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Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:58 pm
by Grazyn

Bottom post of the previous page:

Ayy Lemoh wrote:
terranaut wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:If ur roleplaying as a white guy acting like a minstrel in black face that's roleplaying as a stupid white asshole, it doesnt reflect upon black people.
what if the person doing it is black though is that racist then
If black people in real life are involved then this is probably a complicated question that can be a very huge difference of opinion blah blah bla...

If someone makes a black spaceman with the afro/beard combination that looks like blackface then spraypaints their head with a black spraycan then is there really a difference if the spaceman was white? The difference is basically just whether or not that person can joke about having an excuse however that doesn't really mean much though.
That was my previous character and I didn't have any admin issues, I received a lot of IC harassment in the form of "LOOK AT THAT JIGABOO" "WUSSUP NIGGEST NIGGA" though. Strangely enough, the harassment suddenly disappeared once I switched to albino+spray.

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:58 pm
by wesoda25
Sorry I will correct that now.

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:10 pm
by Skelus
FloranOtten wrote:
Skelus wrote:
Cobby wrote:Blackface appearance only is fine but be careful not to do anything that could be perceived as a racist jab at blacks.
This had better be a bad case of satire so help me.
If you play as a blackface character, then start talking in a stereotypical accent about stealing and loving chicken, you're getting bwoinked.
If you can play blackface but cant make jabs at nogs while you do it then what is the difference between that and saying "lol fuck you nigger" or laughing at the expense of black crew IC.
Is it unacceptable to spraypaint your face white as a black character and act as boring, productive, and well spoken as possible?
I can already see the Neue-adminstration, henceforth referred to as the soy-administration is already stumbling over giving us a defining line on muh big-o-tree and muh harassment and thats why this new rule is trash.
Frankly the timing of this shiny new rule reeks of social signalling on behalf of a dead multiple-felon.
Here at TG we care about [Progressive issue of the week] Thats why we are taking action against [Concept that makes trans-flag/hammer-and-sickle upset]

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:16 pm
by XDTM
Skelus wrote:Is it unacceptable to spraypaint your face white as a black character and act as boring, productive, and well spoken as possible
Gee i wonder why anyone would think that /tg/ attracts white supremacists

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:21 pm
by Skelus
XDTM wrote:
Skelus wrote:Is it unacceptable to spraypaint your face white as a black character and act as boring, productive, and well spoken as possible
Gee i wonder why anyone would think that /tg/ attracts white supremacists
Critical race theory is being blasted into the heads of unfortunate government employees across the US and specifically cites things like "Hard-working attitude", "Holding oneself accountable" and "Desire for self improvement" as white traits that need to be dismantled.
You tell me where the white supremacist dogma is.

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:00 pm
by Tarchonvaagh
Wait did this and the blackface policy discussion thread get merged or what

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:51 pm
by Grazyn
Tarchonvaagh wrote:Wait did this and the blackface policy discussion thread get merged or what
This is about IC blackface

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:06 pm
by Tarchonvaagh
So is the other thread

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:15 pm
by Grazyn
Tarchonvaagh wrote:So is the other thread
This kind of blackface
Spoiler:
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Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:30 pm
by Tarchonvaagh
It looks diabolic, like leatherface

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:42 pm
by Jack7D1
BONERMASTER wrote:Coming from the guy that wanted to extort the entire server by cutting his services, stepping down as admin and putting warning messages on his website, with intent to get one innocent user kicked out and removed from the community, that happens to offer the same service but more popular (and more functional). You should be blacklisted from setting foot in here, and it hits the nail right on the head that you're joining along with the moral people chorus.
yeah what the heck was that

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:49 pm
by Atlanta-Ned
Jack7D1 wrote:
BONERMASTER wrote:Coming from the guy that wanted to extort the entire server by cutting his services, stepping down as admin and putting warning messages on his website, with intent to get one innocent user kicked out and removed from the community, that happens to offer the same service but more popular (and more functional). You should be blacklisted from setting foot in here, and it hits the nail right on the head that you're joining along with the moral people chorus.
yeah what the heck was that
lmao at least im not defending racist assholes

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:52 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
Nice ad hominem Ned really makes your argument seem well thought out and defensible instead of a spiteful tantrum by a fucking subby bottom fuckboy who thinks replying to sexts with "hehe and then what do you do to me ;)?" counts as a personality.

