HOST CHANGES: EVERYTHING IS FINE (updated)

QuartzCrystal · Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:25 pm

MAJOR EDIT:

MrStonedOne (our site and forum admin) is now the server host. The headmin triumvirate election is still going. The headmin triumvirate will be the ultimate authority. A new Patreon will be set up by MrStonedOne to continue the crowdfunding efforts.

See everyone? I said everything would be fine and it is.

Pomf123 · Post by **Pomf123** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:30 pm #81310

DON'T PANIC

Spoiler:

Septavius · Post by **Septavius** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:35 pm #81312

Hold me, someone. Hold me close.

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:38 pm #81313

Sigh. Someone pushed him over. Prattling children.

Sum Ting Wong · Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:38 pm

WE DIDN'T LISTEN

Jeb · Post by **Jeb** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:41 pm #81316

jeb 4 host 2015.

someone include me in epic conversation pls

QuartzCrystal · Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:45 pm

This really isn't as complicated as it seems guys. We have a few different options, just trying to work out who is the best fit in which positions.

I want to stress that the headmin triumvirate will still exist and be the main authority on everything.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:46 pm #81318

The highest praise anyone gets for doing the best job is "I'd think twice about murdering him in an alleyway for fun".

There is a serious problem with bias in this community, and it's against the people who actually put in the time to do the work.
I found myself in a situation where I was finally getting so angry and fed up with people that I was looking at the options available to me and the things people were accusing me of anyway

And decided I had better quit now before any of that starts to sound like an okay decision.

It's a shame because the majority of the playerbase are a bunch of happy-go-lucky game players who just want to play the fucking game in peace on the server. And we get along pretty great.
But there's this dried crust of smegma around the server that exist strictly to be assholes and stir shit up all the time. And for whatever fucking reason we just accept it like we somehow deserve all of this for pitching in. This is your thanks.

It's a shame because I think we tried harder than any other server to give people as close to exactly what they wanted here, and we got way more shit back than any other server for doing it.
I would strongly recommend everyone else pause for a second and reconsider what they're doing here and why. What they get back out of this dump for the amount of effort they put into it.
If you think anything of yourself beyond being completely worthless you wont be here much longer either.

Stickymayhem · Post by **Stickymayhem** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:51 pm #81321

Everyone involved in this needs to cut the shit immediately.

We don't need a massive drama blowout when we don't need it. You're better than that An0n3, don't ruin it now.

Incoming · Post by **Incoming** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:52 pm #81322

"people giving too much of a shit about video games"

Yes I knew that one already.

Anyway can we just have someone like... write a bot or something for keeping the server up to date and then do config file shit by community vote. As far as I can see beyond the financial aspect (which doesn't really need to be tied to a person in the traditional sense) those are the only "hard" requirements for a host in terms of keeping the server from falling all over itself.

QuartzCrystal · Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:56 pm

Incoming wrote:Anyway can we just have someone like... write a bot or something for keeping the server up to date and then do config file shit by community vote. As far as I can see beyond the financial aspect (which doesn't really need to be tied to a person in the traditional sense) those are the only "hard" requirements for a host in terms of keeping the server from falling all over itself.

This is kinda the direction we're going in right now. As I said, the triumvirate will be the ultimate authority.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:01 pm #81324

Public logs were something I was opposed to because I knew I could trust all of you. I kept an eye on you, you kept eyes on eachother. When anything ever happened, which was almost never, we caught it.
To say we need public logs is fucking shameful. It's a huge insult to our credibility and our trust that people could suggest that and folks would actually take it seriously.

Keep that in mind when the next guy is bartering away your honor and credibility to win brownie points with a community that is going to hate all of you forever anyway. When you're slogging through a bunch of bullshit FNR requests and admin complaints because you pushed a button or someone punched someone else remember that it's all fucking politics.

To have these same folks turn around and call me a tyrant because I trusted them and refused to sell them out and make their lives an even worse hell?

Are you shitting me?

Jeb · Post by **Jeb** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:03 pm #81325

Anon3, pls calm. Be the bigger, bearded man here.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:11 pm #81327

Is locking the thread an example of your "unbiased global moderation"?

whodaloo · Post by **whodaloo** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:13 pm #81328

nerd fight
nerd fight
nerd fight

QuartzCrystal · Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:13 pm

I locked my own the thread because you are shitposting in it. If you are going to quit, quit. There's no need to stick around and do this.

Stickymayhem · Post by **Stickymayhem** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:15 pm #81330

An0n3 you can have your obligatory rant on the way out but don't victimize people about private information.

