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Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:46 am
by Rustledjimm

Bottom post of the previous page:

Let's start an australian server and call it ozzy

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:48 am
by Karp
Rustledjimm wrote:Let's start an australian server and call it ozzy
you'd have to enforce banned players only as policy to play on it

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:34 pm
by somerandomguy
Tlaltecuhtli wrote:i give you a death line admin team, after 1/4/19 i ll organize anti grief squads and solve problems icly
But January 4th already happened :^)
Karp wrote:CENSORED PENDING HEADMIN APPROVAL
I can't tell if this is a joke or not

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:20 pm
by leibniz
I decree that all admins shall be cut in half, increasing their surface area and thus providing more coverage.
As I believe in fairness, each admin may choose between being cut horizontally or vertically.

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:54 pm
by bandit
leibniz wrote:I decree that all admins shall be cut in half, increasing their surface area and thus providing more coverage.
As I believe in fairness, each admin may choose between being cut horizontally or vertically.
disemboweling them will increase the surface area even more, the long intestine alone will span an entire station

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:05 pm
by subject217
Sign me up for the vertical cut.

Also everything Karp posted.

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:00 pm
by Qbopper
Karp wrote:
Rustledjimm wrote:Let's start an australian server and call it ozzy
you'd have to enforce banned players only as policy to play on it
karpposting is a blessing

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:01 pm
by Qbopper
bandit wrote:
leibniz wrote:I decree that all admins shall be cut in half, increasing their surface area and thus providing more coverage.
As I believe in fairness, each admin may choose between being cut horizontally or vertically.
disemboweling them will increase the surface area even more, the long intestine alone will span an entire station
if you carefully and surgically extract the circulatory and nervous systems you'll get much more coverage

hell if we get someone who can manipulate things on a molecular level you could thanos snap the admin team and spread them out over a very large area

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:02 pm
by Karp
somerandomguy wrote: I can't tell if this is a joke or not
there was a joke there but i thought it was rude so i censored it but admins can still read it

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:24 pm
by iamgoofball
deadmin admins who don't meet activity quotas

random inspections too

also lol @ arianya being a bitch and threatening to ban players dealing with griefers by hand when their bitch boy useless administration doesn't do it's fucking job

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:26 pm
by Rustledjimm
What would you be randomly inspecting. Admins know everything is logged and if anyone does any abuse on the server and another admin sees you can be sure it would be brought up.

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:46 pm
by Atlanta-Ned
Can’t wait to leave my evening volunteer log diving gig for my night time admin log diving gig to make sure the other admins are log diving enough

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:53 pm
by FloranOtten
Atlanta-Ned wrote:Can’t wait to leave my evening volunteer log diving gig for my night time admin log diving gig to make sure the other admins are log diving enough
Of course, we'd have another admin work the Early Morning admin log diving gig to make sure the admin log divers are admin log diving the admins enough

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:00 pm
by oranges
where are the australian admins where are they

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:01 pm
by Kel
oranges wrote:where are the australian admins where are they
inside of this quote

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:29 pm
by iamgoofball
Rustledjimm wrote:What would you be randomly inspecting. Admins know everything is logged and if anyone does any abuse on the server and another admin sees you can be sure it would be brought up.
read tbe post again you idiot, use some brain cells this time

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:18 am
by terranaut
Rustledjimm wrote:Admins know everything is logged and if anyone does any abuse on the server and another admin sees you can be sure it would be brought up.
There have been cases in the past of admins being too retarded ot understand simple game mechanics and straight up abusing other admins of abuse.

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:56 am
by Karp
terranaut wrote:
Rustledjimm wrote:Admins know everything is logged and if anyone does any abuse on the server and another admin sees you can be sure it would be brought up.
There have been cases in the past of admins being too retarded ot understand simple game mechanics and straight up abusing other admins of abuse.
this is going to be rude so forgive me. Do that one again but in english, alright?

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:07 am
by Qbmax32
iamgoofball wrote:deadmin admins who don't meet activity quotas

random inspections too

also lol @ arianya being a bitch and threatening to ban players dealing with griefers by hand when their bitch boy useless administration doesn't do it's fucking job
[img]https://i.ibb.co/br6M1NM/feelsbad.jpg[/img]

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:20 am
by iamgoofball
Qbmax32 wrote:
iamgoofball wrote:deadmin admins who don't meet activity quotas

random inspections too

also lol @ arianya being a bitch and threatening to ban players dealing with griefers by hand when their bitch boy useless administration doesn't do it's fucking job
[img]https://i.ibb.co/br6M1NM/feelsbad.jpg[/img]
epic "getting deadminned for not doing your admin job is UNPERSONING" meme bro

