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Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:37 pm
by tedward1337

Bottom post of the previous page:

Wyzack wrote:Has a bunch of inbuilt functions, protects you from all enviromental biz, makes you stronger, makes you really hard to hurt. What you would expect, really. I always imagined it looking like the power armor from the first two fallout games
Interesting, too bad I cant carry ANYTHING :(

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:41 pm
by Wyzack
There is a specific power armor backpack thing if i recall correctly. Also put shoulder straps on all your guns

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:41 pm
by DemonFiren
Get a Power Armor Hauling Frame, that ups your carrying capacity by...100 or 120, I think.

On another note, holy FUCK are tank drones robust. Engaging me from beyond visual range, even on the test character I used I had no fucking chance.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:52 pm
by Wyzack
Not sure i have seen one before, do you know where they naturally spawn?

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:54 pm
by DemonFiren
I found one near the center of a massive city.

Stay away unless you're cloaking in or approaching in darkness. Or you have a sniper rifle. Those things are packing a whole armoury, and getting rocket-fragged from a distance is not fun.
At least they have the common courtesy of dropping a targetting laser on you first. "You hear Targetting" is your cue to GTFO.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:44 pm
by Wyzack
Just found a gun store that was LOADED with do it yourself ammo pressing equipment. Like so much that i might need to make more than one trip in my 350vol trunkspace bike. After all this i am going to go raid some labs or something with my newfound spoils

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:27 pm
by DemonFiren
Hit a basement on the outskirts of town.

One decayed zombie.
Approximately seven hundred fifty thousand giant black widows and webs all over.
OH FU-

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:34 pm
by Wyzack
Apply fire. It will not actually burn unless you stand down there in the fire, but it is the thought that counts. Webs are extremely flammable

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:55 pm
by tedward1337
Wyzack wrote:Apply fire. It will not actually burn unless you stand down there in the fire, but it is the thought that counts. Webs are extremely flammable
TIL

Also, mininukes wont explode unless your on the same z-level as them.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:05 pm
by Wyzack
Very good to know. Mininuke is such a shitty name for them, the explosive yield is no greater than many explosives we have today.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:12 pm
by DemonFiren
Yeah, but I've yet to see a hand grenade blow up an entire house.
Pretty pictures, please.

Ahem. Anyway. Just about anything stops when crossing z-levels. This makes underground shelters so damn safe.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:36 pm
by tedward1337
What exactly does this mean? Image

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:40 pm
by Wyzack
Safe mode is enabled. When it is on you cannot move with enemies onscreen. it is usually on when the game starts up

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:41 pm
by DemonFiren
Means Safe Mode is on.

The moment you spot a hostile the game pauses and you can either disengage Safe Mode or ignore that one enemy.
Useful for not running through the streets and noticing halfway through that a horde is currently gangbanging you.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:41 pm
by EndgamerAzari
I hate how the game's idea of "Spring" is "late February in Maine". One of my characters caught a cold within three turns of spawning. I an hero'd right then and there.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:37 pm
by tedward1337
EndgamerAzari wrote:I hate how the game's idea of "Spring" is "late February in Maine". One of my characters caught a cold within three turns of spawning. I an hero'd right then and there.
True beauty

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:57 pm
by Wyzack
Does new england really suck this much? It rains every fucking day

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:31 pm
by tedward1337
Wyzack wrote:Does new england really suck this much? It rains every fucking day
Quite possibly yes. How does bionics get powered? I have a bunch in me and installed correctly, but how do I power them?

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:38 pm
by DemonFiren
Give me your bionics list.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:46 pm
by tedward1337
This is what I got
Image

Edit:
Image

I spend a lot of time fixing cars as well.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:49 pm
by DemonFiren
Already found it.

You're lacking a power storage unit. Passive bionic, obviously stores the power inside your body.
Mk I adds 100 power per unit installed (you can get multiple), enough for one deployment of the nanoblade. Mk II adds 250.


Also, you're obviously turning into a furry.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:51 pm
by EndgamerAzari
It's kind of a pain in the ass (and not well advertised at all), but you need a power storage unit in addition to a power source and your to-be-powered bionics. Try butchering a few shocker zombies.

Edit: Fuck, beat me to it. Oh well. Bears repeating.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:54 pm
by DemonFiren
By the way, I strongly recommend getting the torsion ratchet and solar panel CBMs, they effectively mean free power so long as you move/are in sunlight.

