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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby thehogshotgun » Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:15 am #590172

How deluded do you have to be to think you have a chance



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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Armhulen » Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:16 am #590173

candidates looking bad this time, lets hope coco runs again
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby wesoda25 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:30 am #590175

considering starting a patreon for one dollar art commissions

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby bobbahbrown » Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:34 am #590176

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby XivilaiAnaxes » Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:50 am #590178

Armhulen wrote:candidates looking bad this time, lets hope coco runs again

You're right, this is the perfect year for any clown to run.

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Critawakets » Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:51 am #590179

vote for me as headmin and i'll legalize marijuana

i'll also replace lobby1 (it SUKS) with E.G.G.M.A.N. from sonic adventure 2
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby iwishforducks » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:03 am #590189

i sure hope, whoever the next headmin is, does better than "lets egg on players to say the n word right after bigotry was banned in the discord"

which might be too high of a bar. maybe.
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby remanseptim » Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:43 pm #590203

headmin candidate trying way too hard to seem carefree and cool
copious amounts of autism
sticky doing something stupid then saying "rent free" when called out on it
the only time out of the year oranges behaves with professionalism
candidates pretending to respect each other
passive aggressive smiley faces
copious amounts of autism

edit: moth and lizard circlejerkers wondering why no one outside of manuel likes them

edit 2: manuelmin wondering why nobody outside of manuel likes them

edit 3: manuelmin wondering why nobody including manuel likes them
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby wesoda25 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:28 pm #590204

Rare good post from reman

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Stickymayhem » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:54 pm #590210

remanseptim wrote:sticky doing something stupid then saying "rent free" when called out on it


rent free
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Kendrickorium » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:54 pm #590211

remanseptim wrote:headmin candidate trying way too hard to seem carefree and cool
copious amounts of autism
sticky doing something stupid then saying "rent free" when called out on it
the only time out of the year oranges behaves with professionalism
candidates pretending to respect each other
passive aggressive smiley faces
copious amounts of autism

edit: moth and lizard circlejerkers wondering why no one outside of manuel likes them

edit 2: manuelmin wondering why nobody outside of manuel likes them

edit 3: manuelmin wondering why nobody including manuel likes them


after 2 years of /tg/ this is all incredibly accurate
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Gogodapogostick » Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:14 pm #590212

Armhulen wrote:candidates looking bad this time, lets hope coco runs again

wow arm....

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Armhulen » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:27 pm #590219

Gogodapogostick wrote:
Armhulen wrote:candidates looking bad this time, lets hope coco runs again

wow arm....

You don't even have an avatar and you've played 9 times in the last month. Who the fuck gonna be voting for someone they never see online for the player vote, the host pick is always a safe pick and the admin vote is usually a repick/gm/trainer

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Armhulen » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:29 pm #590220

Anyone else running with connections like these, you're gonna get fucking bodied if you do. player vote is about name recognition and false promises

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby BONERMASTER » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:33 pm #590221

Armhulen wrote:
Gogodapogostick wrote:
Armhulen wrote:candidates looking bad this time, lets hope coco runs again

wow arm....

You don't even have an avatar


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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Gogodapogostick » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:34 pm #590222

Armhulen wrote:Anyone else running with connections like these, you're gonna get fucking bodied if you do. player vote is about name recognition and false promises

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby iamgoofball » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:38 pm #590223

CoffeeDragon16 wrote:GOOF 2021

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby iwishforducks » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:44 pm #590225

armhulen has a spore avatar so im most likely going to put them as my #2 just because it's a very cool avatar

also can i become the landlord of manuel? for some reason people just can't shut up about manuel and i wanna cash in on it
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Armhulen » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:45 pm #590226

iwishforducks wrote:armhulen has a spore avatar so im most likely going to put them as my #2 just because it's a very cool avatar

also can i become the landlord of manuel? for some reason people just can't shut up about manuel and i wanna cash in on it

i fking love spore man grew up on that shit
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Timberpoes » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:48 pm #590227

I will be running on a platform of "If you want me spending less time coding, vote for me so I'm too busy to nerf your various departments."
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Tlaltecuhtli » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:44 pm #590230

which one is going to revert this bs policy about revs?

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Vekter » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:50 pm #590231

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Jaredfogle » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:54 pm #590232

Tlaltecuhtli wrote:which one is going to revert this bs policy about revs?