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:58 pm
by Space Panda
hehe and then what do you do to me ;)?

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:00 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
Space Panda wrote:hehe and then what do you do to me ;)?
Lol

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:02 pm
by Space Panda
Super Aggro Crag wrote:
Space Panda wrote:hehe and then what do you do to me ;)?
Lol
don't just stare at me and laugh... :oops:

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:24 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
*points at you and says eekum bokum*

Eekum Bokum!

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:35 pm
by Space Panda
*turns into a flyperson*

s-so you'd prefer that I looked like this? :(

*drools*

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:37 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
*hangs strip of adhesive paper from the ceiling*

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:43 pm
by Space Panda
*gets glued to the flypaper*

oh no, this paper is too sticky! Help me, Crag!

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:51 pm
by actioninja
Skelus wrote: If you can play blackface but cant make jabs at nogs while you do it then what is the difference between that and saying "lol fuck you nigger" or laughing at the expense of black crew IC.
Is it unacceptable to spraypaint your face white as a black character and act as boring, productive, and well spoken as possible?
I can already see the Neue-adminstration, henceforth referred to as the soy-administration is already stumbling over giving us a defining line on muh big-o-tree and muh harassment and thats why this new rule is trash.
Frankly the timing of this shiny new rule reeks of social signalling on behalf of a dead multiple-felon.
Here at TG we care about [Progressive issue of the week] Thats why we are taking action against [Concept that makes trans-flag/hammer-and-sickle upset]
I should start making a tally for how many posts it takes for "reasonable posters concerned about censorship" to start posting blatant /pol/ tier garbage.

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:00 pm
by Sheodir
Super Aggro Crag wrote:*points at you and says eekum bokum*

Eekum Bokum!
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actioninja wrote:
I should start making a tally for how many posts it takes for "reasonable posters concerned about censorship" to start posting blatant /pol/ tier garbage.
I didn't say anything

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:18 pm
by terranaut
actioninja wrote:
Skelus wrote: If you can play blackface but cant make jabs at nogs while you do it then what is the difference between that and saying "lol fuck you nigger" or laughing at the expense of black crew IC.
Is it unacceptable to spraypaint your face white as a black character and act as boring, productive, and well spoken as possible?
I can already see the Neue-adminstration, henceforth referred to as the soy-administration is already stumbling over giving us a defining line on muh big-o-tree and muh harassment and thats why this new rule is trash.
Frankly the timing of this shiny new rule reeks of social signalling on behalf of a dead multiple-felon.
Here at TG we care about [Progressive issue of the week] Thats why we are taking action against [Concept that makes trans-flag/hammer-and-sickle upset]
I should start making a tally for how many posts it takes for "reasonable posters concerned about censorship" to start posting blatant /pol/ tier garbage.
this retard exists on both sides
there's "can we maybe not censor speech" and "can we maybe not say the n-word" as the reasonable people and then there's retards like skelus on the one side and retards who are gonna start foaming at every imagined and perceived slight like that clown who reported crags post
clearly the common enemy we have is retards

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:13 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
Space Panda wrote:*gets glued to the flypaper*

oh no, this paper is too sticky! Help me, Crag!
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terranaut says the common enemy is retards...


you know who ELSE wanted to exterminate the retarded?

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Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:16 pm
by terranaut
i'm going to exterminate crag

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:18 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
terranaut wrote:i'm going to exterminate crag
so much for the reasonable centrists :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:36 pm
by Grazyn
Shouldn't the title be "rest in power"?

