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Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Post by Steelpoint » #253592

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The only justification this feature had for existing was the fact it existed as a option.

Space Station 13 is a game defined by the things you can do that no other game lets you. More so this is known for the little things.

I'm not claiming to be for or against this, but I fully understand why many people would be very against its removal as removing it may be seen as akin to violating one of the things that draws people to SS13, that extra level of complexity and interactivity.
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Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Post by captain sawrge » #253594

The option still exists in several different, less controversial formats though.
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Post by Ricotez » #253628

you can still bind people to a surgery table and hit them in the nuts with a hatchet and get banned for molestation, you just need to forcefeed them a pink slime potion at the end now, for fuck's sake
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Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Post by Dax Dupont » #253640

Well, the main reason it got brought up was the fact that Conan Exiles might be adding castration to it's feature list.
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Not gonna lie, gender reassignment surgery with hatches was one of the examples I used to explain "you can do almost everything in ss13" to people.

The sheer lunacy of being able to do that was one of the reasons I and some friends started to play long ago. Granted, I haven't played as much lately, and last times I did surgery I was getting too confused with the new options for things to really notice.
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Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Post by John_Oxford » #253652

The people who called for its removal should stop playing here, we don't want you.

Having a feature removed because "MY GOD IT INSINUATES YOU ARE TOUCHING MY GENTALS ERPPP REEEE" is terrible. If you aren't intelligent enough to see the logical fallacy in that then you most likely aren't old enough to be playing here to begin with.
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Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Post by oranges » #253657

you better believe if some rarely used feature attracts a tonne of admin enforcement and drama then it will be gone from the code like shit through a goose.
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Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Post by IcePacks » #253660

you guys sucked with sex changes anyway
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Post by Alipheese » #253665

Someone once forcibly gave me a gender re-signment. I thought it was hilarious.
"So and so has made a man out of you"
Force gender swap can happen in radstorms. Stop bitching about your sjw fears and get the fuck over it you thin skinned shits.

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Post by Mooseykins » #253668

So if I log in right now, target the groin and just punch people in the dick will i get banned for molestation?
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Post by confused rock » #253669

give us a poll vote thingy
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Post by Reece » #253670

Mooseykins wrote:So if I log in right now, target the groin and just punch people in the dick will i get banned for molestation?
I spent a round hunting people down, removing their eyes, stripping them naked and displaying them in glass boxes at escape and then RP'ing my excitement over it and didn't get bwoinked. So I doubt it will be an issue unless the person reports it.
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Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Post by Qbopper » #253672

Alipheese wrote:Force gender swap can happen in radstorms. Stop bitching about your sjw fears and get the fuck over it you thin skinned shits.
I think you haven't read anything in the thread if you think "sjw fears" caused the removal
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Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Post by captain sawrge » #253675

Hahahaha everyone in this thread is stupid except me
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Post by Supermichael777 » #253685

It was kinda rape-y
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Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Post by Luke Cox » #253688

People got a little too triggered
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Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Post by Mooseykins » #253693

Qbopper wrote:
Alipheese wrote:Force gender swap can happen in radstorms. Stop bitching about your sjw fears and get the fuck over it you thin skinned shits.
I think you haven't read anything in the thread if you think "sjw fears" caused the removal
I think you haven't read anything else i've said in this thread.
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Post by Wyzack » #253694

And apparently no one is reading my posts so i am going to use really small words.


Players caused shitfits about this, not admins


Feature caused more drama than fun


Feature is gone
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Post by DemonFiren » #253698

thus, remove players who can't man up and return feature
bam, game improved, playerbase improved
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Post by InsaneHyena » #253699

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Post by Wyzack » #253701

No you guys are right, even being adjacent to genital mutilation caused a bunch of drama but i am sure banning people for their opinions on the matter will go over smooth as glass
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DemonFiren wrote:thus, remove players who can't man up and return feature
bam, game improved, playerbase improved
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Post by Cobby » #253705

