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/tg/station Gameshow: The Robust and Robusted

Post by CitrusGender » #600651

CCONGRATULATIONS TO LOLA VOLVER FOR WINNING THE TOURNAMENT!!!!!!!!








Expected event date: Sunday, June 27th, 2021 at 4PM EST (9PM GMT+1, 1PM PST)
Expected location: Event Hall Server

GOOGLE DOC BELOW, PLEASE NOTE THAT WE'VE HIT 64 CONTESTANTS SO GETTING SLOTTED IN IS NOT GUARANTEED IF YOU SIGN UP NOW.

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There exists many people who claim to be the most robust in all of SS13, though it's all talk.
But what if, what if we could get them all together to compete to find the most robust of them all?
The strongest, the most charismatic, the quickest, the most versatile, and the bravest...
All in one place to compete a series of unfair challenges that don't reward any of those things!
GAMESHOW

Hello friends! It's been a good bit of time but I'm happy to announce that we've got one more great event that we're hoping to put together for all of you. Similar to the Toolbox tournament, I wanted to put on another type of spectacle type of event that we will be showing on Twitch. We have some very talented people on our staff this time and I have extremely high expectations that we'll be able to do something fun and interesting for /tg/! But even then, we want to give everyone in /tg/ a chance to be a part of the process and have a chance to show up on our stream. We're inviting all people out there who are interested in taking part in our /tg/station gameshow. I hope this can serve as an interesting event and give everyone the chance to compete, even if you can't form a team or whatever like the toolbox tournaments.

I'm hoping to host the show on Twitch, similar to the toolbox tournament, and commentate on it while it's going on. I'm thinking that this will probably be the last event that I'll be hosting so I'm hoping to make the most out of all of it. I've had a wonderful time organizing all of these events for /tg/ and all the wonderful people who have helped out with it. So with that, please read on if you are interested in helping out this event or competing!


GAMESHOW FORMAT

Similarly to the toolbox tournament, people will be able to enter into the tournament (via google-doc this time) and be considered to join the show. We're looking to have 64 contestants so please be on the lookout for the google doc when it comes out. There will be a mixture of games that will test your ability as an ss13 player ranging from fighting, knowledge of gameplay, overall charisma, and just how lucky you are. At the start, the 64 contestants will be thinned out via a battle royale style game to about 16 who will then be eliminated individually with a variety of different challenges. These challenges can range from things that you've encountered throughout your time on /tg/station to just completely random shit that we come up with. The possibilities are endless and just know this is not fair, it will never be fair. You may get shot in the face by me but hey it will show up an epic twitch clip or something. Still, I ensure you that those who make it the most fun for everyone will be rewarded the most. Once there is one last person standing, that person will be rewarded! I'm thinking about giving out a $100 dollar gift card I got from my work recently, this one can go to a large large variety of stores so we can work that out at the end.

Rules
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  1. Try to have fun! This will not be fair at all, I am going to warn you now. You will likely die during the competition (there are 64 people) and lose, which is a part of the game.
  2. Participants MUST not use any performance-enhancing chemical reagents during the show (No Ephedrine, Meth, etc.) Any players found violating this will be AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFIED
  3. Participants are NOT allowed to TEAM UP WITH OTHER Participants. Any attempts to team-up outside of the game will be met with DISQUALIFICATION. Having friends is okay, but please do not gang up on people!
  4. There is no guarantee you will be able to get into the server depending number amount of people going to the event. If you have signed up, you should be there early.
  5. If you have any questions, please message me directly on discord. You can see my name directly on the list in the main discord server (CitrusGender, GameMaster rank).
Forewarning

I highly expect things to break. We have amazing staff and we have amazing people working on this project, but I will tell you directly right now that I have accidentally crashed an entire event before by making blackjack bots that didn't understand there was no table underneath them. Just be aware that improvision is an amazing skill to have and I appreciate all the hard work of everyone!

Additionally, we have some problems with the last event and having it completely open to the public. We will try to make it so that we can get 200+ people but there is some potential that it may not be possible. Please just keep this in mind during the event. We'll make sure to stream it over twitch to ensure that everyone is able to see it.

Needed help:
ADMIN ONLY POSITIONS:
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Facilitator
We will likely require 2-3 admins to be in charge of making sure the gameshow goes smoothly and can ensure that we reach the end of the show. Be aware that there is always a high probability
  • Teleporting participants, managing the current challenge as it's going on.
  • Managing disqualifications and people dying. Most of the time, people who are killed will be disqualified (but it may depend on how funny the death is)
  • Managing the overall performance of the show, ranging from interesting challenges/side events to just making sure the server doesn't die
  • Handling misc requests
On duty admin
Any admin can apply for this and any amount is acceptable. There will likely be griefing and people who cause problems, so we'd just like some people to be on duty to handle ahelps.