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:48 pm
by Timonk
God dammit yall nerfed assistants I can't call seccies nigger anymore to bait them into maint and buckle cuff them

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:52 pm
by Jack7D1
who wants to erp with me

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:54 pm
by Timonk
Me, let's meet in dorms 4... jk unless...?

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:58 pm
by Space Panda
is this an erp thread now? :3

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:04 pm
by terranaut
Space Panda wrote:is this an erp thread now? :3
Yes ^w^

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:41 pm
by Qbopper
one time i saw someone was being racist (not on tgstation) and i said he shouldnt do that so he apologized to me and then started telling me he didnt mean to be racist he just thinks that black people aren't human

i wish this was a joke

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:05 pm
by Sometinyprick
To be honest, I've been here a long fucking time and for a long time felt proud that we didn't need to introduce any type of ban of this nature mostly because a large portion of our population came from "old /tg/ and /v/" where offensive humour was common but there was an understanding it wasn't done with any hate or bigotry in mind, it was just dumb jokes that were sometimes funny and sometimes not and the very few people who drank the koolaid and went full in were pretty much shunned and mostly got lynched IC and OOC if they went full neo-nazi. Also to say we were an offshoot of /tg/ isn't really correct they hated us and banned our threads since atleast early 2011 urist was the tg ss13 server plus most of our players came from /v/ in Summer 2012

However things change the number of people who couldn't differentiate between crude jokes and real actual bigotry increased pretty much fucking everywhere on the internet and everything became a lot more polarised. Tgstation is no exception and imo there's way too many people drinking the fucking kool-aid last time I logged into the server I saw a fucking 3-4 page OOC argument about racemixing off all fucking things and multiple people screaming "nigger" in the comms not at anyone in particular just stupid shit like "I hate fucking niggers" with no context or IC interaction applied to it just a very poor attempt at edgy humour. I agree with the spirit of the new rule I feel it gives people the freedom to still use slurs in the context of in character interactions while removing the people who just like to scream slurs to piss people off.

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:18 pm
by oranges
terranaut wrote:
actioninja wrote:
Skelus wrote: If you can play blackface but cant make jabs at nogs while you do it then what is the difference between that and saying "lol fuck you nigger" or laughing at the expense of black crew IC.
Is it unacceptable to spraypaint your face white as a black character and act as boring, productive, and well spoken as possible?
I can already see the Neue-adminstration, henceforth referred to as the soy-administration is already stumbling over giving us a defining line on muh big-o-tree and muh harassment and thats why this new rule is trash.
Frankly the timing of this shiny new rule reeks of social signalling on behalf of a dead multiple-felon.
Here at TG we care about [Progressive issue of the week] Thats why we are taking action against [Concept that makes trans-flag/hammer-and-sickle upset]
I should start making a tally for how many posts it takes for "reasonable posters concerned about censorship" to start posting blatant /pol/ tier garbage.
this retard exists on both sides
there's "can we maybe not censor speech" and "can we maybe not say the n-word" as the reasonable people and then there's retards like skelus on the one side and retards who are gonna start foaming at every imagined and perceived slight like that clown who reported crags post
clearly the common enemy we have is retards
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Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:26 pm
by BONERMASTER
Atlanta-Ned wrote:lmao at least im not defending racist assholes
So when you abduct and mail the remains of your competing employees to their families, will they die reassured, that it has really, absolutely nothing to do with their race?

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:29 pm
by saprasam
roll d20 for racism level

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:34 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
Qbopper wrote:one time i saw someone was being racist (not on tgstation) and i said he shouldnt do that so he apologized to me and then started telling me he didnt mean to be racist he just thinks that black people aren't human

i wish this was a joke
black people are human

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:17 pm
by iksyp
Atlanta-Ned wrote:
the bee did nothing wrong
lmao at least im not defending racist assholes
this type of behavior from players, admins, and coders is why this server is fucked, not because of an anti bigotry rule
you guys never want to listen to each other so you pull shit like this and act offended when you're all generalized as self-centered asshats
its one of two reasons why i barely play anymore, now im just another one of the people here to stir shit and make people upset so i can watch as you all implode

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:11 pm
by oranges
it must be quite upsetting for you to sit here as tg steadfastly refuses to implode as you wish it then?

