Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
- iamgoofball
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Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
I can't post in the actual thread so I'm going to post in reply here instead.
Something you have to realize as security is two things.
1. You will be ahelped if you do/don't do your ""job"" properly. You'll get ahelp'd if you kill the bad guys for trying to murder you. You'll get ahelp'd if you don't kill the bad guys for trying to murder you and they succeed.
2. You better be a real fast talker because of the above, because you will get hounded.
Casualties skyrocket in horde mode roundtypes because the half of the station that isn't converted to either side will immediately start fucking with both sides. Then they ahelp when they get killed for acting like a rev during rev because "I WASNT A REV WHY DIDNT THEY IMPLANT ME DESPITE CARGO BEING OVERRUN ENTIRELY AND THE LAST IMPLANTS IN THE BRIG ALREADY USED UP ;_; ADMINS PLS BAN"
I was ahelped once because I put a guy in the gulag for 500 points for stealing the hand teleporter, a known steal objective, and using it to commit more heists of stupid bullshit.
I was ahelped once because I killed a few assistants who decided roundstart what they needed to do was smash all the windows to the HoP's office, beat him up, take his ID, and destroy the entire HoP Line and computer.
You could perfectly execute a rev round totally peacefully, implant everyone, and you will get ahelped for making people wait on implants and making chair cuff lines in cargo.
You could perfectly execute a rev round murdering all the head revs and they'll whine in OOC that you killed them and ahelp.
You could go on a mass rev spree after announcing that no implant + being shifty = ur ded kiddo nothin personell *unzips katana* because cargo is literally gone, and kill the head revs this way and you'll get ahelped.
No matter what you do, it becomes an OOC issue.
And so, I would rather call the shuttle and minimize my incoming ahelps than spend more time on station getting maximized ahelps.
Everyone is mad if you're security. You cannot appease any side. They will simply be mad you didn't go further, even if there was no further.
Something you have to realize as security is two things.
1. You will be ahelped if you do/don't do your ""job"" properly. You'll get ahelp'd if you kill the bad guys for trying to murder you. You'll get ahelp'd if you don't kill the bad guys for trying to murder you and they succeed.
2. You better be a real fast talker because of the above, because you will get hounded.
Casualties skyrocket in horde mode roundtypes because the half of the station that isn't converted to either side will immediately start fucking with both sides. Then they ahelp when they get killed for acting like a rev during rev because "I WASNT A REV WHY DIDNT THEY IMPLANT ME DESPITE CARGO BEING OVERRUN ENTIRELY AND THE LAST IMPLANTS IN THE BRIG ALREADY USED UP ;_; ADMINS PLS BAN"
I was ahelped once because I put a guy in the gulag for 500 points for stealing the hand teleporter, a known steal objective, and using it to commit more heists of stupid bullshit.
I was ahelped once because I killed a few assistants who decided roundstart what they needed to do was smash all the windows to the HoP's office, beat him up, take his ID, and destroy the entire HoP Line and computer.
You could perfectly execute a rev round totally peacefully, implant everyone, and you will get ahelped for making people wait on implants and making chair cuff lines in cargo.
You could perfectly execute a rev round murdering all the head revs and they'll whine in OOC that you killed them and ahelp.
You could go on a mass rev spree after announcing that no implant + being shifty = ur ded kiddo nothin personell *unzips katana* because cargo is literally gone, and kill the head revs this way and you'll get ahelped.
No matter what you do, it becomes an OOC issue.
And so, I would rather call the shuttle and minimize my incoming ahelps than spend more time on station getting maximized ahelps.
Everyone is mad if you're security. You cannot appease any side. They will simply be mad you didn't go further, even if there was no further.
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
As has been posted 900001 times if you get PM'd as sec its like 90% of the time just trying to hear out your side of the story to appease the person doing it please don't fucking piss your drawers over it thank you in advance
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
^
Pretty much, even if you are a dick, most of the time the 'mins will just go 'you're a dick mate' and then wander off.
Pretty much, even if you are a dick, most of the time the 'mins will just go 'you're a dick mate' and then wander off.
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
You shouldn't have to appease them.
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
It takes <30 seconds of your time to write an answer and if you're reeeeaaallll busy you can just say "Please give me a minute to respond" and then respond when you have a chance!
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
Yeah but you can still get noted for stuff that you had to do at the moment/was warranted.
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
does goof even play* sec?
* as in actually put forth some effort instead of whatever meme of the round they decided to run?
* as in actually put forth some effort instead of whatever meme of the round they decided to run?
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
How can you make so many posts about how RP is dead and you wish players wouldn't powergame and then complain that a player is making up his own fun and not putting in "effort"Atlanta-Ned wrote:does goof even play* sec?
* as in actually put forth some effort instead of whatever meme of the round they decided to run?
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
1) Being ahelped, while disrupting the flow of your round, ultimately means nothing. All it means is "Hey this guy says he was killed for no raisins, how much is he lying" in 90% of cases.