DJ
yeah sure why not (ONLY ONE ADMIN PLEASE)
also I'll give you shit FOR PICKING THE EASIEST ROLE
NO ADMINSHIP REQUIRED POSITIONS
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CODER

We will definitely be needing coders for this event! This will be an extremely code driven event and will rely upon the knowledge of DM code to ensure that it gets to completion. The more you know, the better. This would be absolutely the most important part of this and if you are interested in helping out on the most essential element, please please please reach out to me!

MAPPER
For each one of the challenges, we will be bringing them in via holodeck. If you are interested in making the set-up for the challenges (likely no coding required, though it helps!) this would be the job for you. We have extremely talent mapper staff in the event staff so we always appreciate a few extra hands.
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Re: The Robust and Robusted: /tg/station Gameshow

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I'd like to buy a vowel
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how much would it cost to bribe you to let me use performance enhancing drugs
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I could help with custom sprites if needed.
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BorisvcBorison wrote:how much would it cost to bribe you to let me use performance enhancing drugs
at least a few billion dollars
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Post by Kokonut » #600659

how many gbp do i have to pay to bribe an admin to give me build mode so i can surround the other competitors in rwalls and win

i could help with turf or item sprites
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Do you expect to get 64 competitors when we didn't even get that much in the last tournament? I mean Yea you don't have to Form a team but still
joooks wrote:
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
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Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.


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Post by Timonk » #600676

Also what if we did this event on a Saturday instead? We could get more players because there aren't as much people working on a Sunday VS working on a monday
joooks wrote:
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.


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Kokonut wrote:how many gbp do i have to pay to bribe an admin to give me build mode so i can surround the other competitors in rwalls and win

i could help with turf or item sprites
GBP is a fiat currency my friend, the issue jannies have KOS orders on people caught trying to transfer it
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Post by CitrusGender » #600728

Timonk wrote:Do you expect to get 64 competitors when we didn't even get that much in the last tournament? I mean Yea you don't have to Form a team but still
28 teams, 3 people per team

3 x 28 = 84
Timonk wrote:Also what if we did this event on a Saturday instead? We could get more players because there aren't as much people working on a Sunday VS working on a monday
saturdays don't work that great for me personally
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CitrusGender wrote:
Timonk wrote:Do you expect to get 64 competitors when we didn't even get that much in the last tournament? I mean Yea you don't have to Form a team but still
28 teams, 3 people per team

3 x 28 = 84
i was guessing, sorry
joooks wrote:
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.


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Post by saprasam » #600750

maybe i’ll join
won’t even get any preprep to get my skill back i’m just gonna go in and die
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Post by Aeri » #600795

Sounds fun, I didn't enter the toolbox one because I can't fight for shit in this game.
Tell your local headmins to abolish ENFORCE_HUMAN_AUTHORITY, humans are fucking boring. Allow plasmeme CE, Lizard HOS, etc!
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Aeri wrote:Sounds fun, I didn't enter the toolbox one because I can't fight for shit in this game.
run around, play osu day and night be annoying, bound laugh clap flip to one key to taunt the enemy add spin on another key and say kekw on copy and paste get shoved(1-second stun)your fucked gg.
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Can I compete as a clown, this is important.
Tell your local headmins to abolish ENFORCE_HUMAN_AUTHORITY, humans are fucking boring. Allow plasmeme CE, Lizard HOS, etc!
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If you are going to stream it, consider limiting the event slots to 100 or lower, the last event we had with the casino was unplayable because the millions of players connecting were causing the game to freeze and crash on a minute basis.
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BONERMASTER wrote:If you are going to stream it, consider limiting the event slots to 100 or lower, the last event we had with the casino was unplayable because the millions of players connecting were causing the game to freeze and crash on a minute basis.
it's complicated but yes, we may need to do this. I am creating a backup whitelist for this just in case.

The overall hope is that me and the eventcoders (and some maintainers) working on this can make it so that we can have everyone on the server. Though there is the chance that won't be the case.
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Aeri wrote:Can I compete as a clown, this is important.
also probably not sorry, we did custom outfits during toolbox but it's a little bit of a pain.
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Post by Timonk » #604184

Suggestions: keep all countdowns ingame because livestream is differently progressed for everyone
joooks wrote:
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
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Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.