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:13 pm
by wesoda25
Crazy fun fact: you can play the game and ignore drama.

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:14 pm
by oranges
well unless you signed yourself up to get CBT by being an admin or forum mod or something

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:51 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
wesoda25 wrote:Crazy fun fact: you can play the game and ignore drama.
not if you're a coder

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:53 pm
by Stickymayhem
iksyp wrote:
Atlanta-Ned wrote:
the bee did nothing wrong
lmao at least im not defending racist assholes
this type of behavior from players, admins, and coders is why this server is fucked, not because of an anti bigotry rule
you guys never want to listen to each other so you pull shit like this and act offended when you're all generalized as self-centered asshats
its one of two reasons why i barely play anymore, now im just another one of the people here to stir shit and make people upset so i can watch as you all implode
whats the other reason WHATS THE OTHER REASON IKE WE HAVE TO KNOW

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:13 am
by cacogen
wesoda25 wrote:Crazy fun fact: you can play the game and ignore drama.
well yeah but i want to be ~informed~

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:49 am
by Skelus
actioninja wrote:
Skelus wrote: If you can play blackface but cant make jabs at nogs while you do it then what is the difference between that and saying "lol fuck you nigger" or laughing at the expense of black crew IC.
Is it unacceptable to spraypaint your face white as a black character and act as boring, productive, and well spoken as possible?
I can already see the Neue-adminstration, henceforth referred to as the soy-administration is already stumbling over giving us a defining line on muh big-o-tree and muh harassment and thats why this new rule is trash.
Frankly the timing of this shiny new rule reeks of social signalling on behalf of a dead multiple-felon.
Here at TG we care about [Progressive issue of the week] Thats why we are taking action against [Concept that makes trans-flag/hammer-and-sickle upset]
I should start making a tally for how many posts it takes for "reasonable posters concerned about censorship" to start posting blatant /pol/ tier garbage.
I can make a tally until "JUST USE BASIC HUMAN DECENCY!!1!" but thats typically a null value.
And then you have atlanta-ned with "I may be a manipulative piece of shit but atleast i'm not a racist" unironically.

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:01 am
by Sheodir
Can someone inform of this Atlanta Ned situation? I can't find anything on it.

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:40 am
by Stickymayhem
Sheodir wrote:Can someone inform of this Atlanta Ned situation? I can't find anything on it.
bobbah did some dodgey data management stuff with scrubby (minor, but a minor violation of it's users) and atlanta was unhappy and shut down the game stats pages in protest. Bobbah acknowledged his mistake and apologised and atlanta put the page back up.

The real drama was in the mean words everyone used the actual situation wasn't all that exciting and only heavily impacted admins, since it was their data primarily being mishandled and the statbus stuff is most heavily used by them

this is a massive oversimplification but it's the gist

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:42 am
by wesoda25
I think the security thing was an equal concern for both players and admins, but yeah.

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:06 am
by Sheodir
Stickymayhem wrote:
Sheodir wrote:Can someone inform of this Atlanta Ned situation? I can't find anything on it.
bobbah did some dodgey data management stuff with scrubby (minor, but a minor violation of it's users) and atlanta was unhappy and shut down the game stats pages in protest. Bobbah acknowledged his mistake and apologised and atlanta put the page back up.

The real drama was in the mean words everyone used the actual situation wasn't all that exciting and only heavily impacted admins, since it was their data primarily being mishandled and the statbus stuff is most heavily used by them

this is a massive oversimplification but it's the gist
Thank you strange snail creature

Re: Rest in Peace, /tg/Station

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:25 am
by Stickymayhem
wesoda25 wrote:I think the security thing was an equal concern for both players and admins, but yeah.
thats fair, the specific misuse involved admin data but yeah it applied to everyone