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Opening the ism-can of worms is the best can of worms. This guy/girl? has talked about nothing else but this shitty point for 2 entire thread pages, and more is guaranteed to be on the way.

Personally, and that's just my opinion, the user interface, the complexity of the game, the steep learning curve to do well while still getting shitcanned over a single mistake and the coked-out powergamers that mow you down in seconds that also taunt you in your death, MAY be the more deciding factors why people just don't want to fucking play the game. Getting called nigger while all this is going on is merely the icing on the cake, but that's just my opinion man.

cacogen wrote:literally me

checking that thread i don't think he responded to my question about when with him as a headmin it would be appropriate to use slurs

Hey cacogen, I tried pinging you on the discord to say that it was going to be a moment before I could get back to you. A lot of people have questions and I'm trying my best to be fair and answer them in the order that they came in.

I really appreciate the questions that you're asking and I will absolutely be answering your latest ones soon. I can ping you on the discord or even DM you to let you know when I do, if that's what you'd like.

Sorry again for the delay.

Rohen_Tahir wrote:Politician refuses to answer question because doing so would hurt him, more news at 11.

Your is next, Rohen. I should have a response up some time today. Thanks for engaging my thread.

Rave relax man its chill. Its just some lazy spaceman game. It's not anything worth stressing over.

I'm expecting Naloac to get unseated - I'd be amazed if a player vote stayed consistent.

Admin vote might keep coconut might jump ship. Math suggests Rave has much more "energy" interested in his campaign.

I'm expecting goof/sihk/sticky to lose due to voter confidence problems.

Morto and Florran the "no changes" will fail to drum up any excitement.

How do I officially get in the running

BONERMASTER wrote:Opening the ism-can of worms is the best can of worms. This guy/girl? has talked about nothing else but this shitty point for 2 entire thread pages, and more is guaranteed to be on the way.

Personally, and that's just my opinion, the user interface, the complexity of the game, the steep learning curve to do well while still getting shitcanned over a single mistake and the coked-out powergamers that mow you down in seconds that also taunt you in your death, MAY be the more deciding factors why people just don't want to fucking play the game. Getting called nigger while all this is going on is merely the icing on the cake, but that's just my opinion man.

it's you retards who are jumping down his throat, honestly it would have passed un noticed otherwise

oh god he's awake

fuck you man

typical toxic 2014 player

lmao I'm surprised it took him that long to I'm assuming ban your ass from the election forum.

Let My People Go, Pharaoh!

Let The Player Peasants Go Free From This INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS Tower Tyranny

oranges wrote:it's you retards who are jumping down his throat, honestly it would have passed un noticed otherwise

I can't believe that ableist slurs are still being used in 2021, and I would prefer it if you/(preferred pronoun) stop before I start crying and shaking.

Calling it now, Rave wins the player vote, and Coconut the admin vote.

XivilaiAnaxes wrote:Math suggests Rave has much more "energy" interested in his campaign.

You know the phrase "there's no such thing as bad publicity"?
That's true but maybe not in the way you think it is.

Horza wrote:

XivilaiAnaxes wrote:Math suggests Rave has much more "energy" interested in his campaign.

You know the phrase "there's no such thing as bad publicity"?
That's true but maybe not in the way you think it is.

Worked for Trump *shrug*

BONERMASTER wrote:

oranges wrote:it's you retards who are jumping down his throat, honestly it would have passed un noticed otherwise

I can't believe that ableist slurs are still being used in 2021, and I would prefer it if you/(preferred pronoun) stop before I start crying and shaking.

good

Stickymayhem wrote:Also just for me can you answer this question in the non political speak it gives me the heebie jeebies i get it and it doesn't make you bad it just spooks me thank you Rave.

Yes thank you Sticky, for once I agree with you and your opinion.
Every time I see a Rave post it makes my skin crawl because it's 110% politician speech and I subconsciously wonder just how high my income tax will be next year.

I'm expecting RiskySikh to get a supermajority that allows him to oust the other headmins and occupy all three slots himself.

I wrote that at the end of page 8 thinking it was the last page but nothing meaningful happened this page so it's fine.

Horza wrote:

Stickymayhem wrote:Also just for me can you answer this question in the non political speak it gives me the heebie jeebies i get it and it doesn't make you bad it just spooks me thank you Rave.

Yes thank you Sticky, for once I agree with you and your opinion.
Every time I see a Rave post it makes my skin crawl because it's 110% politician speech and I subconsciously wonder just how high my income tax will be next year.

That's his normal writing (and speaking) voice.

XivilaiAnaxes wrote:

Horza wrote:

XivilaiAnaxes wrote:Math suggests Rave has much more "energy" interested in his campaign.

You know the phrase "there's no such thing as bad publicity"?
That's true but maybe not in the way you think it is.

