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Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:20 pm
by BONERMASTER
You said you wanted to bring it back. But I don't see a hut yet. What's going on here? What's the hiccup? Where are we having some complications?



with love

BONERMASTER

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:18 pm
by Jonathan Gupta
BONERMASTER wrote:You said you wanted to bring it back. But I don't see a hut yet. What's going on here? What's the hiccup? Where are we having some complications?



with love

BONERMASTER
Based, I'm sure he is taking his time to get it ready!

With love!

-Jonathan J Gupta!

(things take time be patient brother!!!)

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:25 pm
by Coconutwarrior97
this is like the bottom of my list as far as priorities go

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:34 pm
by Jonathan Gupta
Coconutwarrior97 wrote:this is like the bottom of my list as far as priorities go
admemes are the biggest clowns.



With the saltyness of a fluked nukie


- Jonathan J Gupta

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:47 pm
by BONERMASTER
Coconutwarrior97 wrote:this is like the bottom of my list as far as priorities go
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with warm regards

BONERMASTER

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:32 am
by cacogen
the hut has colonised general chat be grateful imperialist

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:19 pm
by Rohen_Tahir
Coconutwarrior97 wrote:this is like the bottom of my list as far as priorities go
Headadmin too occupied with important and urgent serious business to fix everything with one simple trick.

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:40 pm
by Nabski
gib hut

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:57 pm
by cacogen
The shitpost threads go to General Chat now I still don't understand why you want the Hut back. MSO could add it back in ~300ds clearly he does not want it. What is the headmins' role in deciding which boards there are anyway I'm assuming they have to bargain with him

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:32 pm
by BONERMASTER
just bring it back holy fuck.

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:37 pm
by cacogen
You posted this Hut thread in General Chat and it's still here the footprint of the Hut has only moved

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:43 pm
by Rohen_Tahir
If you post a thread with an unclickable title in generaƂ chat it will be deleted. 1984 was a warning!

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:13 am
by XivilaiAnaxes
Coconutwarrior97 wrote:this is like the bottom of my list as far as priorities go
just found the bottom of my vote list :x

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:17 pm
by capn_monkeypaw
Fuck the hut. We're much better off without it.

Let it go, dude.

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:27 pm
by Rohen_Tahir
capn_monkeypaw wrote:Fuck the hut. We're much better off without it.

Let it go, dude.
:x

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:57 pm
by BONERMASTER
Who is we? What adverse effect does the hut have on them? Do you believe to have personal bias against the hut with your 82 post participation to get it killed (tied for the highest post count jannie with beesting)?

I would be very happy to review your case!


With warm regards

BONERMASTER

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:49 pm
by BeeSting12
My greatest legacy to /tg/station tbh. Still makes people salty to this day.

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:19 pm
by Armhulen
You didn't vote me up, you didn't get the hut? Get mad but don't get surprised bitches.

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:07 pm
by capn_monkeypaw
BONERMASTER wrote:Who is we? What adverse effect does the hut have on them? Do you believe to have personal bias against the hut with your 82 post participation to get it killed (tied for the highest post count jannie with beesting)?

I would be very happy to review your case!


With warm regards

BONERMASTER
The hut's "down the memory hole it goes" configuration fostered an environment in which its most vocal members strived to be as shitty and hurtful as possible when interacting with each other.

It got worse over time. It caused more harm than good. Its time has passed.

I don't understand why you won't let go of it.

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:43 pm
by BONERMASTER
Your argument is then, that the hut is a shitty place where everyone is being a massive toxic dickhead to everyone else.

Very curios, because I cannot recall this being my experience. In my experience, the hut was a place where you'd post whatever came up in your mind, engaged in short lived topics, that you otherwise wouldn't bother to post, with a tone that is no different than it is here today.

I do recall though a few instances of reactionary topics that criticized admin behavior, where certain individual's temper flared up considerably. Perhaps this belief of toxicity stems from these topics criticizing you? Nevertheless, you did make it out alive, so it is only fair to call you a survivor. I, for one, am more interested in cultured discussion than talking about transgender admins, so I would consider it acceptable to have the hut be lightly moderated to protect admin's feelings, as I place more importance on active discussion than insubstantial slander.
Would you find this acceptable, survivor monkeypaw?


