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Seriously I get 15 different goddamn answers to this everytime I ask in OOC.

Everytime I died to oldblob, I knew exactly what I had done wrong.

Last 4 deaths against newblob I could have 99% sworn I was 2+ tiles away or at least diagonal when I would get hit with the full force of a chem attack, either exploding me unconscious, filling me with morphine, or just plain burning me to death.

It got to the point that I assumed blobs had a way to hit people at range, but many people say that isn't the case, while a few others say that they have an ranged attack now.

Edit: AFTER GETTING REAL PHOTOGRAPHIC PROOF (http://i.imgur.com/SgwEjRC.png) THAT BLOBS CAN HIT AT FULL STRENGTH FROM RANGE, I MADE A FEEDBACK POST POLITELY EXPRESSING MY FRUSTRATION: https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3977

I ran into one last night that after a short delay would violently throw you across the room dealing massive damage to yourself and anyone in your way, That's kinda ranged.

But yeah, the blobbles that run out of the main mass seem to have a slight range, I figured it was intended behavior. So it didn't feel like fighting normal "mobs" like angry vending machines and such, who are easy to risk free kite and smack if you got full nutrition and health.

Sorium blobs are something of an extremely overpowered fringe case.

The spore cloud can just keep bouncing you around by throwing you deeper into the cloud, and the damage for hitting walls is buffed significantly.

From what I've been told it seems we've somehow turned Blob from a straightforward game mode into some kind of incomprehensible clusterfuck.

What was wrong with old blob anyway? It seems that in the pursuit to diversify blob we've detracted from the game mode.

Lucky me, I just got a screenshot of the bullshit in action.

Wearing a syndie space suit at full HP:

http://i.imgur.com/SgwEjRC.png

Was standing 2-3 tiles away, when the mini-blob hits me it just says "The blob hits you", yet I got two-shot by some stupid ranged fucking blob strikes that injected me with all the stupid fucking lethal chems.

The ghost represents where I was standing when the blob hit me.

Fuck that.

That's just oxyloss, you would have been fine

Oh no I got attacked by a blob twice better ghost then post rage threads.

hey guys robustin is mad about something again

Jeb wrote:Oh no I got attacked by a blob twice better ghost then post rage threads.

The point was that being dinked twice by the pansy miniblobs injected so much lethal toxin into him through a spacesuit that he died near-instantly. Stop being a fuckwit.

At range none the less

Yes.

Blobs don't have a ranged attack, but being in the general area of a smoke cloud will probably kill you, and possibly everyone nearby if it's sorium.

Blobs are not ranged in the conventional sense. You must be directly adjacent to them in the 4 cardinal directions for them to be able to hit you, meanwhile you can hit them diagonally.

Blob spores can move around past the blob itself and are capable of injecting the blob's particular reagent into you through your armor. When killed, they release a spore cloud that will ONLY affect you if you walk right in the middle of that 3x3 cloud. This will again inject more chems into you, so just avoid walking there.

Blobbernauts no longer inject chem, they're merely tanky and do brute damage.

The major exception to all of this is the sorium and dark matter blob. The very act of applying its reagent on someone via trying to expand onto a tile with someone there, having a spore hit someone, or have someone walk in the middle of a spore cloud can launch everyone nearby, slamming them into walls and dealing a lot of brute.

There's a nerf PR currently being proposed that will make it so bio protection will play a role with whether chems are applied to you or not. Labcoats should provide about a 50% random chance of whether you are injected with a chem, while things like full biosuits and space suits will fully protect you.

Oxygen blobs are indeed overpowered as shit, but this will make them effectively harmless if you have a biosuit or space suit, as they'll have to rely on their very weak general 5 damage per hit.

WJohnston wrote:Blobs are not ranged in the conventional sense. You must be directly adjacent to them in the 4 cardinal directions for them to be able to hit you, meanwhile you can hit them diagonally.

Blob spores can move around past the blob itself and are capable of injecting the blob's particular reagent into you through your armor. When killed, they release a spore cloud that will ONLY affect you if you walk right in the middle of that 3x3 cloud. This will again inject more chems into you, so just avoid walking there.

