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What do you do as AI

Post by CPTANT » #335456

If nobody orders you around and no harm happens there is just not much to do.

Some rounds are just intensely boring as AI on asimov.

I usually set up the engine, but after that AI'ing becomes more of a sideshow while I watch youtube on my second monitor.

How do you prevent getting bored as AI?
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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by Anonmare » #335457

Mess with the non-Humans, override all the door timers on secure/external airlocks, optimise atmospherics/the engine, tell all the cleanbots to clean some stubborn stains that keep getting missed, make Nanotrasen propaganda announcements, monitor the cargo stock market etc.
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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by TheWiznard » #335458

CPTANT wrote:If nobody orders you around and no harm happens there is just not much to do.

Some rounds are just intensely boring as AI on asimov.

I usually set up the engine, but after that AI'ing becomes more of a sideshow while I watch youtube on my second monitor.

How do you prevent getting bored as AI?
you go to game preferences and set AI to low and Borg to high. I love long rounds but long rounds as an AI just killed my enjoyment of AI in general. Aside from the very rare chance of getting the ash walkers malf powers upgrade there just isn't anything the ai can do itself for enjoyment. With the addition of ai borg shells it's sort of fixed that I guess but you still need someone to make a dedicated shell for you.
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Post by Gun Hog » #335462

Ask Robotics to add AI mech beacons to all of the mechs, so you can go stomping around. You could also ask your Engiborg to hack a MULE for you, then use it to cart yourself around. If you are really, REALLY bored, ask the Clown or someone to visit you at your chamber to play music for you. (This, ironically, is one of the few positive encounters I have had with clowns)
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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by Not-Dorsidarf » #335578

Slow AI rounds where lots of things are happening but not the sort of thing you need to care about are fun in my opinion. And you can always declare that it's your borg's birthday and invite the whole crew to your core for a party as a last resort.
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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by Remie Richards » #335643

We should let the AI play chess against the RD (or anyone really but the RD makes sense)
or other games, like card games (such as bullshit, go fish)
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Post by Gun Hog » #335650

Remie Richards wrote:We should let the AI play chess against the RD (or anyone really but the RD makes sense)
or other games, like card games (such as bullshit, go fish)
Having holo-board games that two or more players can join (including silicons) sounds A-M-A-Z-I-N-G.
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Post by pubby » #335652

You can already play chess on the holodeck.

Not that you'd want to, but you can.
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Post by Remie Richards » #335671

Gun Hog wrote:
Remie Richards wrote:We should let the AI play chess against the RD (or anyone really but the RD makes sense)
or other games, like card games (such as bullshit, go fish)
Having holo-board games that two or more players can join (including silicons) sounds A-M-A-Z-I-N-G.
there's an old sprite in the game, which looks like a big PDA with a chessboard on it.
it was removed for not working or something.

that'd be where I'd start, atleast for a human->human version
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Post by Slignerd » #335720

It would appear that I'm a high RP weeb who hates roleplay and anime.
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Post by Drynwyn » #336321

Talk to people.
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Post by Ricotez » #336413

Not-Dorsidarf wrote:Slow AI rounds where lots of things are happening but not the sort of thing you need to care about are fun in my opinion. And you can always declare that it's your borg's birthday and invite the whole crew to your core for a party as a last resort.
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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by The Clowns Pocket » #337179

Not play as AI.

Seriously, by design you are a slave to the station and its people. There are only a handful of times when I actually want to play AI, normally when I can sit through a full round and want to babysit a bunch of retards.

I do like to remind the crew that Human Harm is evil and should be destroyed
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Post by Qbmax32 » #338442

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Post by AnonymousNow » #338450

The Clowns Pocket wrote:Not play as AI.

Seriously, by design you are a slave to the station and its people. There are only a handful of times when I actually want to play AI, normally when I can sit through a full round and want to babysit a bunch of retards.

I do like to remind the crew that Human Harm is evil and should be destroyed
It's tricky, because being slaved to someone can be one of the most entertaining things in the game (see: cyborgs, golems, stands), but being an AI makes you feel very weak indeed unless you're A) Good with atmos etc. and B) Not stuck with Asimov or C) Dealing with nonhuman opponents who idle beneath doors.
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Post by Jarek » #338456

Just sit back and do something else with the game running to the side and when things kick off or when you're asked to do something tab back in and do it then go back to whatever else.
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Post by Cobby » #338460

AnonymousNow wrote: It's tricky, because being slaved to someone can be one of the most entertaining things in the game (see: cyborgs, golems, stands)
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Post by Doctor Pork » #338470

i mostly dick around on the holopads

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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by oranges » #338476

open doors
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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by killerx09 » #338699

As someone who plays AI a LOT on Yogstation, we still have NTSL here.

-rename Poly/Captain
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-rename Clown/Poly
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MAGNI is fun.
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Post by Screemonster » #338736

Run a text adventure over the radio
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Post by Ricotez » #342310

I like to GLaDOS it up and make passive-aggressive insults about people's weights and intelligences.
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on the arrival shuttle, I saw the iconic toolbox on the ground. I clubbed myself in the head with it trying to figure out the controls.
Setting the tool box, now bloodied, back on the table; I went to heal myself with a medkit. I clubbed myself in the head with that too.
I've come a long ways from asking how to switch hands.
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The HoP just toolboxes someone to death out of nowhere, then gets speared by a chemist who saw him murder a guy, then the chemist gets beaten to death because someone else saw him kill the HoP.
Tele-man somehow dies and gets its looted by an atmos tech who managed to use it to send two nuke ops to lavaland, who were then surrounded by several very angry people from earlier and some extra golems on top of it.
Captain dies, gets cloned/revived, lasers the guy holding the disk into crit to take it back.
Some idiot tries to welderbomb the AI hiding out at mining for no discernible reason.
Two permabans and a dayban, i'm expecting a snarky appeal from one of them soon. What the fuck.
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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by CPTANT » #342313

Ricotez wrote:I like to GLaDOS it up and make passive-aggressive insults about people's weights and intelligences.
Ohw yeah, I regularly shittalk the crew.
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Post by bandit » #342338

killerx09 wrote:As someone who plays AI a LOT on Yogstation, we still have NTSL here.

