.
Why don't you want people to use your sprites?
Would anyone on /tg/ actually use them, though? Or would they just dump all of the clothing into the costume vending machine and promptly forget about them? The only thing I made with /tg/ in mind were the e-sword sprites, but it didn't seem like anyone on the coderbus wanted them.
That doesn't answer my question
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Post by NikNakFlak » #291362

I think the USB story is real though because the guy who created SS13 has been in coderbus a few times and talked about it?
Maybe I fabricated that memory...
if he ever joins again, we should ask
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Rockdtben wrote:
IcePacks wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Grazyn wrote:IIRC gonnstation code traces his lineage back to the original USB drive which was stolen from the creator of ss13
stolen USB story was a myth iirc but i don't remember where i heard that

paging icepacks the ancient one
there was no stolen USB, an angry dev named AZA got pissy with another dev named Murrawhip and posted everything on the forums, AZA was banned and a month later the powers that we're had a vote for an open source ss13, titled openss13, which saw numerous iterations before a goon recoded the game and it was hosted by a guy named persh

where did you get a USB drive?
Confirmed by oldfag. Double confirmed by 2nd oldfag. AZA was also a huge drunk. Probably still is. (USB thing is probably just urban legend crap.)
USB story was on the history page on the wiki for a while iirc. Just a largely perpetuated myth
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Grazyn wrote:Who knows, maybe they would've perfected the ultimate atmospheric simulator and solved global warming
you did not see the original devs

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NikNakFlak wrote:I think the USB story is real though because the guy who created SS13 has been in coderbus a few times and talked about it?
Maybe I fabricated that memory...
if he ever joins again, we should ask
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>bumping a sticky.
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oh wait shit what i got stickied?
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dude not only that but this thread is linked on the front page.
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just gonna casually edit all the content to be shilling and shitposting, publicity noted i am now top shitposter you are to regard me as such or be deported @pillz
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Are negotiations still ongoing?
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Ouch.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by ohnopigeons » #292654

It's for legal fees but not for tg/the GPL DMCA, or so they proclaim.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by Haevacht » #292657

Saw something that mentioned there was a personal issue relating to custody. Can;t remember where I saw it so this is hell hearsay but sounds like Godsring is in several pickles.

One is easily solved.

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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by DrPillzRedux » #292662

>godsring is too busy with another lawsuit to be able to deal with a tg one

Now is the time, MSO.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by Danowar » #292663

Seems like the FO13 servers were getting ddos'd earlier. No clue who the perpetrator was, though.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by Slignerd » #292705

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He's got undeniable proof in the form of a confession that we're the ones behind the attack.
It would appear that I'm a high RP weeb who hates roleplay and anime.
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by Nilons » #292711

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He's got undeniable proof in the form of a confession that we're the ones behind the attack.
He's got some random dickhead saying it. If it was mso, an admin, or a maintainer it would have weight. Tgstation is not responsible for what random dickheads say
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Re: MSO DCMA F13 Claim?

Post by TheColdTurtle » #292713

Local man with a shit name doesn't understand sarcasm
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