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Villains of Space Station 13

Postby Shadowflame909 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:29 pm #461883

Why does Lexia Black keep getting antagonist?

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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby delaron » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:00 pm #461887

Anyone check the code?

Is this why they stepped down from admin?
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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby Anonmare » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:00 pm #461888

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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby Gigapuddi420 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:24 pm #461925

Shadowflame909 wrote:Why does Lexia Black keep getting antagonist?

I donated all my antag reputation to them. I don't really care for it anyway.
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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby confused rock » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:51 pm #461931

Ooooh metagrudge list
I like that detective lizard randomname grey fucker who treats everyone like he's the captain in a rev round.
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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby delaron » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:18 pm #461934

are we talking straight ooc villains that dont enhance the server or play?

Because I can think of great antag villains but I had fun playing against them.

Lexia Black fits that role.

Then you have the more intense: Marisa Kirisame
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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby MortoSasye » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:45 pm #461942

Lexia *honk*
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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby wesoda25 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:50 pm #461944

the grey and red naked lizards who ride each other every round. I hate them with a seething passion.

Beyond that the cat community is the ultimate antagonist
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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby Nabski » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:39 pm #461956

wesoda25 wrote:the grey and red naked lizards who ride each other every round. I hate them with a seething passion.

Beyond that the cat community is the ultimate antagonist


I think they've moved onto other places, unless they were on sybil and I'm just not there anymore.

confused rock wrote:Ooooh metagrudge list
I like that detective lizard randomname grey fucker who treats everyone like he's the captain in a rev round.

I knew who you were talking about instantly, then realized you were talking about yourself. Ya stabbed me eyes out two nights ago for disarming you ya bastard.

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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby obscolene » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:49 pm #461958

wesoda25 wrote:the grey and red naked lizards who ride each other every round. I hate them with a seething passion.

This. I don't know why this game attracts so many fucking ERPing furries. It's always a big laffo when someone defending catpeople brings up the null argument of, "Well Waht About Lizard People They're Also Furfags" well then it's settled Mother Fucker, let's get rid of them both.

wesoda25 wrote:the cat community is the ultimate antagonist

And this.

delaron wrote:Marisa Kirisame

Also this.
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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby confused rock » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:53 pm #461960

lol I'd do it again nabski the kind of person I hate the most is the one that fucks with people to no benefit or style, I'd rather arrest someone who covered the hall in monkey blood than the guy who stole the hand tele
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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby Shadowflame909 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:29 am #461971

By Villains I mean the players you love to hate because they're so good at being bad. You gamers.

Asher Clarke in a power gamer sense. Power-Gamed and robusted so hard he got banned. Ouch.

Lexia Black as an alternate scenario. Did so well, they became an admin.

There are three things that happen to Villains on this server. They either get banned, become admins, or stop playing altogether.

Sometimes in this exact order.

So, if you can think of anyone else that qualifies please share your thoughts. Now, Thank you. Have a good one.

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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby obscolene » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:45 am #461977

Shadowflame909 wrote:Asher Clarke in a power gamer sense. Power-Gamed and robusted so hard he got banned. Ouch.

i wouldn't classify 'being hated by literally everyone for being a massive faggot and a detriment to the server' as 'being banned for being to good at the game' but i guess we have different definitions of the word

Shadowflame909 wrote:There are three things that happen to Villains on this server. They either get banned, become admins, or stop playing altogether.

considering there is literally no other end result than 'not playing the game anymore because of choice' and 'not playing the game anymore because of inability' i guess you're technically correct
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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby Shadowflame909 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:11 am #461982

obscolene wrote:i wouldn't classify 'being hated by literally everyone for being a massive faggot and a detriment to the server' as 'being banned for being to good at the game' but i guess we have different definitions of the word


What's the difference. Ex: Cuban Pete, George Melons

Shadowflame909 wrote:There are three things that happen to Villains on this server. They either get banned, become admins, or stop playing altogether.

considering there is literally no other end result than 'not playing the game anymore because of choice' and 'not playing the game anymore because of inability' i guess you're technically correct[/quote]

Didn't you quit for a little bit as well.

Do you consider yourself a Major Villain of Space Station Thirteen?

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ThanatosRa wrote:My biggest problem is that I can't fix any of this.


Boris wrote:shadowflame either has a brain the size of a pea or one the size of the moon and he's playing 58D chess.


BeeSting12 wrote:please write an apology to this forums, this community, the host, and the internet as a whole for the data storage space you wasted with this complaint.


BebeYoshi wrote:Saltyflame909


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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby obscolene » Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:19 am #461984

Shadowflame909 wrote:
obscolene wrote:i wouldn't classify 'being hated by literally everyone for being a massive faggot and a detriment to the server' as 'being banned for being to good at the game' but i guess we have different definitions of the word


What's the difference. Ex: Cuban Pete, George Melons

people liked Cuban Pete and he was funny

Shadowflame909 wrote:Didn't you quit for a little bit as well.