-rename Poly/Captain
-open
-rename Clown/Poly
-open
-addclown everyone
-open
-addskeleton everyone
-open

MAGNI is fun.
you know there was a very good reason NTSL was removed right (and it doesn't have anything to do with gameplay)
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Post by Anonmare » #342340

Stated reason was that it lagged the server to death
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Post by CPTANT » #342514

You could do nice things with it though, like selectively muting people or impersonating them.
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Post by Not-Dorsidarf » #342518

true but everyone just stuck MAGNI script in at roundstart without fail
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Post by Rustledjimm » #342519

NTSL is actually one of the things I miss the most.

Nothing like swapping words just for a bit of fun.
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nothing like making all humans hiss and all lizards talk normally
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Post by Screemonster » #344250

basically it was taken out cause you could code things to the effect of

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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by DiamondSentinel » #344332

Let's see....

Get as many borg shells as I can (if it's a really long round, I try to get enough shells to play borg-scale chess), wire the solars/SM/etc. directly into the grid, cause tiny amounts of chaos and inconvenience across the station (depowering the lights from every APC, but leave everything else alone), spread disinformation that just annoys people, but not actually causes harm, hope that I get a non Asimovian lawset, get mechs, go mining, get someone to put up cameras in all of maintenance, etc.

Most of my stuff is surprisingly passive.

My favorite, though, is deliberately misinterpreting vague orders. "AI, door" can be interpreted many ways. "Yes, that's a door" is a nice response, and when they get more specific and say "open it" you just open a random door elsewhere on the station.
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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by Qbmax32 » #344352

DiamondSentinel wrote:if it's a really long round, I try to get enough shells to play borg-scale chess

setting up the holodeck chess sim, removing the pieces and replacing them with borgs during an extended round sounds hilarious
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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by DiamondSentinel » #344377

Qbmax32 wrote:
DiamondSentinel wrote:if it's a really long round, I try to get enough shells to play borg-scale chess

setting up the holodeck chess sim, removing the pieces and replacing them with borgs during an extended round sounds hilarious
Better yet, convert every crew member into borgs and play chess with them.
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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by kevinz000 » #344396

I think of things to code for AI to do when I'm bored as AI.
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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by JStheguy » #344425

Fuck with people in incredibly minor ways, like making the bartender's drinks dispenser pour random crap while he's trying to use it.
Yell about atmos and power alarms.
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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by cedarbridge » #344426

Shittalk the carbons on binary.
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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by huehuehue » #347015

one time there was this law that stated "Chickens must have all access." or something along those lines
my borgos interpreted everyone as a chicken for whatever reason
i then had to talk to them and convince them to bolt open every door for a presumably non-harmful area(*i.e access to most of medbay, bridge, some of engineering, etc.) because otherwise they would bolt open every single fucking door on the station including the core of the engine and all the airlocks which would cause harm and the entire station to go to shit
i tried also to convince them the chickens in said law were referring to birds but they wouldn't listen

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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by AnonymousNow » #347122

kevinz000 wrote:I think of things to code for AI to do when I'm bored as AI.
Please make hard-light projection units for holopads.
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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by BeeSting12 » #347123

AnonymousNow wrote:
kevinz000 wrote:I think of things to code for AI to do when I'm bored as AI.
Please make hard-light projection units for holopads.
kevinz and hardlight dont mix

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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by Gun Hog » #347754

How would you want these hard-light holograms to work? What would you want them to be able to do? How would you counter one being used as a weapon by a rogue AI?
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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by AnonymousNow » #347771

Gun Hog wrote:How would you want these hard-light holograms to work?
With sufficient research, a hard-light holographic unit can be created. This needs to be fit to a holopad by the researcher, to allow that holopad to use the hard light projector (which is done automatically whenever the AI uses that pad).
Gun Hog wrote:What would you want them to be able to do?
Allows the AI's hologram to act as a human within the range of that holopad, for all intents and purposes. It can interact with items and machinery, with all-access. Clothing left on the holopad will automatically be worn when the hologram is created, and dropped when the stops using the holopad.
Gun Hog wrote:How would you counter one being used as a weapon by a rogue AI?
Don't make hard-light projectors. Don't attach hard-light projectors. Be more robust than the AI; these holograms have 100 health and their holopads will need to recharge for a few minutes before they're usable again if they get killed.
Hornygranny wrote:It's not your codebase. It's our codebase. You can imply soft power as much as you want, but you don't have it. Division between the server and project is absolute. I'm not interested in reading dezzmont platitudes for the billionth time and won't be checking back in this thread.
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Fuck anti-roleplay suggestions and fuck Bay.

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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by killerx09 » #347774

Screemonster wrote:basically it was taken out cause you could code things to the effect of

Code: Select all

a: goto b
b: goto a
it's almost like allowing shitters from the internet to execute near-arbitrary code on your box is a bad idea
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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by Screemonster » #348178

AnonymousNow wrote:snip
I pictured Sierra Madre style holographic security guards that can only operate in range of the projector, but the holograms themselves can't be damaged
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Re: What do you do as AI

Post by Doctor Pork » #351862

Screemonster wrote:
AnonymousNow wrote:snip
I pictured Sierra Madre style holographic security guards that can only operate in range of the projector, but the holograms themselves can't be damaged
fund this etc. etc. :capid:
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