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:26 am
by IkeTG
deplayer goofballs who don't meet activity quotas

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:27 am
by subject217
iamgoofball wrote:deadmin admins who don't meet activity quotas

random inspections too

also lol @ arianya being a bitch and threatening to ban players dealing with griefers by hand when their bitch boy useless administration doesn't do it's fucking job
mandatory admin johnson inspections every hour on the hour

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:29 am
by bandit
Rustledjimm wrote:What would you be randomly inspecting.
johnsons

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:36 am
by Nervere
iamgoofball wrote:deadmin admins who don't meet activity quotas

random inspections too

also lol @ arianya being a bitch and threatening to ban players dealing with griefers by hand when their bitch boy useless administration doesn't do it's fucking job
Holy fuck, I choked laughing at this. You’re such a fucking idiot, dude.

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:39 am
by Plapatin
why was i included in that image though

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:41 am
by cedarbridge
Kel wrote:
oranges wrote:where are the australian admins where are they
inside of this quote
That's a kiwi though.

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:44 am
by lmwevil
Nervere wrote:
iamgoofball wrote:deadmin admins who don't meet activity quotas

random inspections too

also lol @ arianya being a bitch and threatening to ban players dealing with griefers by hand when their bitch boy useless administration doesn't do it's fucking job
Holy fuck, I choked laughing at this. You’re such a fucking idiot, dude.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
cedarbridge wrote:
Kel wrote:
oranges wrote:where are the australian admins where are they
inside of this quote
That's a kiwi though.
no it's oranges you moron, kiwis have a different colour

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:12 am
by Qbmax32
Plapatin wrote:why was i included in that image though
i already had it downloaded and i was too lazy to go to the forums and get another avatar

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:13 am
by TehSteveo
The players who did the griefing in the round that spawned this thread were banned. Another admin actually investigated it on the 29th as soon the round ID was given as when I went to look up the players involved, they already got banned, which was helpful considering I was incapacitated the past two days due to throwing my back out.

In situations like these, obviously AdminHelp when an issue happens, if nobody is available to hop on the server during lowpopulation times then escalate that to Discord, if you don't get a response from Supportbus you can DM the headmins. Also more than welcomed to DM me on Discord if a more grevious issue occurs as I'll log dive. Another good alternative is using forum PMs to the admin team. It gets the issue resolved with less drama and peanut posting.

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:28 am
by Karp
Image

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:12 am
by terranaut
Karp wrote:
terranaut wrote:
Rustledjimm wrote:Admins know everything is logged and if anyone does any abuse on the server and another admin sees you can be sure it would be brought up.
There have been cases in the past of admins being too retarded ot understand simple game mechanics and straight up abusing other admins of abuse.
this is going to be rude so forgive me. Do that one again but in english, alright?
There have been cases in the past of admins being too retarded to understand simple game mechanics and straight up accusing other admins of abuse.

Sorry it was late at night and I forgot not everyone is able to fill in some gaps with context

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:09 am
by Screemonster
the best thing about this thread is that the incident mythicghost bitched about not being handled like a handful of posts from the start then argued for a solid page about as evidence of WEH NOTHING EVER GETS DONE PEOPLE GRIFFED AND DIDN'T GET BANNED has a ban appeal up for it so the person he's bitching about not getting banned very much did get banned

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:53 am
by oranges
oranges wrote:where are the australian admins where are they

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:13 pm
by Nabski
Karp wrote:
Rustledjimm wrote:Let's start an australian server and call it ozzy
you'd have to enforce banned players only as policy to play on it
Only if the only admins are me and the other people deadmined/didn’t make it through trial are admins there. Welcome to hell.

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:37 pm
by TheMythicGhost
Screemonster wrote:the best thing about this thread is that the incident mythicghost bitched about not being handled like a handful of posts from the start then argued for a solid page about as evidence of WEH NOTHING EVER GETS DONE PEOPLE GRIFFED AND DIDN'T GET BANNED has a ban appeal up for it so the person he's bitching about not getting banned very much did get banned
Got to say, love the tone. The players in question only got investigated and subsequently banned because I managed to bring attention to the issue here and an admin investigated it about a day or so after. Karp addressed the concerns I had about dead zone hour grief by confirming the alternative system to my spew of vitriol has already been in planning, and said concerns were further addressed by TheSteveo who informed me that should a request for supportadmin fail in a legitimate case of grief, I can DM headmins for assistance, something I wasn't aware was allowed so I avoided doing in said incident. The case in question wasn't magically caught, as seems to be the implication here.

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:55 pm
by Gigapuddi420
Got to say, love the tone.
this thread in a nutshell.