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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Tlaltecuhtli » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:58 pm #590233

yeah i m talking about policy blind man

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby oranges » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:20 pm #590237

Don't worry about that guy tlalt he has brain damages

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby cacogen » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:31 pm #590238

Armhulen wrote:player vote is about name recognition and false promises

Yeah

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby chocolate_bickie » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:46 pm #590240

Armhulen wrote:player vote is about name recognition and false promises


Compared to the admin vote which is all about name recognition and metafriends.

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Armhulen » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:08 pm #590241

chocolate_bickie wrote:
Armhulen wrote:player vote is about name recognition and false promises


Compared to the admin vote which is all about name recognition and metafriends.

just metafriends, active admins (aka the ones voting) is much smaller than the whole pool of admins as the ones who come by monthly or less most likely skip the vote.
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Tlaltecuhtli » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:19 pm #590242

more reasons to remove their admin role if they are going to even skip voting for the shadow gov

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Armhulen » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:24 pm #590243

Tlaltecuhtli wrote:more reasons to remove their admin role if they are going to even skip voting for the shadow gov

inactive admins is an honestly fake problem made up by players and admins trying to sucker players when you consider its effects compared to every actual real problem caused by active admins and current systems used day to day just remember that
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Farquaar » Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:15 pm #590245

Armhulen wrote:i fking love spore man grew up on that shit

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Naloac » Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:23 am #590251

Armhulen wrote:
Tlaltecuhtli wrote:more reasons to remove their admin role if they are going to even skip voting for the shadow gov

inactive admins is an honestly fake problem made up by players and admins trying to sucker players when you consider its effects compared to every actual real problem caused by active admins and current systems used day to day just remember that


Inactive admins can vote on headmins in the admin vote meaning quite literally that abunch of inactive admins can help steer policy by voting for headmins about 60ish admins have less or about 100~ hours in 90 days

about 40 of those have less than 30 hours. Arguing that inactives arent a problem is wrong at best and dishonest at worst.
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby oranges » Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:57 am #590254

you're complaining about a situation created by your own hand?

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby legality » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:19 am #590255

Naloac wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
Tlaltecuhtli wrote:more reasons to remove their admin role if they are going to even skip voting for the shadow gov

inactive admins is an honestly fake problem made up by players and admins trying to sucker players when you consider its effects compared to every actual real problem caused by active admins and current systems used day to day just remember that

about 60ish admins have less or about 100~ hours in 90 days


arguing that you have to physically be on the server (not just in the community, but on the server) >1 hour per day on average for 90 days to be considered 'active' is a bit insane

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Swept » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:28 am #590256

I've been having a lot of trouble peeing lately. I think it's that i'm just - "forgetting" to piss. My bladder is full but my mind is not firing the neurons that compel me to get up and piss. I can sit for a couple of hours with a full bladder and then get up and piss for 3 minutes straight. Sometimes, I feel like I can feel the kidney stones forming in my bladder. LITERALLY feel the crystallization going on.

Idk, maybe I just need to focus on the smaller things in life more. I feel like as time goes on, I worry more and more about the bigger picture, letting the smaller stuff slip away.
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Jaredfogle » Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:41 am #590260

can someone run on a campaign for forum banning swept? i dont care about his post that much, i just think itd be kinda funny
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby XivilaiAnaxes » Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:44 am #590261

I mean you can run on whatever the hell you want as long as mso doesn't veto you
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Jaredfogle » Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:09 am #590263

may someone run on a campaign for forum banning swept? i dont care about his post that much, i just think itd be kinda funny
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Swept » Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:11 am #590264

Jaredfogle wrote:may someone run on a campaign for forum banning swept? i dont care about his post that much, i just think itd be kinda funny


Can I run on banning myself from the forum?
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby wesoda25 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:16 am #590265

no

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Jaredfogle » Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:52 am #590268

Swept wrote:
Jaredfogle wrote:may someone run on a campaign for forum banning swept? i dont care about his post that much, i just think itd be kinda funny


Can I run on banning myself from the forum?

I mean you can run on whatever the hell you want as long as mso doesn't veto you
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Armhulen » Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:54 am #590270

Naloac wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
Tlaltecuhtli wrote:more reasons to remove their admin role if they are going to even skip voting for the shadow gov

inactive admins is an honestly fake problem made up by players and admins trying to sucker players when you consider its effects compared to every actual real problem caused by active admins and current systems used day to day just remember that


Inactive admins can vote on headmins in the admin vote meaning quite literally that abunch of inactive admins can help steer policy by voting for headmins about 60ish admins have less or about 100~ hours in 90 days

about 40 of those have less than 30 hours. Arguing that inactives arent a problem is wrong at best and dishonest at worst.