Worked for Trump *shrug*

Strong sargon energy

Mad Beepsky wrote:FUCK YOUR CUNT YOU SHIT EATING COCKSTORM AND EAT A DONG FUCKING ASS RAMMING SHIT FUCK EAT PENISES IN YOUR FUCK FACE AND SHIT OUT ABORTIONS OF FUCK AND POO AND SHIT IN YOUR ASS YOU COCK FUCK SHIT MONKEY FUCK ASS WANKER FROM THE DEPTHS OF SHIT.

Alright, let's dissect this bigotry and blatant display of toxicity by Beepsky.

FUCK YOUR CUNT

Rape

YOU SHIT EATING COCKSTORM

Kinkshaming and species blaming

AND EAT A DONG FUCKING ASS RAMMING SHIT FUCK EAT PENISES IN YOUR FUCK FACE

Homophobe

AND SHIT OUT ABORTIONS

Anti ass abortion

AND POO

Potty language is not allowed on tg. It severely disturbs me that this is even in the game. Who would ever code anything to say that?!

POO AND SHIT IN YOUR ASS YOU COCK FUCK SHIT MONKEY

Kinkshaming and species blaming

FUCK ASS WANKER

Australians.

FROM THE DEPTHS OF SHIT.

Homecist.

As you see, Beepsky should have been canceled a long time ago.

This anti-toxicity/normie appeal thing Rave somehow recognised the value in has an insidious hold over people. It's not going to attract normal people, it's going to attract furries and other freaks. We're already in a good place where abusing people isn't allowed but you're still allowed to say what you think and use the words you see fit.

Stickymayhem, in RaveRadbury's candidate thread wrote:I don't know if you play much Terry, but frankly there's a proud culture of toxicity there, embedded in how a significant proportion of the community play the game there. I'm talking extremely toxic IC behaviour and conduct which isn't against the rules but makes the server unappealling to normies.

Attempting to purge the server of some vague idea of toxicity isn't going to be good for /tg/station as a whole.

cacogen wrote:This anti-toxicity/normie appeal thing Rave somehow recognised the value in has an insidious hold over people. It's not going to attract normal people, it's going to attract furries and other freaks. We're already in a good place where abusing people isn't allowed but you're still allowed to say what you think and use the words you see fit.

Stickymayhem, in RaveRadbury's candidate thread wrote:I don't know if you play much Terry, but frankly there's a proud culture of toxicity there, embedded in how a significant proportion of the community play the game there. I'm talking extremely toxic IC behaviour and conduct which isn't against the rules but makes the server unappealling to normies.

Attempting to purge the server of some vague idea of toxicity isn't going to be good for /tg/station as a whole.

at first i was iffy about rave, but now i'm all in for rave. they're getting my #1 vote for sure.

CoffeeDragon16, in RaveRadbury's candidate thread wrote:I think Rave's platform on making SS13 less of a... well, cringe thing speaks to me.

It's ironic because the people Rave wants to pave the way for to take over are the cringe.

I agree with cacogen, I disagree with rule 11 being made a secret word filter but I agree with rave being a good choice

I guess my overall point is that although I am not an ESL, rough Australian or red state teenager they are essential antibodies against this place being taken over by bizarre creatures.

take the mask off cacogen, I bet you voted billy te kahia

cacogen wrote:I guess my overall point is that although I am not an ESL, rough Australian or red state teenager they are essential antibodies against this place being taken over by bizarre creatures.

The only thing they fear is you.

I don't watch TV or keep up with the news that well so I had to Google who that was. I haven't voted in like 8 years but I would've voted Green. Anyway, your suspicions about my political tendencies just because I don't perfectly toe the line on dogmatic liberal identity politics are unfounded. I'm not a bigot, if that's what you're getting at. Thankfully being a furry isn't an identity, it's a self-defeating subculture you can opt out of at any time. I don't hate furries either, I just don't want to deal with that shit or see this place overrun with those sorts of people. Hopefully my fears are unjustified. If it just made people nicer and more tolerant, that would be a good thing.

The people who I described, who I imagine are some of the types of people who play on Terry, are already kept in line by the existing rules. To remove them entirely would result in the server becoming very gay.

unfounded he said

being able to say the n word stopping furries taking over tgstation might be the most thermonuclear take I have ever seen

That's a strawman but I'm glad you think so

Why do people want to say slurs so bad lol, if not allowing you to say slurs makes you not want to play the game, rethink your priorities then fuck off maybe.

Im gonna say it

Cacogen run for headmin

man if what cacogen was saying had any amount of truth to it i would be jumping up and down with joy.

also saying the equivalent of "im ignorant and live under a rock" does not make you sound as smart as you think it does

vkalls wrote:Why do people want to say slurs so bad lol, if not allowing you to say slurs makes you not want to play the game, rethink your priorities then fuck off maybe.

I just don't agree with imposing more restrictions on an established community's language man if they're gonna do it then whatever but I'd prefer alternatives like player-sided chat filters.

