SS13 Remake Source

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:48 pm #60772

Bottom post of the previous page:

Well, one early decision that you will have to make is whether you'll keep human sprites static like they're now, or animate them. Currently, animating human sprites in /tg/station13 would be too much of an effort because you'd also have to animate every piece of clothing that already exists. But if you agree on animated sprites from the start in SS14, you will raise your workload but not run into this problem further down the line.

You'll have to settle for a general style for the game too. I made these little sprites a while ago:

Spoiler:

But although the saturated colour palette and dark (not black) outlines might work, I don't really think these proportions are suitable for SS13/14.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:02 pm #60778

Theres a 3D remake already in the works called Centrition, its going about as well as you'd expect a SS13 remake to be

Antimattercarp · Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:37 pm

Wasn't they working on taking the sprites from existing 3D model rigs so they only have to make a texture instead of animate every little bit?

danno · Post by **danno** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:43 pm #60804

Centration doesn't even qualify as a remake tbh, it doesn't really qualify as anything at all.

A 3d remake would work if it was on the same top-down 2d plane the game is on now. A full 3d remake wouldn't even be the same game at all.

Prophoem · Post by **Prophoem** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:51 pm #60920

Allready asked about graphics on there forum. Well see how it goes from here.

I sorta wish that Supernorn would have left the graphics in because now the allready small teams are all going to have to make there own art and it will take even longer to get a decent game out for people to play.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:21 pm #60933

We should just use our current assets from /tg/ and baystation, and if people offer to remake them, let them

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:37 pm #60975

Phalanx300 wrote:
Bombadil wrote:http://www.digg.com/r/Games/comments/ ... ce/cnustk6

Supernorn says why he didn't include the art assets he made in the source
They also said their art guy wanted to use them for other projects. Its a shame though.

HE IS THE ART GUY

DanielRatherman · Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:53 am

In my opinion, the art of a remake should be 64x64 high-res remakes in the classical style of the current assets. retooled for more consistency and better quality/unified color schemes, perspectives, etc.

Something like this?

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:59 am #61038

that doesn't look half bad actually, where did you get that?

DanielRatherman · Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:22 am

my ass, I do some spritan

Ikarrus · Post by **Ikarrus** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:36 am #61050

I think #spaceart is always looking for more help if you want to pitch in.

I think they already decided to go for 64x64

DanielRatherman · Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:39 am

Where does one find that? I have the template for that guy and wouldn't mind putting out the base and a few simple outfits for a start.

Ikarrus · Post by **Ikarrus** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:41 am #61054

irc://irc.rizon.net/spaceart

Prophoem · Post by **Prophoem** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:58 pm #61236

For anyone still courious we are using 3D that will look 2D there is a explanation for it on #Spacebus that Ikarrus pointed out.

Remie Richards · Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:04 pm

Prophoem wrote:For anyone still courious we are using 3D that will look 2D there is a explanation for it on #Spacebus that Ikarrus pointed out.

3D models converted to 2D sprites right, or has this changed?

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:06 pm #61238

Whatever the case is I look forward to seeing what becomes of this, I hope there is a good communications channel for updates and whatnot.

Prophoem · Post by **Prophoem** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:33 pm #61247

Remie Richards wrote:
Prophoem wrote:For anyone still courious we are using 3D that will look 2D there is a explanation for it on #Spacebus that Ikarrus pointed out.
3D models converted to 2D sprites right, or has this changed?

Yep that is the correct term. Sorry for any confusion i may have caused.

Remie Richards · Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:48 pm

Steelpoint wrote:Whatever the case is I look forward to seeing what becomes of this, I hope there is a good communications channel for updates and whatnot.

Specific to SS14 we have: 2 IRC Channels, Forums, Phabricator and a Github.

All of these (perhaps besides Github) promote communication. The SS14 IRC #spacebus has had 80 people in it on one day, no idea about #spaceart

Phalanx300 · Post by **Phalanx300** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:35 pm #61312

callanrockslol · Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:03 am

Its going to end up being a bastardized SS13 lite with a couple of cool things but never have mules.

NEVER.

What happened to the remake that was actually going places?

Ikarrus · Post by **Ikarrus** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:10 am #61454

callanrockslol wrote:What happened to the remake that was actually going places?

Folded after they failed to meet their crowdfunding goals, IIRC.

This is the next best thing we have, especially now that it's open source.

callanrockslol · Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:49 am

> $40,000

well that explains that

Ikarrus wrote:This is the next best thing we have, especially now that it's open source.

What about the one we already have.

Prophoem · Post by **Prophoem** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:41 pm #61634

callanrockslol wrote:Its going to end up being a bastardized SS13 lite with a couple of cool things but never have mules.

NEVER.

What happened to the remake that was actually going places?

Well it will take a while for the remake to get the level of content we have today, but it also took about a decade for classic SS13 to get to the level of content we have today. Even then it will be better with all the freedom making our own engine gives us allowing us to do all sorts of new stuff and do them better then BYOND could ever dream of doing it. And on top of that we will be able to do all this much faster then we would with BYOND as we aren't working around the limitations of the system that is BYOND.

