RUNESCAPE SKILLING: Cooking LVLs?

iamgoofball · Post by **iamgoofball** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:06 am #258636

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/24327

Level up your skills to become a more efficient survivalist. Provides cross-round benefits to playing, allowing you to pick up where you left off.

Discuss.

Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:07 am

You need to elaborate

iamgoofball · Post by **iamgoofball** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:10 am #258640

fixed

Luke Cox · Post by **Luke Cox** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:13 am #258641

iamgoofball wrote:Cross-round progression

NO.

iamgoofball · Post by **iamgoofball** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:13 am #258643

Luke Cox wrote:
iamgoofball wrote:Cross-round progression
NO.

You don't even know what is progressing!

Luke Cox · Post by **Luke Cox** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:16 am #258645

Don't care. The only thing that should carry over between rounds is game knowledge and robustness

iamgoofball · Post by **iamgoofball** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:19 am #258647

Luke Cox wrote:Don't care. The only thing that should carry over between rounds is game knowledge and robustness

Why?

captain sawrge · Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:27 am

i dont get it but runescape rules so you have my upvote

Dr_bee · Post by **Dr_bee** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:36 am #258669

Make it so skill changes only save if you escape the round alive and on a shuttle or pod, it would give non-antags a reason to want to escape alive besides RP reasons and would give an in-universe reason for the cross round progression. We are all clone templates anyway right? have the clone template update at centcom.

Luke Cox · Post by **Luke Cox** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:06 am #258712

Dr_bee wrote:Make it so skill changes only save if you escape the round alive and on a shuttle or pod, it would give non-antags a reason to want to escape alive besides RP reasons and would give an in-universe reason for the cross round progression. We are all clone templates anyway right? have the clone template update at centcom.

It would give antags a reason to complete their objective, then hide in a disposal unit until the shuttle arrives

iamgoofball · Post by **iamgoofball** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:12 pm #258758

iamgoofball wrote:
Luke Cox wrote:Don't care. The only thing that should carry over between rounds is game knowledge and robustness
Why?

You didn't answer this.

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:18 pm #258760

We couldn't even have cosmetic beards, why this?

Kel · Post by **Kel** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:29 pm #258763

if we are porting runescape skills 1 to 1 how are we going to level fishing? or how about divination? dungeoneering? magic? invention? the list goes on

good feature btw

iamgoofball · Post by **iamgoofball** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:48 pm #258768

Saegrimr wrote:We couldn't even have cosmetic beards, why this?

It will be leet.

iamgoofball · Post by **iamgoofball** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:48 pm #258769

Kel wrote:if we are porting runescape skills 1 to 1 how are we going to level fishing? or how about divination? dungeoneering? magic? invention? the list goes on

good feature btw

It will all be explained in time.

MimicFaux · Post by **MimicFaux** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:57 pm #258773

What about in round skillsets?
Round start job determines starting skill stats, with boosted stats in skills related to your job.
Doing your job raises those stats. Doing someone else's job is harder without the boosted stats, but could be learned.

iamgoofball · Post by **iamgoofball** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:57 pm #258775

MimicFaux wrote:What about in round skillsets?
Round start job determines starting skill stats, with boosted stats in skills related to your job.
Doing your job raises those stats. Doing someone else's job is harder without the boosted stats, but could be learned.

I don't like that idea.

MimicFaux · Post by **MimicFaux** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:38 pm #258784

S'all good, just pitching ideas.

Post by **NikNakFlak** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:43 pm #258811

It's already closed

iamgoofball · Post by **iamgoofball** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:05 pm #258818

NikNakFlak wrote:It's already closed

It'll be reopened, it was opened for discussion

Post by **NikNakFlak** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:12 pm #258821

Where do your false promises stop

iamgoofball · Post by **iamgoofball** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:16 pm #258822

Did you not read Antur's comments?

Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:25 pm

NikNakFlak wrote:Where do your false promises stop

Goof"fake news"ball
Goof"false promises"ball
Goof"adds tajarans to the game, take #30"ball
Goof"rshoe was just a prank"ball

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:37 pm #259002

(this strikes me as the wrong forum considering we have a coding forum (though I think that's more for questions) and a coding feedback forum)

What do you think this adds to the game that will positively benefit the server as a whole?

