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Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:10 pm
by starmute
I'll start.
I miss old mining .
Shit was relaxing. You could put on some jams, look for some ore and not worry about what is going to shank you. The only relaxing jobs nowdays are bartender, cook and janitor.

I miss AI malfunction

Seemed like a fun mode at the time. All the stuff is in traitor but I miss how it was a race against time.

I miss secbots
Hate to say it but those murderous bastards were fun to fight against

I miss lings having to kill you

Yeah it takes you out of the round, but it seemed funny as hell that the clown was fake ERPING and then sucked out someones organs

I miss not having clock cult in the rotation.

I'm not a fan of the balance in clock-cult but some people love it.

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:03 pm
by captain sawrge
malf wasn't very good because you only got to play if you secured insulated gloves in time and then the round just became hide and seek for keeps
secborgs encouraged a really bad playstyle
lings are still only good for murderboner

ill concede the last one

i miss supercrayon and burts
i miss metroid magic and it being totally undocumented outside of the code itself and the few players that had done their own notes on it
i miss nitroglycerin explosions being unlogged and exceeding bomb cap
i miss spending rounds just searching for ERPers and ganking them
i miss all my old friends i haven't spoken to in years and years
i miss recognizing every name in the community

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:43 pm
by Munchlax
Powergrabs

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:52 pm
by Qbopper
bit of a meme answer but I miss not knowing so much and being surprised by everything - you can unconsciously powergame when you don't know what's going on

captain sawrge wrote:i miss metroid magic and it being totally undocumented outside of the code itself and the few players that had done their own notes on it


I don't remember this, can you explain what you mean by metroid magic

starmute wrote:I miss old mining .
Shit was relaxing. You could put on some jams, look for some ore and not worry about what is going to shank you. The only relaxing jobs nowdays are bartender, cook and janitor.


i have nothing of value to say other than :+1:

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:56 pm
by captain sawrge
before slimes were slimes they were roros and before that they were metroids and you could extract their cores. they were randomly chosen to be one of a few different types that mostly cover the same shit as current slime cores but they all did at least 2-3 things based on what reagent you injected in them

one of them could give you the retrovirus which iirc copied the host's dna onto everyone that caught it. one could spawn food including working roburgers. that one also spawned hostile mobs.
one gave corn oil and since this was before botany had the wacky dna shit it was the easiest way to get it in large enough quantities to make chem grenades that exceeded max cap bombs.

occasionally i would make a ton of nitro grenades as antag and just whip em everywhere and make department sized holes all over the place

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:45 pm
by AnonymousNow
Also miss old mining. Rounds were longer, and you could zone out while contributing to the station. Plus the feeling of isolation in space on the asteroid was perfect - very much part of the SS13 experience for me.

Is malf completely out of the rotation? It went through so many bloody iterations to work, with the satellite and everything, but people never really felt it, I think. I miss that, too.

I'm personally fond of clock cult, though they seem underpowered (almost sabotaged).

I miss it being viable to break windows with people. Now it's all too fast.

I miss seeing basilisks on the regular. They had more character than our current flying skulls.

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:23 pm
by Armhulen
old mining was really neat, i miss it too

Spoiler:
NSFW:
i miss shadowlings

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:51 pm
by AnonymousNow
Armhulen wrote:old mining was really neat, i miss it too

Spoiler:
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i miss shadowlings


Spoiler:
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same

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:00 pm
by Armhulen
AnonymousNow wrote:
Armhulen wrote:old mining was really neat, i miss it too

Spoiler:
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i miss shadowlings


Spoiler:
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same

Spoiler:
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stand tall for titanfall

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:32 pm
by Qbopper
captain sawrge wrote:before slimes were slimes they were roros and before that they were metroids and you could extract their cores. they were randomly chosen to be one of a few different types that mostly cover the same shit as current slime cores but they all did at least 2-3 things based on what reagent you injected in them

one of them could give you the retrovirus which iirc copied the host's dna onto everyone that caught it. one could spawn food including working roburgers. that one also spawned hostile mobs.
one gave corn oil and since this was before botany had the wacky dna shit it was the easiest way to get it in large enough quantities to make chem grenades that exceeded max cap bombs.

occasionally i would make a ton of nitro grenades as antag and just whip em everywhere and make department sized holes all over the place


o, thanks

I remembered something about roros but not metroids i guess im not enough of an oldfag

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:46 pm
by AnonymousNow
Kind of only tangentally related, but Jesu J. Grist, I'm glad we never stuck to those snail goliaths. Ugly, horrible things.

