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Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:14 pm
by Man_Shroom
Swap Basil and Sibyl's maps for a day, specifically October first, so people can see if there are any changes that they like on the other map.
Spoiler:
It will also help even out the populations and avoid having one dead server and one overcrowded server of players with two different playstyles.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:34 pm
by Psyentific
But Basil runs ministation, and Mini is shit.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:59 pm
by Cipher3
He was probably thinking of MetaStation.


Buuuut.... 60 players on MiniStation... hehe... hehehehe....

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:55 pm
by Spacemanspark
Cipher3 wrote:60 players on MiniStation... hehe... hehehehe....

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:28 am
by Psyentific
Well now that you mention it, let's do it just to see what happens

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:33 am
by Jalleo
Psyentific wrote:Well now that you mention it, let's do it just to see what happens
I know what happens oh original forum how i miss tho ridiculously long links to link back to old helarious events.

Although I have learned a few new things about mechanics avaliable on that map today.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:28 am
by WJohnston
Cipher3 wrote:Buuuut.... 60 players on MiniStation... hehe... hehehehe....

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:40 am
by Mastigos
We did the high pop ministation back on Badger. It was incredible and awful. Also, I really wish HBL's incarnation of Ministation survived, it was 11/10.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:32 am
by Ricotez
God, overpopulated Ministation is just horrible. Absolutely horrible. There's no fun in it, because of a limited number of job slots most people are assistants and greytide like crazy.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:42 pm
by Miauw
Ricotez wrote:most people are assistants and greytide like crazy.
>implying this isn't true for sybil too

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:47 pm
by Steelpoint
Except Ministation would exemplify those problems. You have very few crew roles, about two Security Officers and then you throw in 40 assistants in a cramped station.

Ministation is interesting, but as the name suggests its not meant for a heavily populated server.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:02 pm
by bandit
Efficiency and Asteroid stations when

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:14 pm
by WJohnston
Both efficiency (all three maps) and asteroid station have stopped being developed months ago. There's not a huge number of new maps being made (except for allura), so this thread really only can go between metastation and box. And metastation has stopped being developed too.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:28 pm
by Scott
Only if it's Efficiency station 1 or Asteroid Station.
Steelpoint wrote:Except Ministation would exemplify those problems. You have very few crew roles, about two Security Officers and then you throw in 40 assistants in a cramped station.

Ministation is interesting, but as the name suggests its not meant for a heavily populated server.
Or they can get jobs.

Just imagine a station with 20 janitors. Both hazardous and squeaky clean. Beautiful.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:00 pm
by Incoming
This "lets trick sybil into playing something that isn't box!" stuff started SO MUCH DRAMA back when it was last attempted, I never want to experience it again.

People move to the server running box, it's been established.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:30 pm
by Scott
Incoming wrote:This "lets trick sybil into playing metastation"
Fixed that for you.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:03 pm
by Reimoo
WJohnston wrote:Both efficiency (all three maps) and asteroid station have stopped being developed months ago. There's not a huge number of new maps being made (except for allura), so this thread really only can go between metastation and box. And metastation has stopped being developed too.
I am trying to develop a map, but every design I come up with is shit. Mapping is frustrating, yo.

Plus, even if I (or anyone else for that matter) manages to release a map I still doubt it would be used since a large majority of this community revolves around boxstation and boxstation only.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:18 pm
by Scott
Box is perfection.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:59 pm
by Cipher3
Box has absolutely nothing that objectively makes it better. In fact, its layout and MetaStation's are rather similar, and so are their features. The difference is basically swapping out department locations a bit, but the essential parts such as Med-Sci are still paired.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:29 pm
by ColonicAcid
Holy shit stop arguing about whether box or metastation is better it's literally personal preference.
It's like arguing what's better pineapple pizza or pepperoni pizza. Like that's literally the retarded levels you go down to if you argue about that shit.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:41 pm
by Cipher3
This thread is very on-topic.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:45 am
by paprika
Metastation is incredibly outdated. If Metacide returns to update it for basil on /tg/code, maybe this can happen.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:15 am
by Psyentific
paprika wrote:Metastation is incredibly outdated. If Metacide returns to update it for basil on /tg/code, maybe this can happen.
Or maybe perhaps a certain NTStation and shitposter of some renown coder could take up the torch?

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:27 am
by Ikarrus
I'm fairly sure metastation still works. Travis checks that every time a PR is opened.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:58 pm
by paprika
Ikarrus wrote:I'm fairly sure metastation still works. Travis checks that every time a PR is opened.
It works, but... When I say outdated I mean a lot of things that could use with touching up. Things you and steelpoint have done on box for the gameplay should be on metastation as well. Icon changes need to be fixed manually, so there likely will be missing icons on the map.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:05 pm
by Steelpoint
Don't make us fix metastation. I've seen it and its fracking huge. I don't know about Ikkarus, but since I've never really played on Meta (At least outside of Sec once or twice) I can't rely on experience when it comes to changes.

If there is going to be a mass scale fix up of Metastation, there is going to have to be a list of things to do.

Also merge conflicts.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:40 pm
by paprika
It's alright, metacide is really eager to work on the map when he has people to work on it for. I think if he returns again he'll do some work on it.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:08 pm
by ColonicAcid
Steelpoint wrote:Don't make us fix metastation. I've seen it and its fracking huge.
I'm so angry i can't see.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:52 am
by miggles
metastation is not larger than box holy shit

also i would update it but id rather have meta do it
and also i cant be assed to fuck with github anymore

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:05 am
by Jordie0608
miggles wrote:metastation is not larger than box holy shit
Indeed, I've linked this so many times now.

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Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:09 am
by Steelpoint
When I mean by bigger I should have said that its far more compact and cramped in that Box.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:03 pm
by Cipher3
Metastation always felt more compact and closer together than box for me.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:13 pm
by paprika
It's not, it's just more cluttered.

Re: Swap maps for a celebration on October 1st

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:22 pm
by Incoming
Metastation isn't actually much larger than box in terms of strict tile counting, but it has much more public space which is where the "largeness" comes from.