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VexingRaven wrote:I can't help but notice all the people crying that this is going to EMBOLDEN CERTAIN BAD PEOPLE carry a certain political viewpoint which is incredibly obvious no matter how hard they try to hide it and make it seem like a genuine unbiased concern for the server...

DrPillzRedux wrote:Saying nigger, nigga, or any other variation ingame is an instant ban in Lifeweb. Constantly saying it in the discord is also a way to get kicked/banned from the discord.

Let that sink in.

Jack7D1 wrote:why is everyone making huge posts

YuiY1997 wrote:Okay but bigotry should be allowed against the british

YuiY1997 wrote:Okay but bigotry should be allowed against the british

Jack7D1 wrote:

Sheodir wrote: why aren't you an admin anymore

I didn't want to

Super Aggro Crag wrote:you won't be alive in 5 years

Skelus wrote: This is every hobbyist community right now, all while they insist the slippery slope is a fallacy and they don't want to control you, simply be a "decent human being" and you wont feel the bootheel for the next week.

Ayy Lemoh wrote:

Skelus wrote: This is every hobbyist community right now, all while they insist the slippery slope is a fallacy and they don't want to control you, simply be a "decent human being" and you wont feel the bootheel for the next week.

I honestly just hate this. I don't care if the changes that occur is ultra benevolent for the greater good or some shit - the slippery slope "fallacy" isn't really much of a fucking fallacy anymore these days so it's definitely fucking real. If someone disagrees then please explain how communities on the internet have gradually changed. If the oldguard of a community are racist bigot scum spawns of chaos that need to get out then how were they removed in the first place if there is no such thing as a fucking slip-n-slide slope? I'm pretty sure that slippery slope situations have even happened in real life when it comes to real laws, even changing society for the better perhaps.

It's straight up a fucking manipulative lie, no matter the moral intentions behind it. I'm pretty sure that it's only rarely a fallacy these days like that theory of how "bruh, catpeople gonna degenerate /tg/station" was once a thing when that clearly hasn't happened.

Really, I'm not fucking joking - if this is literally just a fallacy and nothing else then explain how internet communities changed besides "people change" or some really simple crap that is vague.

Gigapuddi420 wrote:I'm kind of wondering if that's really worth replying to because in many ways it really is that simple. Times change and the overall attitudes people have shift to reflect the new "normal". What was once a wild west slowly get gentrified as communities decide they don't have to put up with some of this shit and tell people to knock it off. In most communities I wouldn't even call it a conspiracy or power play, it typically comes from efforts to improve the community as people complain to leaders maybe because they got upset or are thin skinned, but all the same the real question slowly start to pop up "Why do we have to tolerate this shit?". Inevitably people consider the freedom to express ourselves; okay, it shouldn't be unlimited because harassment is real shitty and you don't want some perv forcing their fetish on someone they are fixated on. You consider why do you tolerate racism within the community? Some of those jokes are funny and at times it's highlighting just how stupid those people can be... only they are standing around in the same community shouting their genuine hate for niggers. Just how far do you tolerate it?

Previously it would be like "well whatever, that's the internet for you. Just don't let it bother you." People who were bothered might still report it, god knows I told some people in my time (a relative short while ago in /tg/ history) that we didn't police speech so just kill them in game or whatever. Point is that it was bothering some people and that in turn makes the idea of well "why put up with it" more palatable until eventually there aren't enough old guard to stick to the idea of keeping it around for freedom of expression alone. I couldn't say we're any more or less racist then we used to be, just that the tolerance for it has worn thin and people who wouldn't pipe up about it before are more vocal about getting something done. If someone as based as MSO can finally throw his hands up in the air and go with the flow I'm not really sure what more there is to say besides hope you can convince him otherwise. If the admins enforce it poorly who knows, it might get revoked so consider looking hard at when you do apply such a ban.

Vekter wrote:To absolutely nobody's shock nothing has really changed on the servers aside from a few idiots being yeeted for screaming about how much they hate minorities.

So I'd say this change was a success.

Super Aggro Crag wrote:

Vekter wrote:To absolutely nobody's shock nothing has really changed on the servers aside from a few idiots being yeeted for screaming about how much they hate minorities.

So I'd say this change was a success.

Except the people screaming antifa horseshit in OOC now, yeah.

I mean you could have gotten rid of those people without changing the rules just by banning them for being a dick and taking the server off the hub since those sort of goobs only show up on the stinky pub container hells from what I've seen.

