Y do eswords do brute?

calzilla1 · Post by **calzilla1** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:02 pm #226754

Theyre energy swords. Is there a DEEP LORE reason?

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:03 pm #226756

Either a really good gameplay reason or a retarded legacy code reason that people will kick and scream about if you try to change it. I think it might be because burn damage cannot dismember?

Post by **Armhulen** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:06 pm #226760

Wyzack wrote:Either a really good gameplay reason or a retarded legacy code reason that people will kick and scream about if you try to change it. I think it might be because burn damage cannot dismember?

Half half?

D&B · Post by **D&B** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:15 pm #226770

Maybe it's just hard light?

Post by **Armhulen** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:28 pm #226780

D&B wrote:Maybe it's just hard light?

Maybe it's fake, like a club or something

Okand37 · Post by **Okand37** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:30 pm #226781

I think the main reason was that brute can do certain things that burn cannot, such as dismembering.

D&B · Post by **D&B** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:34 pm #226789

Armhulen wrote:
D&B wrote:Maybe it's just hard light?
Maybe it's fake, like a club or something

Maybe it's Maybelline

Post by **Shaps-cloud** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:35 pm #226791

Because as we all know, eswords are a very recent addition that came after the advent of dismemberment

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:37 pm #226796

It was originally because burn damage doesn't have a knockdown/stun chance- dismemberment and bleeding were added well after eswords.

Okand37 · Post by **Okand37** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:46 pm #226803

Drynwyn wrote:It was originally because burn damage doesn't have a knockdown/stun chance- dismemberment and bleeding were added well after eswords.

Thats it, I was trying to remember what it was and just threw dismemberment in them as I think that's a good reason as to why its still brute anyway.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:51 pm #226806

I am pretty sure this conversation was had once when dismemberment was first added which is confusing folks

ShadowDimentio · Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:43 pm

You can't KO/bleed/dismember with burn. I'd be hesitantly okay with changing eswords from brute to burn if the damage was bumped up from 30 to 40 on regular swords and duealeswords to 50.

Post by **Armhulen** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:53 pm #226836

ShadowDimentio wrote:You can't KO/bleed/dismember with burn. I'd be hesitantly okay with changing eswords from brute to burn if the damage was bumped up from 30 to 40 on regular swords and duealeswords to 50.

sounds fantastic, that dual attack power is insane but then again, burn damage

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:54 pm #226837

Brute is cutting/bashing/pulping/crushing damage. Burn is temperature/acid damage. If e-swords burned you to death then it would be burn but since they cut you to death, it's brute.

ShadowDimentio · Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:07 pm

TECHNICALITYYYYY

TechnoAlchemist · Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:22 pm

A happy medium would just having items like this inflict brute damage but without bleeding.

Post by **Armhulen** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:28 pm #226844

Anonmare wrote:Brute is cutting/bashing/pulping/crushing damage. Burn is temperature/acid damage. If e-swords burned you to death then it would be burn but since they cut you to death, it's brute.

did you just assume my damage type?

It should do enough brute to bleed or dismember, the rest is burn (plus a little more)

TheNightingale · Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:50 pm

Why not both?

MimicFaux · Post by **MimicFaux** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:20 pm #226868

Because doing both would make hit and run uses, or even prolonged fights favour the e-sword user because now you're trying to heal two types of damage between trading blows.

XDTM · Post by **XDTM** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:21 pm #226869

I think they're hard-light swords more than lightsabers, which would make them really sharp but not necessarily hot.

Alipheese · Post by **Alipheese** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:27 pm #226872

Super heated electromagnetically controlled electrons (which is a lightsaber or e sword and are possible in real life) so they are mostly brute with tiny bit of burn. As it cuts. Like a welder cuts with fire.

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:31 pm #226892

TechnoAlchemist wrote:A happy medium would just having items like this inflict brute damage but without bleeding.

Someone would have to massively overhaul bleeding code, at present it's handled by the mob based on current brute damage to each body part and presence or absence of bandages- the weapon that caused the injuries isn't tracked and bleeding isn't caused on hit, it's caused when life() ticks after receiving damage.

Screemonster · Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:51 am

Drynwyn wrote:
TechnoAlchemist wrote:A happy medium would just having items like this inflict brute damage but without bleeding.
Someone would have to massively overhaul bleeding code, at present it's handled by the mob based on current brute damage to each body part and presence or absence of bandages- the weapon that caused the injuries isn't tracked and bleeding isn't caused on hit, it's caused when life() ticks after receiving damage.

