Permissible to Make Gaseous Alcoholic Cabbage (used)?

[Toronto88]

I played a round last round where I made cabbages that when thrown blew up into gas filled with various kinds of alcohol and podperson mutation toxin (heals you in light, very cool! many people ask to become these.) At the end of the round while the shuttle was flying I threw some and everyone became quite drunk, including me. A chemist was running around shooting people with toxic darts.

At the end of the round MortoSasye admin PMs me and asks me why I was griefing and where I got the chems. I explain it is just liquor and I got it in botany. He asks if I have done this before. I tell him that I make funny plants with botany all the time, and have never been in trouble for it. He informs me that it is funny once but to never do it again. I ask him if this means I cannot use botany or I will be banned, he says don't shuttle grief. I ask him if the problem was that I did it on the shuttle, he says no don't do it anywhere. I asked him if this means I cannot make alcoholic plants and throw them at people. The response was never clear.

Is this an issue? Can we not force someone to drink a beer? It seems a bit ridiculous!

[adamkad1]

the problem with gaseous alcohol is that its combustible and for some reason it also instantly goes up in flames

[Skillywatt]

forcing people to do anything against their will when youre not an antag and without justification is generally against the rules but may not be punished if its mostly benign. Getting people super-drunk and/or forcing them into different races without asking probably deserves an ahelp. Not everyone wants to trade AI protection for light-healing.

[adamkad1]

Actually , turning people into other things is ic issue. setting people on fire randomly is ooc issue

[Skillywatt]

Actually , turning people into other things is ic issue. setting people on fire randomly is ooc issue

If he keeps doing it every round, he'll get rule zeroed, which is probably why he was told to not do it again.

[adamkad1]

Actually , turning people into other things is ic issue. setting people on fire randomly is ooc issue

If he keeps doing it every round, he'll get rule zeroed, which is probably why he was told to not do it again.

Well, because of botany RNG, you cant really do it every round

And rule 0 is fairly irrelevant

Im sure he got told off because of setting people on fire

[Skillywatt]

Actually , turning people into other things is ic issue. setting people on fire randomly is ooc issue

If he keeps doing it every round, he'll get rule zeroed, which is probably why he was told to not do it again.

Well, because of botany RNG, you cant really do it every round

And rule 0 is fairly irrelevant

Rule 0 has gotten plenty people banned. Explodes-when-arrested comes to mind for a recent precedent.

[adamkad1]

Actually , turning people into other things is ic issue. setting people on fire randomly is ooc issue

If he keeps doing it every round, he'll get rule zeroed, which is probably why he was told to not do it again.

Well, because of botany RNG, you cant really do it every round

And rule 0 is fairly irrelevant

Rule 0 has gotten plenty people banned. Explodes-when-arrested comes to mind for a recent precedent.

Who?

[Toronto88]

I usually do it with hypodermic needles + 50 varieties of alcohol.

Is this bannable? Will I never be able to throw beer wheats again?

[Toronto88]

Legitimately afraid for my life that I'll be slaughtered for my funny cabbage gag

[wesoda25]

You’re funny but unironically the worst captain player we have

[Toronto88]

You’re funny but unironically the worst captain player we have

Not true at all! I always protect my crew

[Gamarr]

It's cool you're using botany to do weird shit. Wonderful even. You're being lectured though because en masse getting mobs drunk while also making them highly flammable is the same as murder if one of them happens to be smoking.

[Floiven]

IIRC forcibly changing peoples race when nonantag is the thing that's a problem

[Gigapuddi420]

depends on the race. Most the time I'd consider it a IC issue that might get the botanist lynched, kind of like virologists who release a virus that is beneficial but turns people black. Turning crew into shadow people against their will on a well lit station is pretty shitty.

[Dax Dupont]

this is a policy thread it doesn't belong here

[Zarniwoop]

This is why you put mutation toxins into 100 potency bananas and warn the crew not to eat them.