Gigapuddi420 wrote:I'm kind of wondering if that's really worth replying to because in many ways it really is that simple. Times change and the overall attitudes people have shift to reflect the new "normal". What was once a wild west slowly get gentrified as communities decide they don't have to put up with some of this shit and tell people to knock it off. In most communities I wouldn't even call it a conspiracy or power play, it typically comes from efforts to improve the community as people complain to leaders maybe because they got upset or are thin skinned, but all the same the real question slowly start to pop up "Why do we have to tolerate this shit?". Inevitably people consider the freedom to express ourselves; okay, it shouldn't be unlimited because harassment is real shitty and you don't want some perv forcing their fetish on someone they are fixated on. You consider why do you tolerate racism within the community? Some of those jokes are funny and at times it's highlighting just how stupid those people can be... only they are standing around in the same community shouting their genuine hate for niggers. Just how far do you tolerate it?

Previously it would be like "well whatever, that's the internet for you. Just don't let it bother you." People who were bothered might still report it, god knows I told some people in my time (a relative short while ago in /tg/ history) that we didn't police speech so just kill them in game or whatever. Point is that it was bothering some people and that in turn makes the idea of well "why put up with it" more palatable until eventually there aren't enough old guard to stick to the idea of keeping it around for freedom of expression alone. I couldn't say we're any more or less racist then we used to be, just that the tolerance for it has worn thin and people who wouldn't pipe up about it before are more vocal about getting something done. If someone as based as MSO can finally throw his hands up in the air and go with the flow I'm not really sure what more there is to say besides hope you can convince him otherwise. If the admins enforce it poorly who knows, it might get revoked so consider looking hard at when you do apply such a ban.

IkeTG wrote:

Ayy Lemoh wrote: words words words

get yoted upon turbonerd, fear of change only makes things worse

BONERMASTER wrote:Coming from the guy that wanted to extort the entire server by cutting his services, stepping down as admin and putting warning messages on his website, with intent to get one innocent user kicked out and removed from the community, that happens to offer the same service but more popular (and more functional). You should be blacklisted from setting foot in here, and it hits the nail right on the head that you're joining along with the moral people chorus.

Super Aggro Crag wrote:Why do you have a screenshot of that? In my opinion it should be an ic Issue, make them valid for people to beat up and arrest and dock their pay and make them visit the psychiatrist for sensitivity training.

Grazyn wrote:

Super Aggro Crag wrote:Why do you have a screenshot of that? In my opinion it should be an ic Issue, make them valid for people to beat up and arrest and dock their pay and make them visit the psychiatrist for sensitivity training.

I took it now on one of the empty EU servers as to not offend anyone

I'm asking because it's the character I've been playing for years

Cobby wrote:Blackface appearance only is fine but be careful not to do anything that could be perceived as a racist jab at blacks.

Skelus wrote:

Cobby wrote:Blackface appearance only is fine but be careful not to do anything that could be perceived as a racist jab at blacks.

This had better be a bad case of satire so help me.

FloranOtten wrote:

Skelus wrote:

Cobby wrote:Blackface appearance only is fine but be careful not to do anything that could be perceived as a racist jab at blacks.

This had better be a bad case of satire so help me.

If you play as a blackface character, then start talking in a stereotypical accent about stealing and loving chicken, you're getting bwoinked.

Super Aggro Crag wrote:If ur roleplaying as a white guy acting like a minstrel in black face that's roleplaying as a stupid white asshole, it doesnt reflect upon black people.

terranaut wrote:

Super Aggro Crag wrote:If ur roleplaying as a white guy acting like a minstrel in black face that's roleplaying as a stupid white asshole, it doesnt reflect upon black people.

what if the person doing it is black though is that racist then

Cobby wrote:Mastering the art of hut posting really comes in handy in these troubling times.

Ayy Lemoh wrote:

terranaut wrote:

Super Aggro Crag wrote:If ur roleplaying as a white guy acting like a minstrel in black face that's roleplaying as a stupid white asshole, it doesnt reflect upon black people.

what if the person doing it is black though is that racist then

If black people in real life are involved then this is probably a complicated question that can be a very huge difference of opinion blah blah bla...

If someone makes a black spaceman with the afro/beard combination that looks like blackface then spraypaints their head with a black spraycan then is there really a difference if the spaceman was white? The difference is basically just whether or not that person can joke about having an excuse however that doesn't really mean much though.

FloranOtten wrote:

Skelus wrote:

Cobby wrote:Blackface appearance only is fine but be careful not to do anything that could be perceived as a racist jab at blacks.

This had better be a bad case of satire so help me.

If you play as a blackface character, then start talking in a stereotypical accent about stealing and loving chicken, you're getting bwoinked.

Skelus wrote:Is it unacceptable to spraypaint your face white as a black character and act as boring, productive, and well spoken as possible

XDTM wrote:

Skelus wrote:Is it unacceptable to spraypaint your face white as a black character and act as boring, productive, and well spoken as possible

Gee i wonder why anyone would think that /tg/ attracts white supremacists