I believe you guys are proving why this feature will never make a return. Bravo!
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Post by PKPenguin321 » #253706

one time i got put to sleep with N2O during an appendix removal and woke up as a woman, iit was funny as fuck
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Post by confused rock » #253715

ExcessiveCobblestone wrote:I believe you guys are proving why this feature will never make a return. Bravo!
well I mean this drama is happening while gender reassignment ISN'T here
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Post by captain sawrge » #253720

confused rock wrote:
ExcessiveCobblestone wrote:I believe you guys are proving why this feature will never make a return. Bravo!
well I mean this drama is happening while gender reassignment ISN'T here
Yeah and it was way worse when it was here
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Post by BeeSting12 » #253721

if someone gets triggered other a pixel change on their sprite they should probably be removed, not the feature.
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Post by NikNakFlak » #253724

There was once a guy who was greytiding the brig when I was captian. He screamed that he was a rev and smashed the Windows and punched people. I subdued him by lasering him into crit on the spot and then I cut his dick off, healed him up and threw him in perma. He adminhelped and I got bwoinked. It turned out to be a real rev round, but he was never a rev


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Post by Thunder11 » #253726

It went because 99% of the use it saw was doctors using it to griff
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Post by Mooseykins » #253731

Thunder11 wrote:It went because 99% of the use it saw was doctors using it to griff
Please can someone tell me how the majority of our features can't be used to griff?
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Post by confused rock » #253736

seriously though, you can just mass produce gender reassignment potions in xenobio and then click everybody you see in the hallway with them
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confused rock wrote:seriously though, you can just mass produce gender reassignment potions in xenobio and then click everybody you see in the hallway with them
Yeah, and this shouldn't be a problem and i'd seriously consider slapping someone who tries to ahelp saying they're upset that their pronoun is incorrect.
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Post by cedarbridge » #253741

BeeSting12 wrote:if someone gets triggered other a pixel change on their sprite they should probably be removed, not the feature.
Fun fact: there isn't even a visible dick pixel. This is unironically getting upset about pronouns.
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cedarbridge wrote:
BeeSting12 wrote:if someone gets triggered other a pixel change on their sprite they should probably be removed, not the feature.
Fun fact: there isn't even a visible dick pixel. This is unironically getting upset about pronouns.
well there is the fact that you get breasts. but i agree 100%, this is dumb
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Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Post by Luke Cox » #253759

Shitposting aside, if sex change surgeries trigger you in a game like SS13, something is really fucking wrong with you
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Luke Cox wrote:Shitposting aside, if sex change surgeries trigger you in a game like SS13, something is really fucking wrong with you
how ironic
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Post by captain sawrge » #253795

It has literally nothing to do with gender politics/muh SJWS/triggering people and more to do with the fact that it was basically only ever used so ultra funny non-antags could go around kidnapping people and tying them up for 20 minutes to lop off their johnson. It only encouraged stupid annoying behavior like that and it was getting old having to explain to someone every three months why dragging people into maint wordlessly to swap their genitals was being a cunt and there really wasn't any actual other reason for it to exist.
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Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Post by captain sawrge » #253796

"Just ban the people that use it like that"
Alright but then if we're going to ban everyone that uses a feature why bother keeping it in the game
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Post by TheNightingale » #253809

I still maintain we should just have it like this...

1) Surgeon performs gender reassignment surgery on Patient.
2) Patient is given a menu - "Which pronouns do you want to use?" - to choose from [he, she or they].
3) If Patient is willingly undergoing the surgery (for disguise purposes, or if they're playing along with an antag) they'll probably pick a set they're not currently using.
4) If Patient is unwilling to be surgerised, they'll pick the set they're currently using, and nothing will change.
5) People are no longer uncomfortable, gender reassignment can no longer be used to griff, and it retains its use as an easily-accessible disguise tool.
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Post by Saegrimr » #253813

TheNightingale wrote:I still maintain we should just have it like this...