Do you consider yourself a Major Villain of Space Station Thirteen?

i got banned for being too good at the game. i am not a villain, i am a hero. i will destroy all Giga Faggot`s and bring peace to this land. slayer of all furfags and beta orbiters.
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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby DrunkenMatey » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:01 pm #462092

confused rock wrote:Ooooh metagrudge list
I like that detective lizard randomname grey fucker who treats everyone like he's the captain in a rev round.


Im with you on this one. He also runs around shooting and arresting people for having more access. He definitely doesn't realize detective is supposed to solve /crimes/ not run around pre-emptively arresting people and pretending to be HoS.

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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby MMMiracles » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:35 pm #462093

DrunkenMatey wrote:
confused rock wrote:Ooooh metagrudge list
I like that detective lizard randomname grey fucker who treats everyone like he's the captain in a rev round.


Im with you on this one. He also runs around shooting and arresting people for having more access. He definitely doesn't realize detective is supposed to solve /crimes/ not run around pre-emptively arresting people and pretending to be HoS.


arrested for thought-crime, they would of done something illegal eventually
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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby wubli » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:48 pm #462095

Lexia Black would be a canon Syndicate if there was any confirmed lore. Also she could delimb me and I'd say "thanks".
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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby Lumbermancer » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:51 pm #462098

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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby Just L » Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:21 am #462885

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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby obscolene » Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:46 am #462887

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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby confused rock » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:32 pm #462966

lexia isn’t evil guys, she’s an elf and elves are lawful neutral at worst
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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby Shadowflame909 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:34 pm #462967

I'm putting Gene Ball on this list.

Get it. When you see them on the station running about it's not a good sign.

>Completely T-poses on Nabski's reputation by bringing up the old and tired trope of how he's an admin if he isn't an antag

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ThanatosRa wrote:My biggest problem is that I can't fix any of this.


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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby Suicidalpickles » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:38 pm #462968

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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby Nabski » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:30 pm #463025

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Shadowflame909 wrote:I'm putting Gene Ball on this list.

Get it. When you see them on the station running about it's not a good sign.

>Completely T-poses on Nabski's reputation by bringing up the old and tired trope of how he's an admin if he isn't an antag


I haven't bombed the station in so long. (Because new bombs are EFFORT)

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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby Shadowflame909 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:37 pm #463027

Nabski wrote::surprised:
Shadowflame909 wrote:I'm putting Gene Ball on this list.

Get it. When you see them on the station running about it's not a good sign.

>Completely T-poses on Nabski's reputation by bringing up the old and tired trope of how he's an admin if he isn't an antag


I haven't bombed the station in so long. (Because new bombs are EFFORT)


I see you playing Virology Nabski.

You don't need bombs to give everyone Advanced Brainrot!

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ThanatosRa wrote:My biggest problem is that I can't fix any of this.


Boris wrote:shadowflame either has a brain the size of a pea or one the size of the moon and he's playing 58D chess.


BeeSting12 wrote:please write an apology to this forums, this community, the host, and the internet as a whole for the data storage space you wasted with this complaint.


BebeYoshi wrote:Saltyflame909


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Postby Kraso » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:42 pm #463030

i just want to point out the game bases if you're gonna get antagonist or not depending on your ckey and the time of day

this is not a joke
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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby Shadowflame909 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:44 pm #463032

Kraso wrote:i just want to point out the game bases if you're gonna get antagonist or not depending on your ckey and the time of day

this is not a joke


So if I play on an alt called Imsx909

Will I get antag more?

S doesn't seem to be a very popular letter!

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ThanatosRa wrote:My biggest problem is that I can't fix any of this.


Boris wrote:shadowflame either has a brain the size of a pea or one the size of the moon and he's playing 58D chess.


BeeSting12 wrote:please write an apology to this forums, this community, the host, and the internet as a whole for the data storage space you wasted with this complaint.


BebeYoshi wrote:Saltyflame909


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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby somerandomguy » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:59 pm #463041

Kraso wrote:i just want to point out the game bases if you're gonna get antagonist or not depending on your ckey and the time of day

this is not a joke

no it doesnt
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   if(!CONFIG_GET(flag/use_antag_rep)) // || candidates.len <= 1)
      return pick(candidates)

   // Tickets start at 100
   var/DEFAULT_ANTAG_TICKETS = CONFIG_GET(number/default_antag_tickets)

   // You may use up to 100 extra tickets (double your odds)
   var/MAX_TICKETS_PER_ROLL = CONFIG_GET(number/max_tickets_per_roll)


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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby imsxz » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:23 am #463191

People who take leadership roles despite having no experience in the area. Looking at you, RD that fucks off to cargo roundstart every round and rolls for cult leader ASAP.

Assistant main, mostly.

Silicon mains, mostly.

Biggest villains in my eyes are people that go braindead or suicide whenever they don't get antag, bonus points if they do it as roles with good gear or limited availability like security or chaplain. Why even play the game if all you wanna do is antag?

