Manuel - Round length and player count

[YuiY1997]

Manuel's pretty great for RP purposes but I think it was definitely better the first week or so it was open. I think this was a combination of the often shorter rounds and the larger player population at the time. It's kinda silly to limit the server to 50 people considering it didnt really feel like it had a massive change on the server culture. Super duper lowpop and 2-3 hour rounds feels absolutely fucking silly.

[Qbopper]

do people really consider 50 players "super duper lowpop" now

what the fuck???

[YuiY1997]

do people really consider 50 players "super duper lowpop" now

what the fuck???

Feels slow as fuck. Also the lowpop is 70, so in comparison 50 is super duper lowpop.

[NoxVS]

Just adding 10 back to the pop limit would be good I think. One problem is because of the long rounds you start running out of people to play the game. They die, drop out because its going to be an hour until they get back, and by the time the round starts up again the pop isnt high enough to get all the gamemodes.

[YuiY1997]

Just adding 10 back to the pop limit would be good I think. One problem is because of the long rounds you start running out of people to play the game. They die, drop out because its going to be an hour until they get back, and by the time the round starts up again the pop isnt high enough to get all the gamemodes.

yeah this is a serious issue. There either needs to be a higher player count or more midround antagonists to keep dead players on the server

[Qbopper]

I am genuinely baffled at the notion that 50-70/etc is lowpop

[IkeTG]

it might be oldfag stuff since i barely play but <20 is lowpop to me

[Sheodir]

50 player was put in place because the MRP standards were unclear and this incentivized people to play nicer. I feel it can reasonably go up now.

[keluandrie]

ITT: newfags who never played when 30 players was considered pretty medpop for most of ss13

edit: this did not age well with the two posts at the exact same time as me

[Arathian]

Feels slow as fuck. Also the lowpop is 70, so in comparison 50 is super duper lowpop.

I am a ssethtider and 70 is not lowpop by any definition of lowpop. By any definition of it. 70 is highpop. 50 is when highpop starts, really, with 30-50 being midpop.

This isn't an old vs new thing. This is just a dent in skull thing.

[YuiY1997]

Feels slow as fuck. Also the lowpop is 70, so in comparison 50 is super duper lowpop.

I am a ssethtider and 70 is not lowpop by any definition of lowpop. By any definition of it. 70 is highpop. 50 is when highpop starts, really, with 30-50 being midpop.

This isn't an old vs new thing. This is just a dent in skull thing.

idk chief just using their own word

[Lazengann]

Your screenshot says nine players dude

[YuiY1997]

Your screenshot says nine players dude

I'm saying the player cap is 70. I thought that's what made it lowpop. Sorry I didnt know the terminology beforehand I guess. It says the same thing when there's 60 players on so I figured it was the playercount and not the people currently on.

[Plapatin]

the "lowpop" server tag doesn't really mean anything, the soft popcap on sybil is 50 (when the game will ask you to play on other servers but not boot you out)

[cybersaber101]

I do agree that manuel could use a slightly higher player count for the long rounds feeling emptier and emptier although that probably is just the lack of job content past 2 hours.

[Sheodir]

I do agree that manuel could use a slightly higher player count for the long rounds feeling emptier and emptier although that probably is just the lack of job content past 2 hours.

More pop would seriously help make thos erounsd edge down a bit.

[XivilaiAnaxes]

I genuinely consider any round with more than 1 guy in security roundstart to be highpop

[Plapatin]

wait why is this in the cuckshed anyways

[oranges]

NTR hut is where things get done, move this back.

[cacogen]

I wish the population cap would be raised as well. It's true the culture hasn't changed much as a result of lowering it. Just ban people whose playstyle doesn't fit. Also, long rounds are good. The problem is the decade-long standing problem of having nothing to do unless you're actively working on a job. Spawn some fucking antags. Codewise. Make a tensioner that works. Or use dynamic if it solves the problem. And I don't want to get into the stupid argument with morons about whether antags are necessary to create conflict because all that matters is there's fuck all without them (don't cite notable exceptions as though they're the rule) and it's an easy method to introduce it.

[Sheodir]

I wish the population cap would be raised as well. It's true the culture hasn't changed much as a result of lowering it. Just ban people whose playstyle doesn't fit. Also, long rounds are good. The problem is the decade-long standing problem of having nothing to do unless you're actively working on a job. Spawn some fucking antags. Codewise. Make a tensioner that works. Or use dynamic if it solves the problem. And I don't want to get into the stupid argument with morons about whether antags are necessary to create conflict because all that matters is there's fuck all without them (don't cite notable exceptions as though they're the rule) and it's an easy method to introduce it.

Dynamic MRP with highpop is the dream brother