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:39 pm #61647

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Jalleo · Post by **Jalleo** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:53 am #62123

callanrockslol wrote:> $40,000

well that explains that

Ikarrus wrote:This is the next best thing we have, especially now that it's open source.
What about the one we already have.

There is a lot of issues code end which would not exist if we can control the engine the game runs on. (I havent checked in a few days but I was helping to find 3D modelers before i took a bit of a short break. I believe Nienhaus is the art manager or was last I was on a lot of stuff is moving fast.

Prophoem · Post by **Prophoem** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:30 am #62144

Yeah it is going suprisingly fast actually we allready have new 3D models for placeholders and the graphics engine is being changed for a multi platform release. Also we have new sprites for all the tools and they look awesome. My favorite though is definatly the new multitool.

Jalleo · Post by **Jalleo** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:50 pm #62272

Prophoem wrote:Yeah it is going suprisingly fast actually we allready have new 3D models for placeholders and the graphics engine is being changed for a multi platform release. Also we have new sprites for all the tools and they look awesome. My favorite though is definatly the new multitool.

when everyone wants to work together they do

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:59 pm #62274

Prophoem wrote:a multi platform release

If you can pull off a decent mobile client it would transform SS13.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:01 pm #62276

considering the amount of cooperation that is happening, i'm beginning to suspect we're actually coding a rite to summon cthulu

Ricotez wrote:
Prophoem wrote:a multi platform release
If you can pull off a decent mobile client it would transform SS13.

with even more shitlers :V

(i don't think a good mobile client is ever going to happen TBH, you can't tap precisely enough, and you sure as hell cant type fast enough)

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:05 pm #62278

yeah mobile is not a good platform for a heavily text based game like ss13

but you can always try it, it's good UI design experience

Jalleo · Post by **Jalleo** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:37 pm #62291

How about tablet instead I hear the only reason to have one at the moment is to put your cup on or using it as a paperweight.

(Or playing FTL)

The UI design for it would almost certainly fail for a mobile compared to a tablet.

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:38 pm #62292

One thing at a time.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:52 pm #62308

So, where precisely can one find these sexy new sprites I heard about?

DanielRatherman · Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:07 pm

Well here's the tools and toolbox I submitted the other day.

Prophoem · Post by **Prophoem** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:21 pm #62359

Oh woah i didn't know you finished the toolbox. Dang bro them sprites so sexy.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:33 pm #62369

Yes, I find it easy to touch myself to this.

Damn pretty.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:37 pm #62373

holy shit that looks amazing

TrustyGun · Post by **TrustyGun** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:39 pm #62376

The future is now

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:29 pm #62407

DanielRatherman · Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:11 am

Second draft of some medical objects I took a shot at.

Loonikus · Post by **Loonikus** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:29 pm #67320

I think we are all forgetting the most important questions:

1. When is Metastation going to be remapped for this?

2. Where is Ians sprite?

3. Will there be ERP verbs? (ERP animations?)

4. Is the clown going to be in 4k resolution? If no, why not?

5. Fat sprites when?

Jalleo · Post by **Jalleo** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:19 pm #67331

Loonikus wrote:I think we are all forgetting the most important questions:

1. When is Metastation going to be remapped for this? TBC

2. Where is Ians sprite? In the post beta pipeline

3. Will there be ERP verbs? (ERP animations?) probably not

4. Is the clown going to be in 4k resolution? If no, why not? Impossibru

5. Fat sprites when? We dont have sprites for humans its models then flattened to 2D

Remie Richards · Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:24 pm

Loonikus wrote:I think we are all forgetting the most important questions:

1. When is Metastation going to be remapped for this?

2. Where is Ians sprite?

3. Will there be ERP verbs? (ERP animations?)

4. Is the clown going to be in 4k resolution? If no, why not?

5. Fat sprites when?

1. Never, Worst map

2. No dog yet

3. No

4. technically with 3D models --> 2D sprites any resolution could be supported

5. Not unless we have a good way of scaling up normal animations/sprites.

Post by **MMMiracles** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:29 pm #67338

Remie Richards wrote: 1. Never, Worst map

such heresy, spouting such haram things about the glorious map, filthy infidel.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:49 pm #67380

Once you have found a way of scaling up, does that mean we'll get lizards?

Remie Richards · Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:57 pm

DemonFiren wrote:Once you have found a way of scaling up, does that mean we'll get lizards?

that's not even funny. get out.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:17 pm #67391

Pls borgs yes but no all seeing a-eye

Remie Richards · Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:23 pm

yes borgs yes AI is what I want.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:29 pm #67395

Remie Richards wrote:
DemonFiren wrote:Once you have found a way of scaling up, does that mean we'll get lizards?
that's not even funny. get out.

Being unfunny is half my job.

Cuboos · Post by **Cuboos** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:02 pm #67408

HURRY UP WITH THE SOUND ENGINE

DanielRatherman · Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:47 am

Tried to make an Autolathe, or Circuit Printer or somethin.