Why is the lavaland prisoners ruin disabled? Can we enable?

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Why is the lavaland prisoners ruin disabled? Can we enable?

Post by Armhulen » #244140

I don't know why they were disabled, I didn't see any kind of conversation or anything about it. At all. It just stopped happening one day and I haven't seen it since. Can we re-enable it, or at least know why it's disabled?
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Post by onleavedontatme » #244142

Because people started routing a path as ghosts, going prisoner, then bumrushing and shooting the miners with their 1911s
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Re: Why is the lavaland prisoners ruin disabled? Can we enab

Post by Armhulen » #244145

holy fuck what
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Post by D&B » #244154

Too easy to abuse to gain command of the station with.
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Re: Why is the lavaland prisoners ruin disabled? Can we enab

Post by Armhulen » #244160

D&B wrote:Too easy to abuse to gain command of the station with.
that is if they survive to get to the station

but that's random generation for you.


to add on, I wish there was some way we could re-add them, maybe without the guns at least considering they're only there to kill miners.
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Post by Krusvik » #244164

that is if they survive to get to the station
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Because people started routing a path as ghosts, going prisoner, then bumrushing and shooting the miners with their 1911s
If they can route paths as ghosts to the miners they can route it back to the station as well. It was just too easy to abuse.
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Re: Why is the lavaland prisoners ruin disabled? Can we enab

Post by Screemonster » #244257

iirc it was getting to the point where there were serious calls to disable observing on lavaland or only allow orbiting from the dropdown list
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Re: Why is the lavaland prisoners ruin disabled? Can we enab

Post by Armhulen » #244320

yeah but wait, can't ashwalkers and every other role do what the prisoners were doing? If we removed the prisoners guns it would seem okay, but I don't know. It seems for the prisoners they can't come back to the crashed ship because it slowly runs out of air. Adding a fan and removing guns is a huge step in the right direction.
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Post by imblyings » #244322

it's the only lavaland role I know of with the explicit goal of getting on station to grief and kill

all other lavaland roles have content to do on lavaland, even if it's possible for them to go on station
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Re: Why is the lavaland prisoners ruin disabled? Can we enab

Post by Armhulen » #244324

if your crime is theft or incompetence going on a murderspree is extremely shitty

edit: ruin description, i'll grab the actual spawn flavortext they prisoners get in a second


This incredibly high security shuttle clearly didn't have 'avoiding lavafilled hellscapes' as a design priority. \ As such, it has crashed, waking the prisoners from their cryostasis, and setting them loose on the wastes. If they live long enough, that is.
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Post by Okand37 » #244325

While roles such as ashwalkers are able to kill, the tendril gives them somewhat of a reason to stay on lavaland.
Prisoners on the other hand, are handed a badge to kill and a gun to do so, along with some decent armour if you were one of the original prisoners.
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Post by onleavedontatme » #244326

if your crime is theft or incompetence going on a murderspree is extremely shitty
See yeah that was my original intent, was that Prisoners with non violent backgrounds wouldn't be straight up psycopaths and kill the miners trying to rescue them, but people assumed
are handed a badge to kill
And so I just disabled it rather than having the miners shot every round
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Re: Why is the lavaland prisoners ruin disabled? Can we enab

Post by Armhulen » #244328

well, that sucks. While I was signing up as a private force member at the hop office, the other prisoner must have been wordlessly gunning down the miner, taking his loot, and then murderboning.


seriously, fuck other people. Thanks for answering my question though, maybe one day we can revive the crashed shuttle idea.
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