I can think up 5 reasons why this talking point recycled from 6 months ago (your platform) is stupid:

1. you campaigned and won on fixing this "problem" yet here we are complaining about it at the beginning of the next election which just points towards not being a real problem just some talking point that poofs into existence at the start of each election well knowing that we already curate admins that stop connecting all together
2. zero problems were created from those people this term, at all. They weren't that active, but they handled tickets when they were online and that's good
3. think about the ones who stay fairly inactive but quietly help out when appropriate. The good quietly outnumbers the bad and that's a huge point why they exist and you didn't run into issues this term.
4. I'd like to see how many inactive admins honestly vote in elections like they give a shit considering they're barely interacting with headmins and they definitely aren't putting time into policy discussion or #admin-bus or the game or any other medium. seems solvable with a filter either way
5. let's think back to when admins who were inactive came back to cause drama (two come to my mind but lets be polite). consider how horrible they were when active too and then come to the conclusion on whether this was an issue created by the inactivity or by the person who should have been removed from the team. I've seen the cyclical rotating door of drama repeats over the years and a some are issues with old systems being flawed but the massive majority end up easily deductible to an admin that tip toes the line of drama and is not removed when they should be/let back when they should never have been. In that sense, by killing inactives, you've already failed to curate the team.
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Armhulen » Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:58 am #590271

Let me also just say: The thing headmins keep saying (I brought this up today in admin channels we really gotta fix this) is "welcome back anytime" and this has always been a fucked up statement because it gives promise that you can just re-admin when nobody should be getting that promise. people and times change and it gives unnecessary pressure to headmins to re-admin some people who really were a product of their time. I'm only bringing this up because this was the real issue causing one of the "inactives that become active and cause drama" situations: a shitty person who was let back because of implicated re-adminning whenever. Unless brain worms is making me forget how it really happened :ugeek:
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Tlaltecuhtli » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:30 am #590273

your argument sounded right but then i saw you double posting, making it invalid

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby trollbreeder » Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:07 am #590274

new headmins after they get elected

guess which one is which
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Armhulen » Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:10 am #590275

Tlaltecuhtli wrote:your argument sounded right but then i saw you double posting, making it invalid

different trains of thought and if you make people read too much they won't read at all so it's more like an underhanded tactic for making people read what you say
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby TWATICUS » Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:43 am #590278

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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Naloac » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:56 am #590286

[quote="Armhulen"words"[/quote]

I currently do want to demote more people though. You saying "oh we're still talking about this". Is because I on my own cannot remove as much inactive people as much as id like to. The reason its not happened till RIGHT NOW is because atlantaneds admin part of the website to quickly see it was down and not fixed for a long time after asking so I had to get it myself. *because im literally running out of time to wait*

If you cannot put 5 hours into a volunteer position in 3 months then you shouldnt be getting to vote on the direction of the entire server. saying *solve it with a filter* doesnt do shit since we dont use a filter to filter them even though we should.

jumping around something that wasnt as much of an issue this term doesnt mean you shouldnt fix the issue. Having people stick around cos they wanna read the hot drama or talk to their friends is a real thing and just pretending that its not is stupid.
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Stickymayhem » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:58 am #590287

Naloac wrote:If you cannot put 5 hours into a volunteer position in 3 months then you shouldnt be getting to vote on the direction of the entire server. saying *solve it with a filter* doesnt do shit since we dont use a filter to filter them even though we should.


i love democracies where you're only allowed to vote based on extremely specific criteria dictated by the current power structure

that sounds like a great take from our democratically elected player headmin proud representative of the people and heroic populist lepi meowterror
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Re: official headmin election 13 pre-election thread

Postby Rohen_Tahir » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:12 am #590288

Stickymayhem wrote:
Naloac wrote:If you cannot put 5 hours into a volunteer position in 3 months then you shouldnt be getting to vote on the direction of the entire server. saying *solve it with a filter* doesnt do shit since we dont use a filter to filter them even though we should.


i love democracies where you're only allowed to vote based on extremely specific criteria dictated by the current power structure

that sounds like a great take from our democratically elected player headmin proud representative of the people and heroic populist lepi meowterror

The admin vote is oligarchic/technocratic/somethingalongtheselinesbutnotdecmocracy decision-making anyways.

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