Sum Ting Wong · Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:17 pm

Right, quick question.
>To have these same folks turn around and call me a tyrant because I trusted them and refused to sell them out and make their lives an even worse hell?
I remember SoS complaining about /tg/station drama spiraling into real life shit with death threats and so on. Is this what you guys have been dealing with or are we just talking about badminnery?

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:19 pm #81332

After all the garbage I've put up with from folks over the years I've been here it's only fair I get a moment to give some of it back.

Sum Ting Wong wrote:Right, quick question.
>To have these same folks turn around and call me a tyrant because I trusted them and refused to sell them out and make their lives an even worse hell?
I remember SoS complaining about /tg/station drama spiraling into real life shit with death threats and so on. Is this what you guys have been dealing with or are we just talking about badminnery?

I've had people track me down and send me real threats before. Yeah.

Jeb · Post by **Jeb** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:20 pm #81333

An0n3 wrote:Is locking the thread an example of your "unbiased global moderation"?

http://i.imgur.com/5mSZR8o.png - as quartz stated. You're a forum admin, you have access to the moderation information.

Regardless, let's all keep this civil and productive.

420weedscopes · Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:21 pm

so what is actually happening right now
an0n is quitting because personal reasons or something
do we have a host set up in the meantime
are there any more choices for hosts

Jeb · Post by **Jeb** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:22 pm #81335

An0n3 wrote:After all the garbage I've put up with from folks over the years I've been here it's only fair I get a moment to give some of it back.

If I may ask, if you truly feel this way - why did you accept the host position in the first place? Or was it just forced upon you by SoS when he left?

QuartzCrystal · Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:25 pm

420weedscopes wrote:so what is actually happening right now
an0n is quitting because personal reasons or something
do we have a host set up in the meantime
are there any more choices for hosts

We may not even end up having a host in the traditional sense we've had before. As I said in the OP, a lot of people aren't home from work, etc yet so we're waiting on them.

Everything will continue to run smoothly and the headmin election will still happen.

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:28 pm #81337

Oh boy more high school drama.
Go to bed, An0n3. Go to bed, everybody.
Everyone is way too mad right now.

Fuck it, i'm going to bed too.
Goodnight drama.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:31 pm #81338

Jeb wrote:
An0n3 wrote:After all the garbage I've put up with from folks over the years I've been here it's only fair I get a moment to give some of it back.
If I may ask, if you truly feel this way - why did you accept the host position in the first place? Or was it just forced upon you by SoS when he left?

Nobody else was here and someone had to do it fast. The server had two weeks to live and I was the only person in charge.
I needed to do as much as I could to get things funded, get people in chairs, and assure everyone that everything is going to be okay while this asshole chicken is running around telling everyone shit is fucked and shilling their server all over the place.

It was either become host or watch this place totally come undone while I waited for someone else to do it. Fuck that.

And now it wont. I can rant about how angry I am with confidence that the server will be fine without me because I set everything in motion. Someone else will start a crowd-funding inlet. People will donate to that because they know now that it works. Some of the folks I approved to run will get elected and they'll keep it together. Because if it weren't for Intigracy and I arguing about it with SoS ages ago we wouldn't have elections in the first place.

My only regret right now is not deadminning Tsaricide, NikNakFlak, and Sometinyprick for leaking logs to Singulo on my way out.

Pomf123 · Post by **Pomf123** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:51 pm #81340

An0n3 wrote: I needed to do as much as I could to get things funded, get people in chairs, and assure everyone that everything is going to be okay while this asshole chicken is running around telling everyone shit is fucked and shilling their server all over the place.

http://ss13.pomf.se/uploads/fukubitch.ogg

Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:53 pm

An0n3 wrote:
Jeb wrote:
An0n3 wrote:After all the garbage I've put up with from folks over the years I've been here it's only fair I get a moment to give some of it back.
If I may ask, if you truly feel this way - why did you accept the host position in the first place? Or was it just forced upon you by SoS when he left?
Nobody else was here and someone had to do it fast. The server had two weeks to live and I was the only person in charge.
I needed to do as much as I could to get things funded, get people in chairs, and assure everyone that everything is going to be okay while this asshole chicken is running around telling everyone shit is fucked and shilling their server all over the place.

It was either become host or watch this place totally come undone while I waited for someone else to do it. Fuck that.

And now it wont. I can rant about how angry I am with confidence that the server will be fine without me because I set everything in motion. Someone else will start a crowd-funding inlet. People will donate to that because they know now that it works. Some of the folks I approved to run will get elected and they'll keep it together. Because if it weren't for Intigracy and I arguing about it with SoS ages ago we wouldn't have elections in the first place.

