misconceptions people have

[Fikou]

post some misconceptions people have about features in the game
glass shards dont change damage randomly when thrown
punching someone in the mouth or groin doesnt make the knockdown change higher
attacking people in the chest can be much better than head

[donutstation]

admins make the game better

security and heads players are more competent / of greater value than others

security and heads players are more competent / of greater value than others and thus giving them more power will make the game better

[XDTM]

Hypnotic flashbang doesn't require the same setup as the hypnotic flash, it automatically does the hallucination part on its own (and if it doesn't it's a bug)

[Tlaltecuhtli]

people screaming for help are the victims

[Shadowflame909]

Just because of the fact that someones a head of staff, doesn't mean you should trust them

Looking at Security always falling for traitor HoP.

[trollbreeder]

Red crowbars actually do more damage than grey crowbars. They're not reskins.

Grey crowbar has 5 damage

Red crowbar has 8 (3 more than grey)

[confused rock]

the giant trail of blood when you are dragging people does in fact signify that, yes, you are dragging out their blood. no, it isn't a visual effect. no, they wouldn't have pale skin from having a gash for 20 seconds, if it were not for the fact that you dragged out 20% of their blood.

[XDTM]

Nanites are pretty cheap to research now, and can easily turn in a profit if they're loaded with the research-boosting programs. Don't lynch scientists who research nanites first.

[wesoda25]

Nanites are pretty cheap to research now, and can easily turn in a profit if they're loaded with the research-boosting programs. Don't lynch scientists who research nanites first.

No fuck you

[SaveVatznick]

Science isn't actually a productive or good department 90% of the time.

[Armhulen]

Flightsuits were dope

[OhChildflayer]

While SS13 IS a game, it's an RP game. You're supposed to play a role, and enjoy yourself.

[Super Aggro Crag]

fun is a viable excuse

[Anonmare]

punching someone in the mouth or groin doesnt make the knockdown change higher
attacking people in the chest can be much better than head

Actually, hitting people in the head and chest does make the knockdown better, you just don't have any control over if you hit there or not. Right about the groin though.

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switch(hit_area)
			if(BODY_ZONE_HEAD)
				if(!I.get_sharpness() && armor_block < 50)
					if(prob(I.force))
						H.adjustOrganLoss(ORGAN_SLOT_BRAIN, 20)
						if(H.stat == CONSCIOUS)
							H.visible_message("<span class='danger'>[H] is knocked senseless!</span>", \
											"<span class='userdanger'>You're knocked senseless!</span>")
							H.confused = max(H.confused, 20)
							H.adjust_blurriness(10)
						if(prob(10))
							H.gain_trauma(/datum/brain_trauma/mild/concussion)
					else
						H.adjustOrganLoss(ORGAN_SLOT_BRAIN, I.force * 0.2)

					if(H.mind && H.stat == CONSCIOUS && H != user && prob(I.force + ((100 - H.health) * 0.5))) // rev deconversion through blunt trauma.
						var/datum/antagonist/rev/rev = H.mind.has_antag_datum(/datum/antagonist/rev)
						if(rev)
							rev.remove_revolutionary(FALSE, user)

				if(bloody)	//Apply blood
					if(H.wear_mask)
						H.wear_mask.add_mob_blood(H)
						H.update_inv_wear_mask()
					if(H.head)
						H.head.add_mob_blood(H)
						H.update_inv_head()
					if(H.glasses && prob(33))
						H.glasses.add_mob_blood(H)
						H.update_inv_glasses()

			if(BODY_ZONE_CHEST)
				if(H.stat == CONSCIOUS && !I.get_sharpness() && armor_block < 50)
					if(prob(I.force))
						H.visible_message("<span class='danger'>[H] is knocked down!</span>", \
									"<span class='userdanger'>You're knocked down!</span>")
						H.apply_effect(60, EFFECT_KNOCKDOWN, armor_block)

				if(bloody)
					if(H.wear_suit)
						H.wear_suit.add_mob_blood(H)
						H.update_inv_wear_suit()
					if(H.w_uniform)
						H.w_uniform.add_mob_blood(H)
						H.update_inv_w_uniform()

		if(Iforce > 10 || Iforce >= 5 && prob(33))
			H.forcesay(GLOB.hit_appends)	//forcesay checks stat already.
	return TRUE

Some side notes about melee:


Melee attacks deal between 1 and 10 raw damage.
Accuracy is determined by a roll of 1-100.
Attacks only miss on a roll of 25 or lower.

Different attacks have different effects.
Kicks never miss and deal raw damage multiplied by 1.5
Punches, claws, smashes and slashes deal regular damage and stamina damage equal to raw damage multiplied by 1.5
You always kick if you're standing and your victim isn't.

It's why being fully augged won't make you immune to melee, your opponent can still kill you with a knockdown punch and kicks.

[PKPenguin321]

Flightsuits were dope

Correct, this is a misconception

[Jack7D1]

[Electronics]

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Exactly this. Every time.

[PKPenguin321]

FUCK safety, your boy is replacing every pipe with volume pumps. we're PRESSURIZED in this bitch

[Anonmare]

Passive gates are better than volume for maintaining constant amounts of pressure levels. They're like valves but they only work one way and you can set the target pressure.

For example, set a passive to 350 KPa leading into Distro and it will fill distro up to 350 KPa equally as fast as a regular pipe would, but as soon as distro's pressure equals 350 KPa - the passsive gate will stop an not let more gas pass.
This ensure constant gas flow without being nearly as wasteful as a volume pump and allow you to modify the distro pipes without getting blasted constantly, and it means assistants wrenching pipes won't cause annoying overpressure in rooms.

Volume pumps should only be used when dealing with high pressure gas, such as in an incinerator, or where constant flow is not a goal, as with the waste loop.

Regular gas pumps have a niché use for preventing you from accidentally using all your gas up at once, best left on the holding tanks but ought to never be used in actual set-ups 95% of the time.

[Jack7D1]

Thank you Anon for letting me know passive gates are better than gas pumps for constant pressure. (Distro)
I would argue that gas pumps have a place for constant pressure output, IE you have a canister of nitrogen at exactly 3000 kPa

[Anonmare]

I've found that gas pumps take significantly longer to reach their pressure target than any other pump so I use them for slow-bleed systems like holding tanks.

Volume pumping distro is not a good idea as you'll lose a lot of air simply from the regular breaches caused by space dust, and explosions will drain those tanks dry within 30 minutes if you don't have an AI paying attention. The only advantage to overpressurising distro is for killing monkeys.

It also makes dealing with a plasma flood harder as you need to bleed the entire loop to ensure you removed all trace of plasma from the system, it also ensures the plasma has plenty of O2 to react with and make fires burn hotter if fires happen.

[NecromancerAnne]

Emergency firesuits still actually are good and fine for a ghetto spacesuit, you just need to get coffee to mitigate, not negate the cold. They're pressure proof and you need both the suit and helmet for it to work. This makes them invaluable if the ai vents a room, as vented rooms do not vent temperature.

Bio suits currently do nothing. Whatever they were meant to do was never implemented.

Hollowpoints will add armor to any amount of armor your target is wearing if it is higher than 0%. It's not just traditional body armor, its checking for bullet armor. Often clothing pieces have a lot of incidental bullet armor, like engineering hardsuits 5%. This means hollowpoints aren't usable against anyone wearing pretty much anything on the limb you aim for since there exists a lot of invisible armor, like security berets and hard hats. In fact, an emergency firesuit and helmet will cause hollowpoint 10mm to do even less damage than standard 10mm despite costing more, rendering the purchase a massive waste and possibly saving your life. (Stop using hollowpoints)