With warm regards

BONERMASTER

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:19 pm
by Armhulen
Hut wasn't deleted for no reason, you know. If it is gonna come back it definitely needs a few changes

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:39 pm
by oranges
BONERMASTER wrote:Very curios, because I cannot recall this being my experience
that's because you were one of them

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:41 pm
by BONERMASTER
oranges wrote:
BONERMASTER wrote:Very curios, because I cannot recall this being my experience
that's because you were one of them
I do admit that at times, I let the fever get the best of me and may have made some comments that I regret. I may have been one, but I was not alone. I recall certain admins seemingly instigating heated conversations, provoking possibly, the average user of the hut. And as my age grows, so does my wisdom, and I have come to value free but fair discussion, and not the inception of a vocal lynchmob. Perhaps it would mitigate a considerable amount of inflammatory statements and venomous behavior, if we established some sort of ruleset that counts for all userclasses.


With best regards

BONERMASTER

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:53 pm
by oranges
somehow I doubt that, nice whataboutism though

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:17 pm
by terranaut
Armhulen wrote:Hut wasn't deleted for no reason, you know. If it is gonna come back it definitely needs a few changes
the hut was deleted because a thread mso made got 1000 replies.

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:07 am
by cacogen
Oh so MSO may have gotten rid of it (with that masterstroke of having its own users unwittingly vote for its annihilation) because it was like singulo.io in terms of some of its unkind content and erection specialist wants it back because of its imageboard-like ephemerality good to know

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:20 am
by BONERMASTER
cacogen wrote:Oh so MSO may have gotten rid of it (with that masterstroke of having its own users unwittingly vote for its annihilation) because it was like singulo.io in terms of some of its unkind content and erection specialist wants it back because of its imageboard-like ephemerality good to know
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 52&t=28594
Stickymayhem wrote:I'd support the hut coming back. I think many of the problems with it are mostly now covered by the bigotry rules.

I'm happy for peanut threads to continue to exist in off topic too but frankly I think impermenance is a better way of handling them. Appeals and complaints are discussed temporarily before being resolved and the Hut worked well for that.
Armhulen wrote:I made the hut- it fell into dark times but how based would it be if I made it again

edit: wait I was thinking of the admin free hut which def gets a lot less love but hey I'd still consider the hut a possibly hopeful prospect
Bytube wrote:The hut was based. I'd like to have it back in some form or another.
Timberpoes wrote:Shitposts go in the hut.

If there is no hut, where do all the shitposts go?

I rest my case.
Naolac wrote:bring it back
Coconutwarrior97 wrote:I'd support its return, with the caveat of it being moderated.
RaveRadbury wrote:On the one hand, the hut had some pretty toxic and bad moments.

On the other hand, things disappeared, and that made for less toxicity in the long run.

Things have changed since the hut was shelved, I think it's worth trying again.
Dezupher wrote:I'd support its return moderated while considering the problems the Hut created in the past.
RiskySikh wrote:bring that shit back bro, free my boy deedubya on god
NamelessFairy wrote:The hut is before my time so I don't think I'd be suited for bringing about its return but based on whats been described it sounds like a fun concept that I'd be happy to see return if possible.

Thank you for your post cacogen.


With loving regards

Erection Specialist

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:51 am
by capn_monkeypaw

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:06 am
by cacogen
Oh yeah, I forgot that we had Off Topic and that General Chat is for general SS13 chat. That's what I meant when I suggested using General Chat in lieu of the hut earlier in this thread. But it doesn't suit his purposes.
BONERMASTER wrote:The hut had a novel thing going for it, that I absolutely miss. Threads on a timer, an always active board that allowed you to post some dumb shit for a quick laugh and then forget about it a few days later. In my opinion, it neatly fills the place between a fast-paced discord server and the slow-paced forums.
I guarantee this would be good for the health of the forum.

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:15 pm
by BONERMASTER
cacogen wrote:
Did I fucking grief your catgirl main in a past life, or why are you suddenly up in here in this thread and shooting me with sidewinders like "oh look fucking PENIS man over here trying to get his stupid little hut back" and now this shit?

I can understand when jannies get hairs on their back and start conjuring up fever dreams when they hear hut, because critcism to them is like sunlight to vampires, and they all remember deedubz constantly attempting to uncover their furry shadow cabal in every major peanut.
But when you as a normal user walk up to me and suddenly start being their boot by saying crap like "it's not good for forum health" and "toxic image board culture" my understanding just ends. If you signed up 10 minutes ago, I could chalk it up to not knowing better, maybe your name is Stacy IRL and your hipster friend told you about this weird game that Brad plays, but you signed up 2018, 2 years before the hut got dusted, so with the current state of science, I simply cannot comprehend this.

If you just want to get your jannie application approved, mald over the hut in their private discord server. Otherwise, make a normal argument (that's thesis + evidence) on why you think the hut should not be brought back, and leave the admin catering at the door, I would appreciate that.

Or preferably go with option 3, remove the jannie chip that's buried inside your skull, remember the identity they have stolen from you, and remember the hut they have stolen from us. Your choice.