Such a thing already exists, in fact it's config

That's server-sided innit
I mean filters that players themselves can apply

Malkraz wrote:That's server-sided innit
I mean filters that players themselves can apply

I'd like to hear how this would work IC.

Armhulen wrote:I'd like to hear how this would work IC.

All Nanotrasen employees come installed with a SeffSpess™ brain implant, which inhibits processing of auditory or visual stimuli with negative associations. So they hear the word but can't understand it. They see a cat wit no undies moving, but just can't comprehend what it is. Due to relying on the negative associations and relevant brain areas flaring up the actual things being scrambled vary from person to person. In a perfect world all employees would be unable to recognize a death squad until it's too late. Or an esword for that matter.

To stay on topic, I have no strong feelings one way or the other, vast majority of candidates seem the kind of people who are willing to and can put in the effort needed to do headmin stuff.

Armhulen wrote:

Malkraz wrote:That's server-sided innit
I mean filters that players themselves can apply

I'd like to hear how this would work IC.

I realized the chat over your head might be an issue, but wouldn't doing it in the chatbox be fairly similar to highlighting? Just identify words and it turns them into ****

Malkraz wrote:

Armhulen wrote:

Malkraz wrote:That's server-sided innit
I mean filters that players themselves can apply

I'd like to hear how this would work IC.

I realized the chat over your head might be an issue, but wouldn't doing it in the chatbox be fairly similar to highlighting? Just identify words and it turns them into ****

Code it

yes

I cant believe some joyless shitpail wants to get rid of the beepsky swear voice. it's not offensive to anyone its just a stream of swear words.

WineAllWine wrote:it's not offensive to anyone

lol

iwishforducks wrote:man if what cacogen was saying had any amount of truth to it i would be jumping up and down with joy.

also saying the equivalent of "im ignorant and live under a rock" does not make you sound as smart as you think it does

So you can't stop being a furry but you want to? I'd recommend getting help from a mental health professional.

cacogen wrote:

CoffeeDragon16, in RaveRadbury's candidate thread wrote:I think Rave's platform on making SS13 less of a... well, cringe thing speaks to me.

It's ironic because the people Rave wants to pave the way for to take over are the cringe.

We have actual unironic nazis, people who seriously identify as such, in our community.
Take a peek at the politics channel.
Your slippery slope would be funny, were it not for the sad state of current affairs.
As a community we are very welcoming to very unwelcoming types.
You talk about the risk of welcoming the cringe of certain social outcast groups, but we already harbor even worse ones.

I really hope Rave and Sticky win playervote and adminvote, and turn up inclusiveness, friendliness, happiness, manuelness and all other -esses to maximum. As a matter of fact I hope TGstation becomes fiery blazing sun of goodness, instantly glassing all toxicity within lightyear range. Gravity of these two's sheer charisma will attract such tides of friends that these mere thousands of people that came here with Ssethtide will seem like grain of sand in the desert.
Not like I got anything to lose, so I do actually count on that.

>We have actual unironic nazis, people who seriously identify as such, in our community.
>Take a peek at the politics channel.

do these people even play the game? i havent seen anyone talking about restoring the german nationalist party in ooc

Rohesie wrote: We have actual unironic nazis, people who seriously identify as such, in our community.

And that's a good thing!

BONERMASTER wrote:

Rohesie wrote: We have actual unironic nazis, people who seriously identify as such, in our community.

And that's a good thing!

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Tlaltecuhtli wrote:>We have actual unironic nazis, people who seriously identify as such, in our community.
>Take a peek at the politics channel.

do these people even play the game? i havent seen anyone talking about restoring the german nationalist party in ooc

They mostly just spew bigotry in discord and in-game (rule 11 has helped removing some of the most obvious ones, but not everyone of them), and tend to be the ones that defend keeping the slurs the most.
One could argue the slurs are not bigotry, they're just some set of neutral terms that don't carry any of the initial connotation, but then you look at who are the frequent users and have a chat with them on their worldview thoughts and you see the theory falls apart quickly.
The same argument on freedom of expression used to defend bigotry could be used to defend erotic content. And in both cases it falls flat for the same reason.

Rohesie wrote:

Tlaltecuhtli wrote:>We have actual unironic nazis, people who seriously identify as such, in our community.
>Take a peek at the politics channel.

do these people even play the game? i havent seen anyone talking about restoring the german nationalist party in ooc

They mostly just spew bigotry in discord and in-game (rule 11 has helped removing some of the most obvious ones, but not everyone of them), and tend to be the ones that defend keeping the slurs the most.
One could argue the slurs are not bigotry, they're just some set of neutral terms that don't carry any of the initial connotation, but then you look at who are the frequent users and have a chat with them on their worldview thoughts and you see the theory falls apart quickly.
The same argument on freedom of expression used to defend bigotry could be used to defend erotic content. And in both cases it falls flat for the same reason.

vore time