If the skills add nothing of substance beyond "you can do more in the skill to level up", why bother adding bloat that servers no real purpose and will distract people from their established roles on the station?

If the skills do impact gameplay in a significant way, what makes you think it's a good idea to have people who have played more often be objectively superior to those that haven't (in a way that isn't the build up of knowledge and being able to execute in game actions better)?

Post by **oranges** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:38 pm #259006

goof always puts them in the wrong forum cause he's only in it for the (you)'s

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:45 pm #259009

beerobot wrote:goof always puts them in the wrong forum cause he's only in it for the (you)'s

aren't you a forum admin? I thought moving posts was your domain (though what the fuck do I know)

Post by **oranges** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:46 pm #259010

I only have authority in the code subforums and the election forums

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:50 pm #259015

beerobot wrote:I only have authority in the code subforums and the election forums

yeah I realized that after I hit send fuck

iamgoofball · Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:31 pm

nobody reads the coding forums

Qbopper wrote:(this strikes me as the wrong forum considering we have a coding forum (though I think that's more for questions) and a coding feedback forum)

What do you think this adds to the game that will positively benefit the server as a whole?

If the skills add nothing of substance beyond "you can do more in the skill to level up", why bother adding bloat that servers no real purpose and will distract people from their established roles on the station?

If the skills do impact gameplay in a significant way, what makes you think it's a good idea to have people who have played more often be objectively superior to those that haven't (in a way that isn't the build up of knowledge and being able to execute in game actions better)?

It's going to be located on Lavaland to allow players to have more things to do after the first 15 minute ore mine drop other than raid dungeons and kill megafauna.

It's intended to allow miners to feel less shitty when the round restarts because it lets them keep their levels between rounds.

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:33 pm #259042

Glad you gave an actual response, but still not in favour because I'm not a fan of the mining on lavaland anyways

It's a personal thing but I don't like how miners are basically playing their own (separate) game, and this would come close to making that a literal statement

(yes that's a bit of an exaggeration, hence the "personal thing" qualifier)

iamgoofball · Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:56 pm

I see where you're coming from, but the players seem to love what Lavaland has become. It went from Miner being a pretty unpopular job to taking Scientist's place as most rolled for job ever with people lining up to become miners after roundstart as many jobs.

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:36 am #259070

iamgoofball wrote:I see where you're coming from, but the players seem to love what Lavaland has become. It went from Miner being a pretty unpopular job to taking Scientist's place as most rolled for job ever with people lining up to become miners after roundstart as many jobs.

yeah I'm well aware it's not exactly a popular opinion, I just don't like the idea of adding more stuff that [however many job slots there are for miners] people are going to interact with per round

Kel · Post by **Kel** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:43 am #259100

>tfw all the edgelords are just gonna run around and autistically kill megafauna anyway for the untrimmed slayer cape

Fiz Bump · Post by **Fiz Bump** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:29 am #259110

Being back multi round beards and call it a compromise

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:45 am #259114

Kel wrote:>tfw all the edgelords are just gonna run around and autistically kill megafauna anyway for the untrimmed slayer cape

isn't it like super difficult to get untrimmed slayer capes because of how the xp ends up working out and you're levelling combat

iamgoofball · Post by **iamgoofball** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:51 am #259119

it even persists

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:55 am #259220

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:18 pm #259258

iamgoofball wrote:

it even persists

this is extra "never going to get merged" now

Kel · Post by **Kel** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:33 pm #259261

Qbopper wrote:
Kel wrote:>tfw all the edgelords are just gonna run around and autistically kill megafauna anyway for the untrimmed slayer cape
isn't it like super difficult to get untrimmed slayer capes because of how the xp ends up working out and you're levelling combat

it'll happen if you do extremely inefficient slayer (you'll get 99 in melee/ranged/magic or con first) but if you do high level slayer and dont exclusively focus your xp on a single stat. hell if you just set your xp to balanced whilst meleeing and do melee for the rest of your days you'll get 99 slayer first

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:09 pm #259266

>it uses the runescape font

How u do git bak 2 lumbige?

Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:39 am

April is over a month away, cool your jets.

dannnnnnnnnnnnnno · Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:44 pm

cooking lvls?

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:04 pm #260582

dannnnnnnnnnnnnno wrote:cooking lvls?