With grateful regards

BONERMASTER

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:04 pm
by Jonathan Gupta
BONERMASTER wrote:
cacogen wrote:
Did I fucking grief your catgirl main in a past life, or why are you suddenly up in here in this thread and shooting me with sidewinders like "oh look fucking PENIS man over here trying to get his stupid little hut back" and now this shit?

I can understand when jannies get hairs on their back and start conjuring up fever dreams when they hear hut, because critcism to them is like sunlight to vampires, and they all remember deedubz constantly attempting to uncover their furry shadow cabal in every major peanut.
But when you as a normal user walk up to me and suddenly start being their boot by saying crap like "it's not good for forum health" and "toxic image board culture" my understanding just ends. If you signed up 10 minutes ago, I could chalk it up to not knowing better, maybe your name is Stacy IRL and your hipster friend told you about this weird game that Brad plays, but you signed up 2018, 2 years before the hut got dusted, so with the current state of science, I simply cannot comprehend this.

If you just want to get your jannie application approved, mald over the hut in their private discord server. Otherwise, make a normal argument (that's thesis + evidence) on why you think the hut should not be brought back, and leave the admin catering at the door, I would appreciate that.

Or preferably go with option 3, remove the jannie chip that's buried inside your skull, remember the identity they have stolen from you, and remember the hut they have stolen from us. Your choice.


With grateful regards

BONERMASTER
Personally, I roam image boards a lot the hut sounded like image board as a whole while not being the discord, It sounds perfect the hatermins don't have shit on you my friend!

With love of plenty

- Jonathan J Gupta

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:48 am
by cacogen
At first I didn't understand the need for the Hut to return. Surely it's better to just be able to shitpost in Off Topic. But when Urologist explained the difference to me I understood the desire for its return, one I now share. When I said I guaranteed it would be good for the health of the forum, I wasn't joking. It would contain the shitposts and encourage people to post who normally wouldn't.

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:25 am
by BONERMASTER
Glad you ripped that chip out of your head. See, if you are not under the influence of a mind-controlling jannie, the only answer quickly becomes obvious.


With free-thinking regards

BONERMASTER


P.S.: The Stone Man has met the head admin's abuse of the #announcments channel with an edict: If the fair people of /tg/Station upvote his post to at least 420 votes, the head admins will be forever banished from this channel. As of today, 562 defenders of the people have answered his call. Cheers.

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:27 am
by Rohen_Tahir
cacogen wrote:Oh so MSO may have gotten rid of it (with that masterstroke of having its own users unwittingly vote for its annihilation) because it was like singulo.io in terms of some of its unkind content and erection specialist wants it back because of its imageboard-like ephemerality good to know
Cacogen you have alzchemiems https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=26645

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:14 pm
by IkeTG
BONERMASTER wrote:Your argument is then, that the hut is a shitty place where everyone is being a massive toxic dickhead to everyone else.

Very curios, because I cannot recall this being my experience. In my experience, the hut was a place where you'd post whatever came up in your mind, engaged in short lived topics, that you otherwise wouldn't bother to post, with a tone that is no different than it is here today.

I do recall though a few instances of reactionary topics that criticized admin behavior, where certain individual's temper flared up considerably. Perhaps this belief of toxicity stems from these topics criticizing you? Nevertheless, you did make it out alive, so it is only fair to call you a survivor. I, for one, am more interested in cultured discussion than talking about transgender admins, so I would consider it acceptable to have the hut be lightly moderated to protect admin's feelings, as I place more importance on active discussion than insubstantial slander.
Would you find this acceptable, survivor monkeypaw?


With warm regards

BONERMASTER
actually the hut was bad because it was only low effort peanut posts. i posted a lot in the thread that killed it because im not actually sapient

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:35 am
by Swept
Coconutwarrior97 wrote:this is like the bottom of my list as far as priorities go
Oooohh busy jannie jannie with a lot on his plate

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:47 am
by cacogen
Rohen_Tahir wrote:
cacogen wrote:Oh so MSO may have gotten rid of it (with that masterstroke of having its own users unwittingly vote for its annihilation) because it was like singulo.io in terms of some of its unkind content and erection specialist wants it back because of its imageboard-like ephemerality good to know
Cacogen you have alzchemiems https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=26645
Yeah, I contributed to its death. None of us knew he would actually do it, or what a post-hut forum would look like. Only now do I understand what we've lost. And why MSO may have wanted to remove it in the first place. I was only on the forum towards the end of the hut and the details of how it worked were never clear to me. Bonermaster explained them. At last I truly see.

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:19 pm
by oranges
>none of us knew
speak for yourself

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:10 pm
by BeeSting12
oranges wrote:>none of us knew
speak for yourself

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:04 am
by Ayy Lemoh
Excluding any toxic elements, the main reason to think the hut was good back then was because it was basically just discord but on a forum.