2) Why is your title unrelated to what's going on in the thread
3) Being aPMed just means the admins want to talk to you jesus christ why are sec players so edgy about it. It means you won, you made the shitter mad enough to cry to mommy. Relish the "Urist McGreytide says he was gulagged for no reason, can you explain what happened". It's second only to IC in OOC by arrested people for salving the holes in your soul playing sec leaves.
4) on the other hand some admins are griff enabling turdburglars not naming any names who'll silently note you without telling you for playing a competent sec during an emergency
2) Why is your title unrelated to what's going on in the thread
3) Being aPMed just means the admins want to talk to you jesus christ why are sec players so edgy about it. It means you won, you made the shitter mad enough to cry to mommy. Relish the "Urist McGreytide says he was gulagged for no reason, can you explain what happened". It's second only to IC in OOC by arrested people for salving the holes in your soul playing sec leaves.
4) on the other hand some admins are griff enabling turdburglars not naming any names who'll silently note you without telling you for playing a competent sec during an emergency
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There is a lot of very bizarre nonsense being talked on this forum. I shall now remain silent and logoff until my points are vindicated.
Player who complainted over being killed for looting cap office wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am Hey there, I'm Virescent, the super evil person who made the stupid appeal and didn't think it through enough. Just came here to say: screech, retards. Screech and writhe like the worms you are. Your pathetic little cries will keep echoing around for a while before quietting down. There is one great outcome from this: I rised up the blood pressure of some of you shitheads and lowered your lifespan. I'm honestly tempted to do this more often just to see you screech and writhe more, but that wouldn't be cool of me. So come on haters, show me some more of your high blood pressure please.
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
Where were you when atlanta_ded was put in the fucking grave by kor
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
The machinery is so greased when I talk with sec that they don't even bother waiting for the question.
"Hey got a sec?"
"He spaced the clown"
"Thanks"
*resolve ticket*
"Hey got a sec?"
"He spaced the clown"
"Thanks"
*resolve ticket*
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
Yeah this is less me complaining about the admins more the fact everything equals adminhelp that mofo
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
I still want an extension to the banbaiting rules that if you lie in a frivolous ahelp you get done for banbaiting. That would put a stop to "Sec permabrigged me for no reason"
kieth4 wrote: infrequently shitting yourself is fine imo
There is a lot of very bizarre nonsense being talked on this forum. I shall now remain silent and logoff until my points are vindicated.
Player who complainted over being killed for looting cap office wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am Hey there, I'm Virescent, the super evil person who made the stupid appeal and didn't think it through enough. Just came here to say: screech, retards. Screech and writhe like the worms you are. Your pathetic little cries will keep echoing around for a while before quietting down. There is one great outcome from this: I rised up the blood pressure of some of you shitheads and lowered your lifespan. I'm honestly tempted to do this more often just to see you screech and writhe more, but that wouldn't be cool of me. So come on haters, show me some more of your high blood pressure please.
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
Once, just once, I want to give the HoS some junk food and have him throw it in a cell.Not-Dorsidarf wrote:I still want an extension to the banbaiting rules that if you lie in a frivolous ahelp you get done for banbaiting. That would put a stop to "Sec permabrigged me for no reason"
Just so I can ahelp "sec permabrigged me 4no raisins".
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/27172Not-Dorsidarf wrote:I still want an extension to the banbaiting rules that if you lie in a frivolous ahelp you get done for banbaiting. That would put a stop to "Sec permabrigged me for no reason"
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
Not sure why people are against the PR - if you mute someone grom ahelps and they get griffed it's tough shit, why not extend that to a harsher punishment (without jumping to servee bans)?Kor wrote:https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/27172Not-Dorsidarf wrote:I still want an extension to the banbaiting rules that if you lie in a frivolous ahelp you get done for banbaiting. That would put a stop to "Sec permabrigged me for no reason"
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Stupid games, stupid prizes - if you don't want to be banned from ahelps don't abuse them
I'll concede that they could be misused, but we have ban appeals for that, and there are many tools admins can abuse that we trust them to be responsible with
(Idve posted on the pr but can't atm)
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
Fucking fund it
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
Can we just pre emptively ahelp ban adam
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
Lets just serverban him for being a colossal pussyD&B wrote:Can we just pre emptively ahelp ban adam
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
Lying during an ahelp has always been an express lane to bantown, not sure why that would even need to be clarified.
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
I came into this thread hoping that more people were seeing the fact that early shuttle calls are terrible, terrible, terrible.
I am disappointed.
I am disappointed.
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
Imagine loving yourself so much that you make a long winded post saying fuck you in a few different ways and then jerking off to it so much that you decide to put it in your own sig
Just imagine
Just imagine
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
just THINK about the nut he must have busted jerking off after that post
THINK
THINK
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Re: Shuttle Calls shouldn't be because the game happened
I get bwoinked often and I can nearly always tell why they're doing it-- because I dunked some chucklefuck and they got assblasted. When I explain my story they pretty much always leave me alone.captain sawrge wrote:As has been posted 900001 times if you get PM'd as sec its like 90% of the time just trying to hear out your side of the story to appease the person doing it please don't fucking piss your drawers over it thank you in advance
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