In terms of villains that are fun to fight, I'd have to say Mike Murdock, always puts up a good fight when he's killing ppl.
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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby Shadowflame909 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:15 am #463211

imsxz wrote:People who take leadership roles despite having no experience in the area. Looking at you, RD that fucks off to cargo roundstart every round and rolls for cult leader ASAP.

Assistant main, mostly.

Silicon mains, mostly.

Biggest villains in my eyes are people that go braindead or suicide whenever they don't get antag, bonus points if they do it as roles with good gear or limited availability like security or chaplain. Why even play the game if all you wanna do is antag?

In terms of villains that are fun to fight, I'd have to say Mike Murdock, always puts up a good fight when he's killing ppl.


Ok but you have to say that whenever people hear that the Nuke Op is Lexia Black. Or the wizard is Lexia Black. Everyone already knows how fucked they are.

You would be a pretty canonical traitor.

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Boris wrote:shadowflame either has a brain the size of a pea or one the size of the moon and he's playing 58D chess.


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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby PKPenguin321 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:34 pm #463518

Suicidalpickles wrote:silicon mains

If somebody mains any science-related areas to the point of never playing any non-science role, they should be avoided at all costs. If they evolve into a sec main after that, God have mercy on you
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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby NoxVS » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:39 pm #463531

PKPenguin321 wrote:
Suicidalpickles wrote:silicon mains

If somebody mains any science-related areas to the point of never playing any non-science role, they should be avoided at all costs. If they evolve into a sec main after that, God have mercy on you

Especially if they simultaneously ignore all requests for items and also try to kill anyone who breaks in to use the protolathe

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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby Suicidalpickles » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:25 pm #463558

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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby obscolene » Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:44 pm #463577

PKPenguin321 wrote:
Suicidalpickles wrote:silicon mains

If somebody mains any science-related areas to the point of never playing any non-science role, they should be avoided at all costs. If they evolve into a sec main after that, God have mercy on you

>god have mercy on you
why? scimains who turn into secmains aren't actually good at the game. they merely powergame really hard because they want to win the game. powergame as hard as them and then you will have an advantage over them skill-wise, because thye are trash at the game.
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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby Nabski » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:09 pm #463591

obscolene wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Suicidalpickles wrote:silicon mains

If somebody mains any science-related areas to the point of never playing any non-science role, they should be avoided at all costs. If they evolve into a sec main after that, God have mercy on you

>god have mercy on you
why? scimains who turn into secmains aren't actually good at the game. they merely powergame really hard because they want to win the game. powergame as hard as them and then you will have an advantage over them skill-wise, because thye are trash at the game.

I mean, what is being "GOOD" at the game. Is it defined just as the ability to turn sprites sideway, or the ability to create memorable moments?

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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby Shadowflame909 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:17 pm #463594

Nabski wrote:
obscolene wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Suicidalpickles wrote:silicon mains

If somebody mains any science-related areas to the point of never playing any non-science role, they should be avoided at all costs. If they evolve into a sec main after that, God have mercy on you

>god have mercy on you
why? scimains who turn into secmains aren't actually good at the game. they merely powergame really hard because they want to win the game. powergame as hard as them and then you will have an advantage over them skill-wise, because thye are trash at the game.

I mean, what is being "GOOD" at the game. Is it defined just as the ability to turn sprites sideway, or the ability to create memorable moments?


Reality the former, High RP dreams the latter

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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby Nabski » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:18 pm #463595

Shadowflame909 wrote:
Nabski wrote:
obscolene wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Suicidalpickles wrote:silicon mains

If somebody mains any science-related areas to the point of never playing any non-science role, they should be avoided at all costs. If they evolve into a sec main after that, God have mercy on you

>god have mercy on you
why? scimains who turn into secmains aren't actually good at the game. they merely powergame really hard because they want to win the game. powergame as hard as them and then you will have an advantage over them skill-wise, because thye are trash at the game.

I mean, what is being "GOOD" at the game. Is it defined just as the ability to turn sprites sideway, or the ability to create memorable moments?


Reality the former, High RP dreams the latter

Let me keep dreaming ok?

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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby PKPenguin321 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:38 pm #463623

obscolene wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Suicidalpickles wrote:silicon mains

If somebody mains any science-related areas to the point of never playing any non-science role, they should be avoided at all costs. If they evolve into a sec main after that, God have mercy on you

>god have mercy on you
why? scimains who turn into secmains aren't actually good at the game. they merely powergame really hard because they want to win the game. powergame as hard as them and then you will have an advantage over them skill-wise, because thye are trash at the game.

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Re: Villains of Space Station 13

Postby Kraso » Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:43 pm #463674

PKPenguin321 wrote:
obscolene wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Suicidalpickles wrote:silicon mains

If somebody mains any science-related areas to the point of never playing any non-science role, they should be avoided at all costs. If they evolve into a sec main after that, God have mercy on you

>god have mercy on you
why? scimains who turn into secmains aren't actually good at the game. they merely powergame really hard because they want to win the game. powergame as hard as them and then you will have an advantage over them skill-wise, because thye are trash at the game.

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