My only regret right now is not deadminning Tsaricide, NikNakFlak, and Sometinyprick for leaking logs to Singulo on my way out.

but I never did that, leaked two lines told you about it that's it.

Alex Crimson · Post by **Alex Crimson** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:57 pm #81342

Who cares about some leaks? If you get to the point where your "trusted admins" feel the need to leak something to the public, then maybe the fault isnt with them.

Whatever. Lets see if the next host can last more than a month without getting so emotionally involved in such silly policies and conspiracy bullshit.

Sum Ting Wong · Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:03 pm

If we're at the point where admins are getting blasted with harassment outside of /tg/station then I can totally understand why somebody might want to keep IRC leaks on lockdown.

Alex Crimson · Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:05 pm

So far i have only seen them get "blasted" when they have done something wrong. Then you get the insults from people who are always going to insult someone. Such is the internet. If you cannot filter that stuff out, then you have no business being in a position where you can get a lot of flak and attention for many people.

QuartzCrystal · Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:07 pm

OP is now edited to reflect the new system.

Everyone rejoice, Quartz was telling the truth when he said things would be fine!

Alex Crimson · Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:10 pm

All hail our new overload \o/

LONG MAY HE REIGN!

QuartzCrystal · Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:10 pm

Alex Crimson wrote:All hail our new overload \o/

LONG MAY HE REIGN!

Not actually an overlord. We're in the process of voting for those.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:11 pm #81351

Alex Crimson wrote:Who cares about some leaks? If you get to the point where your "trusted admins" feel the need to leak something to the public, then maybe the fault isnt with them.

Whatever. Lets see if the next host can last more than a month without getting so emotionally involved in such silly policies and conspiracy bullshit.

If it's that easy why don't you try doing something?

You don't contribute to the rules or code and you don't contribute financially.
If you want to go down that road you should first admit that you are, yourself, worthless to the community.

Post by **lumipharon** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:18 pm #81354

Whelp. The host position is the ony one that actually needs a strongman in the job - no one else seems qualified or willing to do it.

RIP.

Ikarrus · Post by **Ikarrus** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:20 pm #81355

I think MSO would make a fine host.

Alex Crimson · Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:24 pm

An0n3 wrote:
Alex Crimson wrote:Who cares about some leaks? If you get to the point where your "trusted admins" feel the need to leak something to the public, then maybe the fault isnt with them.

Whatever. Lets see if the next host can last more than a month without getting so emotionally involved in such silly policies and conspiracy bullshit.
If it's that easy why don't you try doing something?

You don't contribute to the rules or code and you don't contribute financially.
If you want to go down that road you should first admit that you are, yourself, worthless to the community.

By all means keep making yourself look worse. Not even going to bother replying to you after this.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:45 pm #81361

Alex Crimson wrote:
An0n3 wrote:
Alex Crimson wrote:Who cares about some leaks? If you get to the point where your "trusted admins" feel the need to leak something to the public, then maybe the fault isnt with them.

Whatever. Lets see if the next host can last more than a month without getting so emotionally involved in such silly policies and conspiracy bullshit.
If it's that easy why don't you try doing something?

You don't contribute to the rules or code and you don't contribute financially.
If you want to go down that road you should first admit that you are, yourself, worthless to the community.
By all means keep making yourself look worse. Not even going to bother replying to you after this.

There's a difference between keeping your mouth shut because you're taking the high road and shutting the fuck up because you have nothing to say.

QuartzCrystal · Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:47 pm

OK now I am locking this thread for good, An0n3 has no site admin powers so he can't keep posting/unlocking it.

Timbrewolf · Post by **Timbrewolf** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:51 pm #81363

I still have admin powers. I've asked MSO to take them away. I removed myself from the in game admins and forum moderator groups but I can't self-terminate from administration.

The only one who died today was Alex Crimson

RIP.

QuartzCrystal · Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:15 pm

OK now it's actually over.

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Post by **NikNakFlak** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:51 pm #81375

I have never ever leaked logs to singulo. Everyone knows my stance against it and just throwing wild lies out with you leaving is disgusting. We didn't always get along but that doesn't mean you can be an asshole. I hope you stay gone an0n3.

Post by **MrStonedOne** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:11 am #81382

This thread is locked now, posting mean rants like that when you know the other person can't respond is poor taste niknak, please don't.

Post by **NikNakFlak** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:12 am #81384

Maybe he shouldn't be a buttblasted slanderer on his way out.