1) Surgeon performs gender reassignment surgery on Patient.
2) Patient is given a menu - "Which pronouns do you want to use?" - to choose from [he, she or they].
3) If Patient is willingly undergoing the surgery (for disguise purposes, or if they're playing along with an antag) they'll probably pick a set they're not currently using.
4) If Patient is unwilling to be surgerised, they'll pick the set they're currently using, and nothing will change.
5) People are no longer uncomfortable, gender reassignment can no longer be used to griff, and it retains its use as an easily-accessible disguise tool.
Is this ironic
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TheNightingale wrote:I still maintain we should just have it like this...

1) Surgeon performs gender reassignment surgery on Patient.
2) Patient is given a menu - "Which pronouns do you want to use?" - to choose from [he, she or they].
3) If Patient is willingly undergoing the surgery (for disguise purposes, or if they're playing along with an antag) they'll probably pick a set they're not currently using.
4) If Patient is unwilling to be surgerised, they'll pick the set they're currently using, and nothing will change.
5) People are no longer uncomfortable, gender reassignment can no longer be used to griff, and it retains its use as an easily-accessible disguise tool.
a lot of effort for something that will almost never be used
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Post by Luke Cox » #253817

captain sawrge wrote:"Just ban the people that use it like that"
Alright but then if we're going to ban everyone that uses a feature why bother keeping it in the game
Ban nobody and let people play how they want
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Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Post by confused rock » #253838

Nightingale fuck you i am stonekin i only use ste stom and stey pronouns why cant i pick them
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Post by cedarbridge » #253853

TheNightingale wrote:I still maintain we should just have it like this...

1) Surgeon performs gender reassignment surgery on Patient.
2) Patient is given a menu - "Which pronouns do you want to use?" - to choose from [he, she or they].
3) If Patient is willingly undergoing the surgery (for disguise purposes, or if they're playing along with an antag) they'll probably pick a set they're not currently using.
4) If Patient is unwilling to be surgerised, they'll pick the set they're currently using, and nothing will change.
5) People are no longer uncomfortable, gender reassignment can no longer be used to griff, and it retains its use as an easily-accessible disguise tool.
I mean we could also do this...

1) Antag McGrey pulls out a revolver/Toolbox/Bikehorn
2) Clicks on victim's sprite
3) Victim is given a menu "Do you want to die?"
4) If victim is willing, their model turns 90 degrees sideways.
5) People now no longer have to worry about unwanted deaths and hurt feelings and antags don't have to be considered bad guys anymore because nobody has to die that doesn't want to.

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Post by bandit » #253866

the "it's rarely used" argument is a bit weak when that applies to huge portions of the game's features, mostly due to the fact that the RP has deteriorated to the point where they aren't used if they aren't the top meta
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Post by Mooseykins » #253873

bandit wrote:the "it's rarely used" argument is a bit weak when that applies to huge portions of the game's features, mostly due to the fact that the RP has deteriorated to the point where they aren't used if they aren't the top meta
Not to mention earlier i specifically said that it's not the fact that it's rarely used, it's the fact it gives the player options of WHAT to do.
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Post by Luke Cox » #253875

"Useless" features are fine so long as they don't inhibit other features
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Post by Haevacht » #253880

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Re: Gender reassignment gone?

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Re: Gender reassignment gone?

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Please give me a dick organ / vagina organ and let us use organ manipulation so I can harvest the stations dicks and add them to my collection of functional cocks attached at random to my body parts including eyes and throat.
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Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Post by Saegrimr » #253922

Weepo wrote:Please give me a dick organ / vagina organ and let us use organ manipulation so I can harvest the stations dicks and add them to my collection of functional cocks attached at random to my body parts including eyes and throat.
The only way that's ever going to happen is if I can get some cable coil between two and make dong-chucks.
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Re: Gender reassignment gone?

Post by cedarbridge » #254001

Saegrimr wrote:
Weepo wrote:Please give me a dick organ / vagina organ and let us use organ manipulation so I can harvest the stations dicks and add them to my collection of functional cocks attached at random to my body parts including eyes and throat.
The only way that's ever going to happen is if I can get some cable coil between two and make dong-chucks.
Not until I'm able to attach it to people's heads to prevent wearing other headgear
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