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MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:25 am
by iamgoofball
MSO should either give up his vote for a second player vote, or start actually using it himself.

The administration makes up a incredible minority of the community, but gets double picks for headmin representation for the server despite this.

I do not have a problem with MSO having a vote, or voting for people. I have a problem with that vote being immediately just tossed to the admins so they get double picks.

Start using your vote, or start giving it to the portion of the community that is the majority, and the most impacted by changes made by the head administrators.

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:22 am
by Arianya
This isn't a policy matter.

MSO isn't required to even look here, let alone reply to this thread.

Take this to General Chat or something.
Policy Discussion Rules wrote:4.) This board is for discussing in-game administrative policy and rules, including in-game server configuration; coding policies and rules is discussed in #coderbus viewtopic.php?f=2&t=150

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:48 pm
by bandit
he is using his vote, he's just using it in a way you don't like

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:06 pm
by Nilons
goof isn't entirely wrong, I trust MSOs judgement a lot more than the current headmin trio, especially considering they'll probably just put someone they candidated and will listen to them in

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:13 pm
by BeeSting12
That's a contradiction though. If you trust his judgement then you'd also trust his judgement that the current headmin trio will make a good decision.

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:16 pm
by Nilons
BeeSting12 wrote:That's a contradiction though. If you trust his judgement then you'd also trust his judgement that the current headmin trio will make a good decision.
Him giving his vote is basically not picking, and its more of a default from when past headmins were better than an active choice

Since you need me to be over specific, I trust his judgement to pick a specific person to be headmin

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:18 pm
by Lazengann
I think he'd step in if the pick is too stupid

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:18 pm
by CitrusGender
"give the vote to the election I've been second place in multiple times"

Lol okay goof

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:12 am
by 4dplanner
third vote has to go to a Terrymin

representation

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:56 am
by iamgoofball
Arianya wrote:This isn't a policy matter.
Policy Discussion Rules wrote:4.) This board is for discussing in-game administrative policy and rules, including in-game server configuration; coding policies and rules is discussed in #coderbus viewtopic.php?f=2&t=150
>mfw admins refuse to let themselves be criticized about anything that isn't in game

fucking corrupt pig lmao

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:10 am
by Not-Dorsidarf
I understand your brain is leaking out of your ears as the dementia sets in but you seem to have found your way to the wrong place and selected a quote unrelated to your response in any way.

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:33 am
by iamgoofball
Not-Dorsidarf wrote:I understand your brain is leaking out of your ears as the dementia sets in but you seem to have found your way to the wrong place and selected a quote unrelated to your response in any way.
are you physically incapable of reading comprehension, try reading that post and the quote again

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:39 am
by D&B
Include me in the fucking screencap

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:42 am
by wesoda25
Autism aside its a good idea, an admin can hardly criticize goof when they have just as much to lose as he does gain if this was made into a thing.

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:42 am
by Rustledjimm
You all seem to be under the impression that MSO does not see the consideration process, that he just tells the headmins to pick then runs off ignorant of who they might choose. He is well informed on the matter and is also consulted at length in the process.

If MSO thought the headmins were going to make a bad choice for the server he would step in.

If you trust his judgement then you also know he would do so.

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:04 am
by Bawhoppennn
Wouldn't it make more sense for the admins to give up their vote?
Aren't admins just supposed to be there to serve the players' interests (through enforcing rules which make the game more enjoyable)?
If the players want something that the admins would refuse because of it being an "administrative nightmare" or whatever, couldn't the admins who don't want to put in the work just stop being an admin? They're not being forced to go through the extra work of adminning, they're just doing it out of their love of the game and the desire to help make a better playing environment for everyone (and in return for their service, they get community recognition and the power to do an event or two).

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:20 pm
by Cobby
Can't wait to see shezza as headmin

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:25 pm
by confused rock
bawsed and hoppenpilled

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:12 pm
by wesoda25
Implying anyone would vote, or can vote for shezza since they were permabanned for erp.

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:18 am
by bman
Rustledjimm wrote:You all seem to be under the impression that MSO does not see the consideration process, that he just tells the headmins to pick then runs off ignorant of who they might choose. He is well informed on the matter and is also consulted at length in the process.

If MSO thought the headmins were going to make a bad choice for the server he would step in.

If you trust his judgement then you also know he would do so.
yeah but im pretty sure you were his host pick before so i dont trust his judgement all that much :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :d20: :d20: :d20: :face: :face: :tile: :monkey: :revolver: :igloves: :igloves: :heart: :heart: :cardborg: :honkman: :honkman: :honkman: :newcop: :newcop: :salt: :salt: :salt:

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:53 pm
by Qbopper
Bawhoppennn wrote:Wouldn't it make more sense for the admins to give up their vote?
Aren't admins just supposed to be there to serve the players' interests (through enforcing rules which make the game more enjoyable)?
If the players want something that the admins would refuse because of it being an "administrative nightmare" or whatever, couldn't the admins who don't want to put in the work just stop being an admin? They're not being forced to go through the extra work of adminning, they're just doing it out of their love of the game and the desire to help make a better playing environment for everyone (and in return for their service, they get community recognition and the power to do an event or two).
or we could just stick with the current system where all parties involved get a chance to vote for a candidate they like

like, really, what's the issue here

-host vote goes to headmins who get some say in someone they would want to succeed them, carry on their policy, etc.
-admin vote goes to admins who can pick who they think has the most realistic policy and would get along best, or whatever reason you wanna pick
-players get to vote in someone who would enact policy they like and represent their interests (on paper, in practice it's name recognition, let's be honest)

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:43 pm
by 4dplanner
third vote goes to coders

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:22 am
by Arianya
Only if you want ASCII penis to win.

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:16 pm
by Hornygranny
Arianya wrote:Only if you want ASCII penis to win.
ASCII penis was a Jannetty who never drew a dime after our feud, and we all remember who went over in that election brother. - HH

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:26 pm
by iamgoofball
Hornygranny wrote:
Arianya wrote:Only if you want ASCII penis to win.
ASCII penis was a Jannetty who never drew a dime after our feud, and we all remember who went over in that election brother. - HH
you're getting your position back after I or ASCII penis wins

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:35 pm
by Vile Beggar
Hornygranny wrote:
Arianya wrote:Only if you want ASCII penis to win.
ASCII penis was a Jannetty who never drew a dime after our feud, and we all remember who went over in that election brother. - HH
rare HG post collected

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:12 am
by MisterPerson
iamgoofball wrote:
Hornygranny wrote:
Arianya wrote:Only if you want ASCII penis to win.
ASCII penis was a Jannetty who never drew a dime after our feud, and we all remember who went over in that election brother. - HH
you're getting your position back after I or ASCII penis wins
Corporate wants you to spot the differences between these two pictures.

Re: MSO: Give up your host vote for a second player vote.

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:22 am
by iamgoofball
MisterPerson wrote:
iamgoofball wrote:
Hornygranny wrote:
Arianya wrote:Only if you want ASCII penis to win.
ASCII penis was a Jannetty who never drew a dime after our feud, and we all remember who went over in that election brother. - HH
you're getting your position back after I or ASCII penis wins
Corporate wants you to spot the differences between these two pictures.
if I was ascii penis all along does this mean oranges is a pretender to my throne