Blobbernauts no longer inject chem, they're merely tanky and do brute damage.

The major exception to all of this is the sorium and dark matter blob. The very act of applying its reagent on someone via trying to expand onto a tile with someone there, having a spore hit someone, or have someone walk in the middle of a spore cloud can launch everyone nearby, slamming them into walls and dealing a lot of brute.

There's a nerf PR currently being proposed that will make it so bio protection will play a role with whether chems are applied to you or not. Labcoats should provide about a 50% random chance of whether you are injected with a chem, while things like full biosuits and space suits will fully protect you.

Oxygen blobs are indeed overpowered as shit, but this will make them effectively harmless if you have a biosuit or space suit, as they'll have to rely on their very weak general 5 damage per hit.

Thank you, this kind of shit should've been made more available but the fact blob needs a fucking encyclopedia to tell you the 200 ways it can fuck you sideways is just proof of how stupid its gotten.

I mean its worth pointing out that the stupid fucking smoke lasts about as long as it takes the blob factory to respawn the miniblob, you get scenarios where people are forced to use a 1x1 maint corridor to reach the blob but there's fucking death smoke fucking everyone who goes through it and if you wait for the smoke to pass then another miniblob is on its way with another deathsmoke package in tow. Meanwhile everyone assumed internals will keep them safe and they have no idea what "THE BLOB STRIKES YOU.." means when the blob is still several tiles away.

is it capable for you to post only 1 thread with your complaints

or do you need to make 2 all caps title threads

regardless, ranged blobs attack is a bug

and we're removing spores carrying chems

iamgoofball wrote: and we're removing spores carrying chems

Not if the smoke fix makes it acceptable we're not.

Yeah, the main issue is not so much the bite of the spore as the chemical effects of the smoke it leaves behind. That's been the case since chemblob started.

Oldman Robustin wrote: Thank you, this kind of shit should've been made more available but the fact blob needs a fucking encyclopedia to tell you the 200 ways it can fuck you sideways is just proof of how stupid its gotten.

The fact you are so mad you can't power game is concerning.

the problem isn't that blob mobs burst into chemsmoke, it's that chemsmoke doesn't make any checks to see if a person would logically not be in contact with it in a harmful way (ie: In an airtight suit with internals)

MrStonedOne wrote:

Oldman Robustin wrote: Thank you, this kind of shit should've been made more available but the fact blob needs a fucking encyclopedia to tell you the 200 ways it can fuck you sideways is just proof of how stupid its gotten.

The fact you are so mad you can't power game is concerning.

The fact you think this is about powergaming is the most concerning thing I've seen in these threads all week.

You're the fucking host, you should have your fingers on the pulse of this community. If you think "Hey I'm getting killed over and over and there's literally nobody, even admins, who can explain why" is me expressing my frustration about powergayman or that I'm still an avid powergaymer, just shows that you're exercising SoS-tier irrationality here.

It's the logic I would expect from OOC shitters, not the goddamn site admin, "lol oldmans mad it must because he cant powergame because thats all Oldman does is powergame am I right? Oldman sure is a powergamer huh? Classic oldman, always powergaming".

Throw in a 5 minute ban while I'm playing HoS because I asked in adminhelp for someone to turn down traitor weighting while we get macrobombed 4 rounds in a row, with the message "Stop whining over such little things".

I dont think there was a single person playing this afternoon that didn't whine about the giant shitshow that macrobombs were causing, yet contacting the admins with a simple request without me being offensive or rude and you ban the HoS?


This is the kind of shit that makes me lose hope for the future, not because things are doom and gloom and the server is ded, but because things will never improve as long as people like you sit on top and have these ridiculously narrow and misguided views about the game and the community that you oversee.

But yea, I'm mad because I can't powergame. You got me. I'm always powergaming because I'm Oldman Robustin and that's what I do - and it was totally cool of the site admin./server host to respond to a series of legitimate complaints with such a well-thought and sophisticated response.

The point he's trying to make is that the way it damages you is not at all obvious without understanding how the smoke code mechanics work.

So we dropped the ball there.