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Literally cannot wait.
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Post by confused rock » #604762

Lola's win was a bit completely bullshit and cringe BUTTT it was all luck the whole way through. Yeah Joey is literally the gamerest botany player of all time but c'mon, the last challenge was botany. That isn't fair regardless, TG isn't about botany. Lola did what they could, don't take this too seriously. Maybe I just think this since I was on the losing end of the family feud.

"kill them using a plant" is going for a fucking loophole. The intent of the challenge was win using botany. making a bat from wood is using botany.

uh this is actually really vague and confusing so ima just clarify

lola good

I mean I'm a manueliberal and it's a bit sad but this was all a shitshow. I don't mean that in a negative way, I mean that as in, don't take the event seriously, it's a hot mess. it was fun. not like there's a prize for winning or anything (I think). We've had events with prizes in the past and they were even less fair than this one.

also being the bear was nice. I went through that whole event worrying "oh shit I'm not in this one? I'm probably gonna be in the next one then, and that'll be botany, and then I'll lose." Instead I got the cargo one and the family feud one. I really wish the family feud went normally, even if my team lost anyways, because I was really excited for it. Thoughts on the cargo one, if you were just watching the stream you might not have seen the fucking crate goldmine red team found and how fucking hard all of us were working. The tie was super close so that means both teams were on the ball, or it was incredibly easy. It was pretty okay. Lastly on the first round I got stabbed into softcrit before I could do any drugs. Thought I was fucked but I managed to cling in softcrit for the rest of the round. Longer than both people who stabbed me. That felt good.
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Lola using the key on the second airlock and getting to skip the entire teleportation puzzle was really clutch.
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Lola did us all so fucking proud over at Terry.
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Post by Jonathan Gupta » #604779

bagil shoulda won, rigged as fuck.
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Post by Timonk » #604792

WHICH LOLA
joooks wrote:
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.


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Post by Timonk » #604793

YOO IT'S THE TERRY GANG LOLA
joooks wrote:
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.


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Post by bobbahbrown » #604795

thank you for everything citrus, we love you in everything you do and i personally hope the best for you in your future endeavors. this event was a blast and certainly one to remember fondly; your legacy will live on. i am proud to say i had a part in several of your events, however small, and i hope that we can continue to make future events just as great as you once did.

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Post by Ziiro » #604835

confused rock wrote: "kill them using a plant" is going for a fucking loophole. The intent of the challenge was win using botany. making a bat from wood is using botany.
I wish my brain had this many wrinkles, holy shit
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Post by Timonk » #604854

Have you checked
joooks wrote:
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.


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Post by Stickymayhem » #605666

really excited for this
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Post by Jonathan Gupta » #605681

Stickymayhem wrote:really excited for this
it passed you dumbass.
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Stickymayhem wrote:really excited for this
glad to hear that sticky
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Re: /tg/station Gameshow: The Robust and Robusted

Post by Fhaxaris » #605692

what a cool event. i wonder if athath has heard about it.
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Re: /tg/station Gameshow: The Robust and Robusted

Post by Timonk » #605695

probably hasnt. too busy exploiting bugs
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Re: /tg/station Gameshow: The Robust and Robusted

Post by CitrusGender » #608546

SORRY I FORGOT TO SAY IT BUT I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE ANNOUNCED THE WINNER OF THE GAME SHOW AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
CONGRATULATIONS TO LOLA VOLVER FOR WINNING THE TOURNAMENT!!!!!!!!
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Re: /tg/station Gameshow: The Robust and Robusted

Post by Jonathan Gupta » #608551

CitrusGender wrote:SORRY I FORGOT TO SAY IT BUT I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE ANNOUNCED THE WINNER OF THE GAME SHOW AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
CONGRATULATIONS TO LOLA VOLVER FOR WINNING THE TOURNAMENT!!!!!!!!
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Re: /tg/station Gameshow: The Robust and Robusted

Post by Timonk » #608567

Soo
When is the event?
joooks wrote:
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
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Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.


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Re: /tg/station Gameshow: The Robust and Robusted

Post by cacogen » #608573

this should be how gupta formats his posts
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Re: /tg/station Gameshow: The Robust and Robusted

Post by Stickymayhem » #608585

really excited for this
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Re: /tg/station Gameshow: The Robust and Robusted

Post by Mothblocks » #608594

Stickymayhem wrote:really excited for this
i just won
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Re: /tg/station Gameshow: The Robust and Robusted

Post by Fikou » #608596

the bobux and the bobuxed
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Re: /tg/station Gameshow: The Robust and Robusted

Post by Agux909 » #608598

the smitten and the unsmitten
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