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:59 pm
by onleavedontatme
I miss AI malfunction


Still in the game

I miss old mining .


Minecraft is a better comfy relaxing mining game if you want to do a solo thing dont play a multiplayer game

I miss secbots
Hate to say it but those murderous bastards were fun to fight against

I miss lings having to kill you

Yeah it takes you out of the round, but it seemed funny as hell that the clown was fake ERPING and then sucked out someones organs

I miss not having clock cult in the rotation.

I'm not a fan of the balance in clock-cult but some people love it.


Same

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:30 am
by bandit
I miss when Kor didn't post jaded replies to everything

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:52 am
by Lexorion
bandit wrote:I miss when Kor didn't post jaded replies to everything

Kor is pure and innocent, he's telling the TRUTH!

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:52 am
by captain sawrge
bandit wrote:I miss when Kor didn't post jaded replies to everything

>put effort into trying to solve one of the biggest problems with job depth, i.e. that every job is a boring grind with no depth
>introduce new mob mechanics, sprites, lore, and an entire new z-level
>people constantly whine that you put too much effort in and they had more fun playing a braindead singleplayer idle clicker
>wehhhh y u so jaded

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:54 am
by TheColdTurtle
bandit wrote:I miss when Kor didn't post jaded replies to everything

shut the fuck up no one wants to see you post

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:55 am
by Armhulen
I'd like miners more if they weren't the away mission of 2017 with the silly amounts of broken loot they can get

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:07 am
by MMMiracles
Bring back sandwich windows.

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:49 am
by AnonymousNow
To clarify, I do like new mining quite a bit, but it's like the difference between Resident Evil pre-and-post 4. Former is slower and atmosphere contributed a lot; latter is faster and more action orientated.

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:10 am
by D&B
All the shots I don't make

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:16 am
by Qbopper
Kor wrote:
I miss old mining .


Minecraft is a better comfy relaxing mining game if you want to do a solo thing dont play a multiplayer game


yes, because lavaland is so much more interactive with other players

if you're going to do the usual kor cynic post you could at least try to make sense

edit: like, to be clear, it's not me taking issue with you disliking old mining or whatever, it's that your rebuttal isn't even logical

there's not much difference between going off station to old mining or to lavaland as far as the rest of the people playing on the station are concerned

edit 2: okay that was hyper aggro and I'm regretting posting it but I'm not going to delete it like a retard

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:45 am
by onleavedontatme
Working with other miners against real challenges and getting upgrades from RD that actually matter in a hostile setting and dealing with ghost roles that cam be allies or enemies or anywhere inbetween is far more player interaction than old mining where you clicked on an unresponive and featureless enviroment by yourself

How are you spamming cynic and jaded when I am saying something is fun and good and you guys are the ones whining? How does that make sense?

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:46 am
by cedarbridge
I miss secborgs. I also miss lecturing secborgs about their laws as an engieborg.

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:52 am
by onleavedontatme
Qbopper wrote:
Kor wrote:
I miss old mining .


Minecraft is a better comfy relaxing mining game if you want to do a solo thing dont play a multiplayer game


yes, because lavaland is so much more interactive with other players

if you're going to do the usual kor cynic post you could at least try to make sense

edit: like, to be clear, it's not me taking issue with you disliking old mining or whatever, it's that your rebuttal isn't even logical

there's not much difference between going off station to old mining or to lavaland as far as the rest of the people playing on the station are concerned

edit 2: okay that was hyper aggro and I'm regretting posting it but I'm not going to delete it like a retard


Image

Post your face when some guy who has made 3 grammar fixes in his entire history of playing SS13 and then cries on the forums that the game isn't how he likes it calls someone who has made 650 PRs in the past year and half and 2k+ PRs total cynical for saying the work he has put into the game is fun and appreciated by a majority of players

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:57 am
by Wyzack
mfw

Image

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:04 am
by oranges
kor you're usually not so defensive, is your gf on her period or something

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:04 am
by onleavedontatme
No I'm drunk

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:12 am
by onleavedontatme
Intoxication or not though Qbopper still made an atrocious post without any content or meaning

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:16 am
by Wyzack
I miss being able to play the game without having to worry about it being clock cult

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:17 am
by Armhulen
Wyzack wrote:I miss being able to play the game without having to worry about it being clock cult

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:10 am
by MimicFaux
I miss Franz Krake.
His salt was legendary.