Ethanol Burner only if you have Blood Filter. Metabolic Interchange only if you have loads of food.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:02 pm
by tedward1337
DemonFiren wrote:Already found it.

You're lacking a power storage unit. Passive bionic, obviously stores the power inside your body.
Mk I adds 100 power per unit installed (you can get multiple), enough for one deployment of the nanoblade. Mk II adds 250.


Also, you're obviously turning into a furry.
Ill look out for the power supply
and I dont have fur, yet.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:05 pm
by DemonFiren
Also, here's a suggestion.

Mod a shotgun with a mounted aux flamethrower.
Mod a crossbow with a rail-mounted crossbow.

Or be reasonable and slap the crossbow on the shotgun, the underslung grenade launcher on the crossbow, the underslung shotgun on the battle rifle and the flamethrower on the sniper, for OH SHIT panic buttons in any situation.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:49 pm
by EndgamerAzari
I have never actually managed to get a reliable vehicle, much less murder-pimp one out.

The million-dollar question is: can you put spikes on shopping carts?

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:51 pm
by DemonFiren
I should try it sometime.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:10 pm
by EndgamerAzari
Random bit of advice (it should seem obvious, but desperation sometimes makes people do crazy things): NEVER USE SPRAYCAN FLAMETHROWERS INDOORS. If the fire and smoke don't kill you, parts of burning buildings can actually collapse and crush you.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:17 pm
by srifenbyxp
I found light power armor once, power armor seems to be a melee thing when your fighting big guys in danger zones

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:19 pm
by DemonFiren
I've known about cave-ins for a while.
Explosives are not-so-glorious sometimes.

Unlike power armour.
Light power armour is glorious as it lets you move fast as fuck.
Heavy power armour is glorious because it lets you tank. Hard.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:32 pm
by Wyzack
If you are having trouble finding a vehicle that works i strongly reccomend building your own motorbike from scratch, as it is very easy to do. You need a wrench, jack, screwdriver, hacksaw, and about level 4ish mechanics. Find a car that is not a complete wreck in a safeish location and start taking it apart. Make sure you have removed at least 3/4 steel frames, then access the construction menu with * and start vehicle construction to place a single frame. place your 4 frames in a straight line. Add an engine, alternator, and fuel tank, place a seat and some controls and find a car battery that still has some charge to stick on there. I would also strongly recommend putting a trunk or some other storage area on the backmost tile. Add a wheel to each and and boom, you have a working vehicle. Your derelict car should have most of the pieces you need, and you can scavenge the others from other wrecks. The hardest piece to find is usually a battery with a tiny bit of charge left, but once you get the vehicle started for the first time the alternator will charge it. I would also recommend putting armor plating on each segment, you can usually find a wrecked military APC or truck to get some nice composite armor.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:01 am
by tedward1337
DemonFiren wrote:I've known about cave-ins for a while.
Explosives are not-so-glorious sometimes.

Unlike power armour.
Light power armour is glorious as it lets you move fast as fuck.
Heavy power armour is glorious because it lets you tank. Hard.
What about basic power armor? I have that.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:16 am
by WJohnston
I've kind of completely learned how to "beat" this game, or rather just how to never die.

Basically: You get parkour expert and either fleet footed or quick and abuse bushes and cars like nuts. A broken down wreck of a car is a godsend, as enemies advance so incredibly slowly on that that you can easily kill kite them, hit them without EVER having them hit you. If things get messy you can always just swerve around cars, run on stretches of fences, and eventually leave the city and get into a forest (which are disgustingly good for losing enemies with).

My most powerful character I've ever gotten was totally bulletproof, could make anything he hit explode (armored or not), and could kill swarms of thousands literally in a couple of turns (based chain lightning). He drove around in a huge super armored APC and had mutated himself fully with alpha mutagen so he's a god even without all his armor and weapons.

He could literally sit in a fire all damn day and not care.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:18 am
by DemonFiren
Alpha mutagen.

Why not Medical? That rapid healing.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:19 am
by WJohnston
Because you learn rather quickly that "rapid healing" is absolutely worthless in a fight. Instead I rely on absurd dodging skills, ridiculous bullet-proof indestructible armor, and nanobot healing bionics (my guy had some 40-50 bionics installed, at least).