So like Baycode where all your wounds are stored in a list and tracked separately, along with all the other crazy shit they have like untreated wounds having a chance of getting infected if you hang around in a dirty room and so on?

Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:52 am

Okand37 wrote:I think the main reason was that brute can do certain things that burn cannot, such as dismembering.

burn can dismember, it ashes the limbs

anywho they're hardlight

Screemonster · Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:57 am

why not nanobullshit

MrEousTranger · Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:09 am

MimicFaux wrote:Because doing both would make hit and run uses, or even prolonged fights favour the e-sword user because now you're trying to heal two types of damage between trading blows.

Implying that you can survive an esword vs toolbox fight -_-

IcePacks · Post by **IcePacks** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:56 am #226945

this is the question of the century, a veritable inquisitive bullet squarely between the eyes of /tg/'s validity

why do they do brute though

MimicFaux · Post by **MimicFaux** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:58 am #226946

MrEousTranger wrote:
MimicFaux wrote:Because doing both would make hit and run uses, or even prolonged fights favour the e-sword user because now you're trying to heal two types of damage between trading blows.
Implying that you can survive an esword vs toolbox fight -_-

You just reminded me of a time I watched a traitor shoot their target, approach to finish the job, and then missed the character sprite by a pixel, putting their ebow in the toolbox that their target had dropped underneath them.

onleavedontatme · Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:59 am

when obi-wan cut that dudes arm off it bled everywhere

MrEousTranger · Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:21 am

Kor wrote:when obi-wan cut that dudes arm off it bled everywhere

No blood when mace dindu slashed off jango fetts head.
No blood when Napykins Skywalker cut off cunt ducoos head.

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:23 am #226949

MrEousTranger wrote:
Kor wrote:when obi-wan cut that dudes arm off it bled everywhere
No blood when mace dindu slashed off jango fetts head.
No blood when Napykins Skywalker cut off cunt ducoos head.

prequels don't count

MrEousTranger · Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:04 am

Drynwyn wrote:
MrEousTranger wrote:
Kor wrote:when obi-wan cut that dudes arm off it bled everywhere
No blood when mace dindu slashed off jango fetts head.
No blood when Napykins Skywalker cut off cunt ducoos head.
prequels don't count

No blood when Dark Raider Cut off Puke Skywalkers hand.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:20 am #226978

He used the Force to stop the bleeding, obviously.
Do you even lore?

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:41 am #226980

Why is it that Jedi can use the Force because it's a part of their religion, but when I use force, suddenly it's rape?

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:44 am #226982

Because your means of applying said force can be seen with the naked eye.

Oh, wait.

Post by **Armhulen** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:09 am #226988

Anonmare wrote:Why is it that Jedi can use the Force because it's a part of their religion, but when I use force, suddenly it's rape?

DELET THIS

MrEousTranger · Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:59 pm

Maybe they aren't made of concentrated light
maybe they are e swords as in ENERGY SWORDS

Meaning they are made of PLASMA (the one thing EVERYTHING IN SS13 IS MADE OF)
and maybe they are MEANT to look like lightsabers because the design guy liked Star Wars.
And the sound? Energy swords from halo make the exact same sound.

nsos · Post by **nsos** » Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:44 am #227300

the chuck e cheese staff didnt sing me "happy birthday" but maybe they'll sing "put the gun down"

Professor Hangar · Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:36 am

nsos wrote:the chuck e cheese staff didnt sing me "happy birthday" but maybe they'll sing "put the gun down"

They have an emergency button for that to bring the animatronics to life and attack you

MrEousTranger · Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:47 am

Professor Hangar wrote:
nsos wrote:the chuck e cheese staff didnt sing me "happy birthday" but maybe they'll sing "put the gun down"
They have an emergency button for that to bring the animatronics to life and attack you

Fnaf is a restricted area (that joke is NOT OK)

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:38 am #227418

MrEousTranger wrote:
Professor Hangar wrote:
nsos wrote:the chuck e cheese staff didnt sing me "happy birthday" but maybe they'll sing "put the gun down"
They have an emergency button for that to bring the animatronics to life and attack you
Fnaf is a restricted area (that joke is NOT OK)

Why hello there, Old Sport. Look at me, Old Sport, I'm gonna go strangle some toddlers!