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:58 am
by Ricotez
I miss when sawrge understood what the subject of a thread is about. For example, this thread is about "what do you miss", not "why are you wrong to miss this".

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:50 am
by oranges
I miss guncargo

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:01 pm
by confused rock
I miss when catgirls didn't exist
Honestly I miss xenos feeling rare
Honestly I miss flashes stunning people
I mean I stopped playing because stuff got fucked up and I couldn't test any changes I made so I guess I miss when it worked too.

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:19 pm
by bandit
I miss old-style ling and the attendant sense of paranoia one felt about one's coworkers disappearing or acting differently or basically everything, and the fact that it forced you to interact with others and not be alone.

I miss malf being its own gamemode, really gamemodes not being talked about rightly in terms of "conversion or non-conversion?"

I miss telescience.

I miss when admins ran larger-scale narrative events (and yes I realize I am part of that problem)

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:27 pm
by CPTANT
I miss fusion.

Because fucking up the entire station with 10^9 K superheated gas in the vents was hilarious.

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:31 pm
by captain sawrge
Ricotez wrote:I miss when sawrge understood what the subject of a thread is about. For example, this thread is about "what do you miss", not "why are you wrong to miss this".

I genuinely am curious as to how so many people can apparently miss malf, a game mode which was comprised of a half hour of literally nothing followed by you dying if you touch anything and only five players with space suits and insulated gloves getting to play. Even then they just get to so hide and seek from hell while you desperately try not to die to the unstunnable army of sec borgs chasing you through shocked doors and plasma filled halls.

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:33 pm
by captain sawrge
Same goes for oldling which, much like malf, was almost universally hated at the time because it was more often than not everyone just getting picked off by an undetectable half hour weaken+mute in lowpop followed by three hours of being a ghost because the rounds never ended or its high lol and there's no where for lings to hide so they all die in ten minutes and the round goes on for three hours because there's no antags and everyone got bored and logged out.

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:03 pm
by Sometinyprick
stungloves

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:20 pm
by Qbopper
Kor wrote:Intoxication or not though Qbopper still made an atrocious post without any content or meaning


1. yeah it was a shitty post, did you not see the part where I basically edited it immediately to say "fuck I regret this"? I'm not going to delete it because that's kinda stupid, but I thought it was clear that I knew it was retarded right away

2. let me try and explain what I meant without resorting to using the word cynical (or being a shit), because you seem to have focused entirely on that

if you want to do a solo thing dont play a multiplayer game


this makes me think "what the fuck is this argument even supposed to mean, lavaland is still off the station"

Working with other miners against real challenges and getting upgrades from RD that actually matter in a hostile setting and dealing with ghost roles that cam be allies or enemies or anywhere inbetween is far more player interaction than old mining where you clicked on an unresponive and featureless enviroment by yourself


this is a valid point and you're right, but I'd still argue that the majority of the time a person playing on lavaland is not really interacting with the round at hand - but whatever, that's something we can disagree on if you still don't think that's true, it's not something I'd take personally

I'm not going to play the excuse game for why I made a shitty post where I was a dick, but for unrelated reasons I was unhappy and that influenced what i was writing, and it's no different from saying something irl because you're pissy that you'll regret, so I genuinely apologize

3. I have a personal dislike of lavaland, but that doesn't mean I can't recognize that the majority of the people playing the game enjoy it

4. if we're going to call out retarded posts:

Post your face when some guy who has made 3 grammar fixes in his entire history of playing SS13 and then cries on the forums that the game isn't how he likes it calls someone who has made 650 PRs in the past year and half and 2k+ PRs total cynical for saying the work he has put into the game is fun and appreciated by a majority of players