Nanite healing heals 4-5 points of each limb per use in that one turn, you can spam this to stitch yourself back together almost instantly.

EDIT: Also seriously? Why go for pain resist and SLOW "rapid healing" when you could get 15 in every stat and be basically human 2.0?

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:47 am
by DemonFiren
Poison resistance, disease resistance, infection immunity, parasite immunity, barely any need to sleep. Ability to heal by walking around, coupled with using the bionic for emergency boosts, because it drains quite a bit of power.
Sounds more fun to me.

Of course it cannot possibly beat going full octopus.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:47 am
by Mastigos
I did some fiddling in the config and debug and made my character a god. 700 in all stats, fully kitted out in the best equipment in the game, every single possible positive mutation and skill and spent a little while running around punching things into mist. Then I got bored and found out that firing a rocket launcher point blank into 5000 Thriller zombies can kill even a god, blew my limbs to shit and bled out the last few hundred hp on head and torso within 2 rounds. That was a fun day. I plan on staging a fight between 100 Shia Lebeoufs and 100 Allosaurus in the next day or two.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:17 am
by WJohnston
DemonFiren wrote:Poison resistance, disease resistance, infection immunity, parasite immunity, barely any need to sleep. Ability to heal by walking around, coupled with using the bionic for emergency boosts, because it drains quite a bit of power.
Sounds more fun to me.

Of course it cannot possibly beat going full octopus.
Literally all curable by royal jelly. Alpha also barely needs any sleep, I'm telling you it's really damn good. Needing to eat slightly more often is a non-issue by then as food quite literally comes to you all damn day, and the forests ARE food.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:21 am
by nsos
got an H&K and tried to kill a zombie and a fucking dragonfly flew in the way rip

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:38 am
by Wyzack
Never go to swamps by the way. They are super dense with a million giant mutant bugs and other wildlife that will swarm and murder you in a heartbeat

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:03 am
by DemonFiren
Unless you're, like, a melee savant or packing an armoury.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:39 pm
by nsos
looted an expandable baton from a dead mall cop i'm running around with melee weapon training like i'm the guy from The Raid


but i got robbed at gunpoint anyway :x

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:09 pm
by Wyzack
>letting people rob you at gunpoint

I would sooner die. fuck those bandit fuckers

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:18 pm
by DemonFiren
Robbing at gunpoint?

Harmbaton.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:43 pm
by Skorvold
I managed to beat a shotgun wielding guy to death with a rock before he ever wised up and shot me. I mean, I still followed his directions of "don't move". By the time I finished killing him he had stripped off all my clothes.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:09 pm
by Wyzack
Pretty sure that is a bug. I once got robbed by the biggest faggot. not sure if it was a devjoke or soemthing, but this guy had a linux shirt, trenchcoat, fingerless gloves, a fedora, and was wielding a katana. Tried to rob me, i threw a spear into his chest, and a fight ensued. I have never come so close to death and still survived. The katana was nice loot, but i died to a zombie hulk an hour or so later

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:19 pm
by tedward1337
Wyzack wrote:Pretty sure that is a bug. I once got robbed by the biggest faggot. not sure if it was a devjoke or soemthing, but this guy had a linux shirt, trenchcoat, fingerless gloves, a fedora, and was wielding a katana. Tried to rob me, i threw a spear into his chest, and a fight ensued. I have never come so close to death and still survived. The katana was nice loot, but i died to a zombie hulk an hour or so later
Fucking

K E K

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:31 pm
by EndgamerAzari
I had a dumbfuck mug me a couple days ago. He had a Remington, so I had to let him get close in order to stand a chance. Lost my makeshift knife in his chest while he was taking my stuff, and lost my last bullet (he stole the rest) trying to cap his ass as he ran off. I followed him and stood back and watched as his ass got swarmed by zombies and ripped apart. Planned to go back for my stuff, but got et elsewhere.

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:51 pm
by tedward1337
I havent found any NPC's yet. Where do they show up typically?

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:55 pm
by Wyzack
All over the place, but they are disable by default due to being pretty buggy. If you have not seen any you have probably not enabled them

Re: cataclysm dark days ahead- You just cant win

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:01 pm
by tedward1337
Wyzack wrote:All over the place, but they are disable by default due to being pretty buggy. If you have not seen any you have probably not enabled them
Was it static spawns for NPC? I did turn it on.