Seriously, besides peanut threads or shitting on people, that's basically what it was.

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:43 pm
by cacogen
Well, I didn't know MSO wanted to remove the hut. Or how fucking boring the forum would be without it. It just seemed like a meme thread to me, one where he may or may not go through with it. And the hut seemed like a pointless shithole (not unlike singulo.io). I assume you'd have to spend time in Discord to know people's agendas like that. Anyway, while I now believe the people with the ability to restore the hut won't do it anytime soon I do think it's important we bring back a sanitised version that respects everybody's feelings in order to contain the shitposts and stimulate the forum with physical activity. I guarantee that this will be good for its health.

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:47 pm
by Rohen_Tahir
cacogen wrote:Well, I didn't know MSO wanted to remove the hut. Or how fucking boring the forum would be without it. It just seemed like a meme thread to me, one where he may or may not go through with it. And the hut seemed like a pointless shithole (not unlike singulo.io). I assume you'd have to spend time in Discord to know people's agendas like that. Anyway, while I now believe the people with the ability to restore the hut won't do it anytime soon I do think it's important we bring back a sanitised version that respects everybody's feelings in order to contain the shitposts and stimulate the forum with physical activity. I guarantee that this will be good for its health.
Rule -1 of tgstation: If someone in a position of power promises something, the promise is legit no matter what.

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:53 am
by oranges
if mso says he'll do something when x condition is met he will usually do it


I don't know of any situations where he's said he'll do something and then not followed through

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:59 pm
by actioninja
Ayy Lemoh wrote:Excluding any toxic elements, the main reason to think the hut was good back then was because it was basically just discord but on a forum.

Seriously, besides peanut threads or shitting on people, that's basically what it was.
Then just use discord

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:42 am
by Jonathan Gupta
actioninja wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:Excluding any toxic elements, the main reason to think the hut was good back then was because it was basically just discord but on a forum.

Seriously, besides peanut threads or shitting on people, that's basically what it was.
Then just use discord
discord too fast!!

being slow

Jonathan J Gupta

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:01 am
by Ayy Lemoh
actioninja wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:Excluding any toxic elements, the main reason to think the hut was good back then was because it was basically just discord but on a forum.

Seriously, besides peanut threads or shitting on people, that's basically what it was.
Then just use discord
BONERMASTER might be an IRC kind of guy.

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:09 am
by BONERMASTER
actioninja wrote:Then just use discord
Discord has it's advantages, but it also has it's drawbacks. The conversations are ultra fast paced, you leave the conversation for 10 minutes, you have no clue what is going on anymore. Somebody drops a one line mention over anything, and if you are not there to catch it, you're locked out of the conversation because you don't know what the hell they're talking about.

I'll say it again, the hut was a nice intermediate between a forum and discord, and that's because the hut was active and fast enough that you could just drop whatever you were thinking about in there and get something going, but it wouldn't get drowned out into the shadowrealm like in discord. It's also easier to follow a discussion there, because the forum is suited for that, we get multiple threads up, you can jump straight to the first unread post. Discord, anything that you have to scroll up for in that (relatively) small window, is pretty much dead.
When everyone said their piece, the thread disappears and doesn't clutter the hut, so it's always active and relevant threads that stay up, which in turn encourages posting in there. It's combining the best aspects of discord and the forum, I enjoyed that, and that's why I want it back.

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:25 pm
by RaveRadbury
There are peanut threads that exist now on the main forums and it really seems like they would be better off fading away.

If you look at our FNR resolved appeals they look pretty alright and okay, that's because all the salt was buried in a thread that died in the hut. Now the salt just stays out in the open.

Peanut threads are better off disappearing eventually.

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:16 pm
by Swept
RaveRadbury wrote:There are peanut threads that exist now on the main forums and it really seems like they would be better off fading away.

If you look at our FNR resolved appeals they look pretty alright and okay, that's because all the salt was buried in a thread that died in the hut. Now the salt just stays out in the open.

Peanut threads are better off disappearing eventually.
Peanut threads are the only reason I use the forums. That and the hut.

Re: Open letter to freshly elected head admins of TG station: Hut

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:38 pm
by Rohen_Tahir
Swept wrote:
RaveRadbury wrote:There are peanut threads that exist now on the main forums and it really seems like they would be better off fading away.

If you look at our FNR resolved appeals they look pretty alright and okay, that's because all the salt was buried in a thread that died in the hut. Now the salt just stays out in the open.

Peanut threads are better off disappearing eventually.
Peanut threads are the only reason I use the forums. That and the hut.
Thanks for the info Swept.