-playing the "look at his pr count lol" card is retarded even ironically, who said that you need a high pr count to criticize things? obviously what I said warranted calling me out, but this was just as dumb as my original post
-I was getting bitchy over the "go play minecraft if you don't like it" comment, I don't really have a strong opinion on lavaland because I just don't interact with the stuff I don't enjoy - and saying "look he's crying about the game lol" in a thread called "Anything you miss?" is also stupid
-I called you cynical because I see a lot of your posts on the forums appear that way, and that's the initial impression you make, and that's something I think a few people would agree with - you have a habit of coming off like that, even if it's not intended to be that way

if the post is supposed to be ironic, that's also dumb

like, c'mon, I get that I was being a shitheel, but I've gotta stand up for myself here, that post was also retarded

anyways this shit has gone on long enough and I doubt kor will even end up reading my apology, so back on topic:




stuff that isn't a reply to kor is down here

Armhulen wrote:
Wyzack wrote:I miss being able to play the game without having to worry about it being clock cult


arm can back me up on this one, shit, most of the rounds where I decide to sit down and play I get immediately converted or killed by a clock cult, it's a fucking curse

CosmicScientist wrote:Slapcrafting because I learned the recipes off by heart, damn it. And wirecutter stunprods for the pinch attack text.

The grab icon to reassure me I'm holding onto someone, in which hand and if I'm choking them or not. Grabbing two spacemen at once.


I still try to slapcraft before remembering the menu and yeah it's hard for me to tell if byond ate my click or if I grabbed people sometimes

captain sawrge wrote:Same goes for oldling which, much like malf, was almost universally hated at the time because it was more often than not everyone just getting picked off by an undetectable half hour weaken+mute in lowpop followed by three hours of being a ghost because the rounds never ended or its high lol and there's no where for lings to hide so they all die in ten minutes and the round goes on for three hours because there's no antags and everyone got bored and logged out.


yeah I loved the concept of oldlings but they were universally hated on a level that might even surpass the current hate for clock cult

Sometinyprick wrote:stungloves


lol

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:38 pm
by Aloraydrel
To unintelgiant too understand qbopper posts

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:39 pm
by Qbopper
i miss when aloraydrel had not yet gone completely insane

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:40 pm
by Remie Richards
Qbopper wrote:i miss when aloraydrel had not yet gone completely insane

this but apparently everyone lately.

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:42 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
This thread belongs in the salt mine because the amount of sodium you guys managed to catch in your vaginas over people liking things you dont could kill a man. Someone should splice some oyster DNA into you so you start producing pearls when you get an irritant in your flesh folds instead of bitchy posts

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:44 pm
by Qbopper
Super Aggro Crag wrote:This thread belongs in the salt mine because the amount of sodium you guys managed to catch in your vaginas over people liking things you dont could kill a man. Someone should splice some oyster DNA into you so you start producing pearls when you get an irritant in your flesh folds instead of bitchy posts


I think that would violate the laws of thermodynamics because we all know perpetual motion is a meme, but if you did that we could sell the pearls and fund the server to create more pearls etc

never mind you;d flood the market with pearls and their value would drop it's all ok

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:47 pm
by Aloraydrel
Qbopper wrote:i miss when aloraydrel had not yet gone completely insane


I'm not insane!

Sorry sweetie

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:16 pm
by AnonymousNow
What the fuck happened to this thread in my absence?

Whatever. I miss malf and hated oldling. Oldmalf had its charms for the crew at large as it encouraged player cooperation to work through a hostile environment, and I love that shit.

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:27 pm
by onleavedontatme
But newmalf can also trigger a countdown/bomb that forces everyone to work together to combat it

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:31 pm
by Lazengann
I miss when the only people allowed within one tile of you were your closest friends because of stungloves, parapens and parasting

Re: Anything you miss?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:50 pm
by D&B
I miss the black box.

Filling it with OP shit was the funniest thing me and others did as a pet project.

I miss old adamantine golems

They had some actual drawbacks instead of lmao ash immunity lmao passisve minibomb

I miss not having Ambrosia Gaia

You actually had to stay on top of your plants and it made it so much better when you harvested a bunch of stuff.