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:58 pm
by Screemonster
if you don't like the tone I can go a lot worse you simpering fucking quim, go write another ban request disguised as an admincomplaint about it

edit: not you giga you're cool

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:14 pm
by oranges
LaKiller8 wrote:
oranges wrote:
oranges wrote:where are the australian admins where are they
On TGMC.
GIVE THEM BACK GIVE THEM BACK


WHERE ARE THEY

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:12 pm
by lmwevil
help LaKiller keeps calling me a stupid squid and trying to poach me

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:38 pm
by BONERMASTER
why not make a publicly viewable ban-database, so you can look up and see who got banned and for what reason? From the admin perspective, sure, you might be banning shitters left and right. But from the player's perspective, you keep running into shitters, and naturally wonder, if anything is ever done against them. The database will help to clear that up.

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:52 pm
by oranges
BONERMASTER wrote:why not make a publicly viewable ban-database, so you can look up and see who got banned and for what reason? From the admin perspective, sure, you might be banning shitters left and right. But from the player's perspective, you keep running into shitters, and naturally wonder, if anything is ever done against them. The database will help to clear that up.
lotta arguments about this

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:02 am
by Grazyn
Goof kinda has a point, but inactive* admins are only a problem if "we already have too many admins" is used as an argument against hiring more admins, which doesn't seem to be the case.

*admins who are obviously active on discord and elsewhere but are not responding to ahelp pings

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:19 am
by leibniz
Grazyn wrote:Goof kinda has a point, but inactive* admins are only a problem if "we already have too many admins" is used as an argument against hiring more admins, which doesn't seem to be the case.

*admins who are obviously active on discord and elsewhere but are not responding to ahelp pings
This sounds like you are meant to dedicate all your online time to SS13.
You cant really force people to respond to ahelps when they dont want to, even if you did it'd just increase burnout.
I don't think we need to be too hard on unpaid volunteers.

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:54 am
by lmwevil
I WILL DEDICATE ALL OF MY LIFE TOWARDS SPESSMENS, I WILL LEARN EVERYTHING AND ROBUST LEXIA BLACK WHILE ALSO ANSWERING TICKETS AT THE SAME TIME

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:03 am
by Grazyn
It's not like being an "unpaid volunteer" is mandatory. I'm just saying that in a HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO where new hirings are blocked because of the already high number of admins, ignoring ahelps from overfilled, unsupervised servers while fucking around on discord should be grounds for demotions so that your spot can be taken by more eager "volunteers".

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:30 am
by Gigapuddi420
no one is blocking new hires based on the number of admins we have. If anything efforts to find new admins since the ssethtide have picked up. Recruitment is constant because it's well known admins burnout sometimes or their lives require they have less free time. The idea that admins who are online on discord have to answer ahelps is pretty annoying; these people like to chill out or game with friends just as much as our players and not everyone who is currently online on discord is available or willing to jump onto a server and deal with complex ahelps. Even people with the supportmin tag generally have it so when they are available they can better see where help is needed.

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:36 am
by IkeTG
Grazyn wrote:It's not like being an "unpaid volunteer" is mandatory. I'm just saying that in a HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO where new hirings are blocked because of the already high number of admins, ignoring ahelps from overfilled, unsupervised servers while fucking around on discord should be grounds for demotions so that your spot can be taken by more eager "volunteers".
A hypothetical scenario that will not happen, sounds like a complete waste of time to debate.

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:39 pm
by 4dplanner
Gitban any coder who doesn't submit one bugfix per day

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:41 pm
by Qbmax32
1000+ issues, chop chop code monkeys

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:55 pm
by Sanator
BONERMASTER wrote:why not make a publicly viewable ban-database, so you can look up and see who got banned and for what reason? From the admin perspective, sure, you might be banning shitters left and right. But from the player's perspective, you keep running into shitters, and naturally wonder, if anything is ever done against them. The database will help to clear that up.
I like this idea.

Also, I would like to know why there isn't a formalized admin application/form people could fill out. As I understand it, currently, it's the admins who choose players they like and ask them to be on the admin team or something like that. Maybe I'm too much of a brainlet to understand.

Re: 80+ admins yet there arent enough for 2/3 of the day

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:31 pm
by Atlanta-Ned
BONERMASTER wrote:why not make a publicly viewable ban-database, so you can look up and see who got banned and for what reason? From the admin perspective, sure, you might be banning shitters left and right. But from the player's perspective, you keep running into shitters, and naturally wonder, if anything is ever done against them. The database will help to clear that up.
personally i really dont want to be harassed for how many people i got killed by skipping out on my shift at at the hospital to play fortnite